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EVICT THE POS SQUATTERS
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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#21 - 2015-08-06 09:31:42 UTC
Nortion Adoulin wrote:
Most of these spots are held buy corporation's that are holding multiple POS's in popular systems.
For a small corps with little money just trying to get off the ground getting into a war is not a good idea as these guys will probably change there ownership to a second corp or remove one POS to allow you to garb a spot then come back and kill you POS and take that spot back.
I know how eve works " F**K with my business and your going to get smashed."

Hire Mercenaries. That's you answer to everything!
To small to defend yourself against larger corps Hire Mercenaries
Need a POS spot Hire Mercenaries
Some little **** is trying to take one of you many offline POS Hire Mercenaries and kill him repeatedly

I don't want or need to get into a WAR.
How many of these offline POS are held buy a corps owned by a larger faction or corp.

DON'T CARE JUST BLOW **** UP!

Guess what I don't have the time/skills or isk to go around getting into wars that I am going to lose.

I may not need to keep a POS there long before I move on to a new system so there no point in spending millions of isk to get a spot I may only need for a few months I never get my investment back.
I just want to use a POS in a place were no one else is using one. If they online there POS they can keep them but not just block everyone else with a inactive tower.



No, you cannot have a free ride. This is a cold, harsh game, don't expect NPCs, CCP or anyone else to do your dirty work for you, unless you're willing to pay them.

If you want a POS gone, take some kind of direct action. Don't just scream really loud on the forums and expect the entire game to change to suit your personal whims.
Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#22 - 2015-08-06 11:08:59 UTC
Based on some of the quoted statements it seems the mercs in highsec are doing a fine job in making a case for lowsec.

OP try lowsec, when you get your stuff dropped by dreads and supers you'll have something to legitimately complain about.
Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
#23 - 2015-08-06 11:09:19 UTC
Man, it's not as dangerous as you seem to think. Most offline towers are just offline because people either don't play any more or don't give a ****. Just do a tiny bit of research to see recent kb activity. If 2013, well pretty safe bet you can war dec and afk shoot that tower. Or just take one of the free moons around lool.

Years ago I spent a few weeks declaring war on any corp that appeared inactive and had an offline pos that had something worthwhile unanchoring or blowing up like corp hangars etc... The worst that happened, one tower got onlined when the war dec was made, meaning I wasted my isk for that one Lol

If you are hell bent on some particular moon for God knows what reason and it happens to be occupied by someone that's active, well then you, in your situation as you describe it, can forget about it.
Draahk Chimera
Supervillains
#24 - 2015-08-06 11:42:53 UTC
I'm not going to be an arse like some others here. However you seem to have missed a quite large upcoming development called "citadels". Those will replace both pos and outpost, can be dropped anywhere in system (no more moonlocking) and is coming "before the end of this year" (ergo in 3 months maximum).

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Nortion Adoulin
Not Listed
#25 - 2015-08-06 21:10:05 UTC
Thank you for that reply Draahk but looking at the lack of focus on the forums I doubt that the new citadels' are going to appear any time soon. Were probably looking at a year or more before they be replacing the POS.

As or asking for a free ride I am not asking for one. Buy the time any change is implemented my need for POS spots would be long over. What I am asking for is a system that removes an abandoned POS. Or a way to force those who squat on spots to be made to pay for there POS rather than just keeping it out of use altogether for free. Flagging them as free to destroy or if there owner has not logged in within the grace period having them removed and impounded is a better ideas. I don't want players who are out of the game to be penalised and lose assets over minor oversights.

One of the major problems with EvE is the attitude off " I am having that not because I need or can use it , I just don't want anyone else to have it"
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#26 - 2015-08-06 22:31:29 UTC
So you're not asking for a free ride, you're just asking for a free ride?

If you want something done about a POS, do it yourself. Why should the game do it for you if you're too lazy, cheap, or afraid to do it yourself?
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#27 - 2015-08-07 00:25:06 UTC
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One of the major problems with EvE is the attitude off " I am having that not because I need or can use it , I just don't want anyone else to have it"

Competitive Gaming 101; you don't stop taking or monopolizing resources just because you "have enough" or "you can't use it." You take (or deny others) as much as you can, as often as you can, for as long as you can. Otherwise, those people will compete against you and potentially become a threat. Or supply someone who is a threat.

And yes... everything in this game is designed to put you in competition with others. Even industry. ESPECIALLY industry (guess who actually "wins" whenever CODE ganks a miner or freighter? The people building the barges, freighters, and Catalysts. It is no wonder the biggest "doners" to CODE's cause are some of the biggest industrialists in the game!).

How did you Veterans start?
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#28 - 2015-08-07 00:30:10 UTC
afkalt wrote:
I'd be sympathetic to a request to not be required to grind the shield HP when the thing is offline, mind you.



this a fair meeting in the middle idea.


Helps all really. Even 0.0. As cleaning up the crap people left behind when you made them evac gets old fast. First you wait for the fuel to run out and even then....its still a chore to bring them down. Its been abandoned....lets speed up the process really.

Losing side might say we like it but lets be honest here. I was in one home that had people reclaim space many YEARS after they lost it. Its not like if evac'd (usually higher chance of failscade to follow regardless) you are getting a second wind to be back there in 2 weeks. Let the pos's go if you got your ass kicked basically. Or tear them down and move them in the evac if wanted that bad.
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#29 - 2015-08-07 02:13:15 UTC
Zan Shiro wrote:
afkalt wrote:
I'd be sympathetic to a request to not be required to grind the shield HP when the thing is offline, mind you.



this a fair meeting in the middle idea.

i have always found this attitude to be well odd maybe the best way to put it here without getting censored.
While I have some sympathy for the hassles of taking down POS in high sec (been there and done that) in low and nul this idea becomes outright hysterical. Given the speed with which the low sec corp my son is in can take down an ACTIVE large POS I see no reason for your complaints about doing so in nul. Besides the same applies to you, no easy button on getting them out of the way, not even removal of the shields for one that is offline.
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