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Badman Lasermouse
Run and Gun Mercenary Corps
#101 - 2015-08-13 05:40:42 UTC
Make it 30. We'll see how it goes in the morning.

-Badman
Belthazor4011
Battle BV Redux
#102 - 2015-08-13 11:02:52 UTC
Great work everyone.

Nora is there a plan to get off the island in the future? I'd love to mess around more but the 30 or so jumps each time is tedious Lol
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#103 - 2015-08-13 11:10:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Noragen Neirfallas
Belthazor4011 wrote:
Great work everyone.

Nora is there a plan to get off the island in the future? I'd love to mess around more but the 30 or so jumps each time is tedious Lol

Your telling me... I have to move a fleet 21 jumps to gal fw for mostly blue balls or 28 jumps to minne fw for fun fights. or you know 30 jumps to jita Lol. Aridia is a bad place Ugh. Plan is to end the wardecs then we can live wherever Pirate. In all seriousness though I doubt it. Wouldnt mind living on an island a little closer to some more casual PvP action

PS I can sell you some ships out here for jita +250 Blink

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Belthazor4011
Battle BV Redux
#104 - 2015-08-13 11:21:39 UTC
I'll pay an extra 250 ISK for shipping, wish Red Frog was that cheap Lol

Seems like if you move to a decent high sec spot you could win most wars. I doubt a corp that size that they'll ever be over.

But yea there are sexier islands, whats the .6 behind Seyllin called again? Ah yes Clorteler

Only 6j from a trade hub, much closer to Minnie FW and no current inhabitants you couldn't deal with.

I am sure there are others that are about as good but this one came to mind...
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#105 - 2015-08-13 11:32:03 UTC
Belthazor4011 wrote:
I'll pay an extra 250 ISK for shipping, wish Red Frog was that cheap Lol

Seems like if you move to a decent high sec spot you could win most wars. I doubt a corp that size that they'll ever be over.

But yea there are sexier islands, whats the .6 behind Seyllin called again? Ah yes Clorteler

Only 6j from a trade hub, much closer to Minnie FW and no current inhabitants you couldn't deal with.

I am sure there are others that are about as good but this one came to mind...

I'll take a look

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Quinn Hatfield
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#106 - 2015-08-16 10:16:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Quinn Hatfield
I will be joining the wrong side of the C&P CTA on Jonah's behalf.

PvP newbie looking for GFs. I'm a complete novice who is interested in collecting your corpses and should be treated as such.

Helpful critiques will be much appreciated,

I don't burn bridges, I merely steal a bolt a day.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#107 - 2015-08-16 10:17:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Quinn Hatfield wrote:
I will be joining the wrong side of the C&P CTA on Jonah's behalf.

PvP newbie looking for GFs. I'm a complete novice who is interested in collecting your corpses and should be treated as such.
Flat out denying that Quinn is my alt, for obvious reasons P

She will, however, be attempting to collect your corpses on my behalf.

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Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#108 - 2015-08-16 22:45:45 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Belthazor4011 wrote:
Great work everyone.

Nora is there a plan to get off the island in the future? I'd love to mess around more but the 30 or so jumps each time is tedious Lol

Your telling me... I have to move a fleet 21 jumps to gal fw for mostly blue balls or 28 jumps to minne fw for fun fights. or you know 30 jumps to jita Lol. Aridia is a bad place Ugh. Plan is to end the wardecs then we can live wherever Pirate. In all seriousness though I doubt it. Wouldnt mind living on an island a little closer to some more casual PvP action

PS I can sell you some ships out here for jita +250 Blink


Go to Tama. Or a nearby system.

Rapid Withdrawal lives one system over in Suj and are almost always active. We had over 7000 kills last month. In addition while I haven't been on in about two days, we had the contested level on Tama up over 50% and the Caldari were beginning to fight back. If that system is still being pushed, you'll probably see running battles between frigate and destroyer fleets throughout the day with bigger stuff being brought out occasionally.

Tama local is rarely below 40; if you want fights that is the place to go. And you get to teach your pet newbies how to avoid smartbombers!
Mobadder Thworst
Doomheim
#109 - 2015-08-17 01:14:03 UTC
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Belthazor4011 wrote:
Great work everyone.

Nora is there a plan to get off the island in the future? I'd love to mess around more but the 30 or so jumps each time is tedious Lol

Your telling me... I have to move a fleet 21 jumps to gal fw for mostly blue balls or 28 jumps to minne fw for fun fights. or you know 30 jumps to jita Lol. Aridia is a bad place Ugh. Plan is to end the wardecs then we can live wherever Pirate. In all seriousness though I doubt it. Wouldnt mind living on an island a little closer to some more casual PvP action

PS I can sell you some ships out here for jita +250 Blink


Go to Tama. Or a nearby system.

Rapid Withdrawal lives one system over in Suj and are almost always active. We had over 7000 kills last month. In addition while I haven't been on in about two days, we had the contested level on Tama up over 50% and the Caldari were beginning to fight back. If that system is still being pushed, you'll probably see running battles between frigate and destroyer fleets throughout the day with bigger stuff being brought out occasionally.

Tama local is rarely below 40; if you want fights that is the place to go. And you get to teach your pet newbies how to avoid smartbombers!


Tama is where I tried to learn.

I looked up the closest place to Jita where fights go wholesale.

I wouldn't recommend it for beginners. You are usually schooled en-mass and rarely get any useful critique.

I think I lost upwards of 40 ships trying to learn there and gained almost nothing in technique.

The good news is that it's fights all the time, frigates are normal, and you will be entertained.

I don't recommend it for novices unless you are in a local corp, as Demerious X recommended.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#110 - 2015-08-17 03:01:38 UTC
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Belthazor4011 wrote:
Great work everyone.

Nora is there a plan to get off the island in the future? I'd love to mess around more but the 30 or so jumps each time is tedious Lol

Your telling me... I have to move a fleet 21 jumps to gal fw for mostly blue balls or 28 jumps to minne fw for fun fights. or you know 30 jumps to jita Lol. Aridia is a bad place Ugh. Plan is to end the wardecs then we can live wherever Pirate. In all seriousness though I doubt it. Wouldnt mind living on an island a little closer to some more casual PvP action

PS I can sell you some ships out here for jita +250 Blink


Go to Tama. Or a nearby system.

Rapid Withdrawal lives one system over in Suj and are almost always active. We had over 7000 kills last month. In addition while I haven't been on in about two days, we had the contested level on Tama up over 50% and the Caldari were beginning to fight back. If that system is still being pushed, you'll probably see running battles between frigate and destroyer fleets throughout the day with bigger stuff being brought out occasionally.

Tama local is rarely below 40; if you want fights that is the place to go. And you get to teach your pet newbies how to avoid smartbombers!

Haven't tried tama yet although I have been advocating moving to a pocket that is only 12 jumps away from gal/cal facwar. It's still 25 jumps so it's a slog but i'll see if i can get a fleet up there tomorrow Big smile

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Mobadder Thworst
Doomheim
#111 - 2015-08-17 04:57:46 UTC
4 jumps from Jita and it's a FW hotspot. You could shack everyone up in Nourv. Nourv also has multiple l4 locator agents in system, so you could start teaching them to hunt (and drop the locators there yourself).

Downside is that you're in the backyard of every merc corp who fancies themselves big enough to hold Jita.

Likelihood of 300 noobs drawing wardecs galore... High.

I'm tempted to say that you could move them to Jita if you start drawing wardecs. A 300 noob camp would be enough to make a mess out of more than a few of the local merc groups... And refitting would be instant and a cinch.

It's a backwards strategy, but 300 noobs undocking as fast as you can kill them would be hell to fight.
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#112 - 2015-08-17 06:09:09 UTC
Mobadder Thworst wrote:
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Belthazor4011 wrote:
Great work everyone.

Nora is there a plan to get off the island in the future? I'd love to mess around more but the 30 or so jumps each time is tedious Lol

Your telling me... I have to move a fleet 21 jumps to gal fw for mostly blue balls or 28 jumps to minne fw for fun fights. or you know 30 jumps to jita Lol. Aridia is a bad place Ugh. Plan is to end the wardecs then we can live wherever Pirate. In all seriousness though I doubt it. Wouldnt mind living on an island a little closer to some more casual PvP action

PS I can sell you some ships out here for jita +250 Blink


Go to Tama. Or a nearby system.

Rapid Withdrawal lives one system over in Suj and are almost always active. We had over 7000 kills last month. In addition while I haven't been on in about two days, we had the contested level on Tama up over 50% and the Caldari were beginning to fight back. If that system is still being pushed, you'll probably see running battles between frigate and destroyer fleets throughout the day with bigger stuff being brought out occasionally.

Tama local is rarely below 40; if you want fights that is the place to go. And you get to teach your pet newbies how to avoid smartbombers!


Tama is where I tried to learn.

I looked up the closest place to Jita where fights go wholesale.

I wouldn't recommend it for beginners. You are usually schooled en-mass and rarely get any useful critique.

I think I lost upwards of 40 ships trying to learn there and gained almost nothing in technique.

The good news is that it's fights all the time, frigates are normal, and you will be entertained.

I don't recommend it for novices unless you are in a local corp, as Demerious X recommended.


Tama is not a good place for solo or small gang as a newish player, that is true. Most of the local gangs/corps and many solo-ers will have links at all times. Implants and expensive fits are also common.

But Noragen has numbers to work with and the experience to wield them effectively. I also suspect he can get hold of a booster alt to even the playing field in that respect. Also keep in mind that FW is really the only area of the game in which you can earn income anywhere near efficiently in a PvP fit ship, a cheap one at that. All you have to do is catch one of the local shiny addicts with your Atron blob and your killboard is set for the night. Bring an insta-locking Thrasher for further chuckles as you collect the all-too-common billion ISK pod.

Tama is horrible for solo but amazing if you have numbers and a competent FC. And many nearby systems can also be promising for PvP. If you get tired of fighting mercs, Black Rise is your best bet.
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#113 - 2015-08-17 06:11:36 UTC
Mobadder Thworst wrote:
4 jumps from Jita and it's a FW hotspot. You could shack everyone up in Nourv. Nourv also has multiple l4 locator agents in system, so you could start teaching them to hunt (and drop the locators there yourself).

Downside is that you're in the backyard of every merc corp who fancies themselves big enough to hold Jita.

Likelihood of 300 noobs drawing wardecs galore... High.

I'm tempted to say that you could move them to Jita if you start drawing wardecs. A 300 noob camp would be enough to make a mess out of more than a few of the local merc groups... And refitting would be instant and a cinch.

It's a backwards strategy, but 300 noobs undocking as fast as you can kill them would be hell to fight.



There are lots of nearby lowsec systems with decent markets where no "elite highsec pvp'er" dares to tread. Nisuwa, Nennamaila, Sujarento and Vlillilier are all good. Tama is frequently camped by an instalocker but docks/undock safes will manage that.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#114 - 2015-08-17 10:34:26 UTC
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Mobadder Thworst wrote:
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Belthazor4011 wrote:
Great work everyone.

Nora is there a plan to get off the island in the future? I'd love to mess around more but the 30 or so jumps each time is tedious Lol

Your telling me... I have to move a fleet 21 jumps to gal fw for mostly blue balls or 28 jumps to minne fw for fun fights. or you know 30 jumps to jita Lol. Aridia is a bad place Ugh. Plan is to end the wardecs then we can live wherever Pirate. In all seriousness though I doubt it. Wouldnt mind living on an island a little closer to some more casual PvP action

PS I can sell you some ships out here for jita +250 Blink


Go to Tama. Or a nearby system.

Rapid Withdrawal lives one system over in Suj and are almost always active. We had over 7000 kills last month. In addition while I haven't been on in about two days, we had the contested level on Tama up over 50% and the Caldari were beginning to fight back. If that system is still being pushed, you'll probably see running battles between frigate and destroyer fleets throughout the day with bigger stuff being brought out occasionally.

Tama local is rarely below 40; if you want fights that is the place to go. And you get to teach your pet newbies how to avoid smartbombers!


Tama is where I tried to learn.

I looked up the closest place to Jita where fights go wholesale.

I wouldn't recommend it for beginners. You are usually schooled en-mass and rarely get any useful critique.

I think I lost upwards of 40 ships trying to learn there and gained almost nothing in technique.

The good news is that it's fights all the time, frigates are normal, and you will be entertained.

I don't recommend it for novices unless you are in a local corp, as Demerious X recommended.


Tama is not a good place for solo or small gang as a newish player, that is true. Most of the local gangs/corps and many solo-ers will have links at all times. Implants and expensive fits are also common.

But Noragen has numbers to work with and the experience to wield them effectively. I also suspect he can get hold of a booster alt to even the playing field in that respect. Also keep in mind that FW is really the only area of the game in which you can earn income anywhere near efficiently in a PvP fit ship, a cheap one at that. All you have to do is catch one of the local shiny addicts with your Atron blob and your killboard is set for the night. Bring an insta-locking Thrasher for further chuckles as you collect the all-too-common billion ISK pod.

Tama is horrible for solo but amazing if you have numbers and a competent FC. And many nearby systems can also be promising for PvP. If you get tired of fighting mercs, Black Rise is your best bet.

Wait did you just butter me up?

Also what do you think of jotenen? It's in lonetrek near black rise and pure blind but also has low sec between it and the mainland.

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Belthazor4011
Battle BV Redux
#115 - 2015-08-17 11:19:02 UTC
Its about as big an island as you can get without going to Solitute. So it works in that regard, still a bit middle of nowhere if you still care about the 'main land'

If you don't then its a good spot.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#116 - 2015-08-17 21:07:39 UTC
Belthazor4011 wrote:
Its about as big an island as you can get without going to Solitute. So it works in that regard, still a bit middle of nowhere if you still care about the 'main land'

If you don't then its a good spot.

Been scoping it out lately it seems to be 10 jumps from jita, violent fw and goon null. Beats 21 jumps to dodi an 28 jumps for a non capitol fight. It also has more then 3 people living there Big smile. I'll see if I can convince our leaders of its merits. I did like the island near stacmon but of the 2 this one seems better and eaiser to move 500 people too

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Razsius Luine
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation
Holy Arumbian Empire
#117 - 2015-08-17 21:16:50 UTC
So the call goes out that one of our guys flying a deep space hauler is tackled by a garmur and his rattlesnake buddy. Being the little eve bear he is the garmur pilot decides he's going to hold him there so his "elite" low sec hot dropping bros can get in on the blingy killmail. Trouble is Trosken's already on his way to bail him out and I shortly follow along with a couple corpmates lagging behind even me (i'm usually pulling up the rear it feels like). I enter grid in my Tormentor and go full "heavy tackle" mode on the garmur pilot so he can't get away and in the back of my sleep deprived mind I can vaguely recall that with a rattlesnake on grid I have a not so small chance of losing my Tormentor naturally I completely ignore that "small" doubt. A single rapid heavy missile volley later i'm 1/3 into armor. Overheating my repper does little to stem the incoming tide of damage. A couple volleys later i'm in my pod which nearly didn't get out because some odd lag or some such didn't register that I actually wanted to warp off.

But our corpmate had gotten away in the ensuing chaos...

I can't think of a better use for that Tormentor then to white knight for one of your corpmates and though I could have easily saved said Tormentor by simply taking a page out of Trosken's book and using my extended drone range to harass instead of barrel in it was easily the "easiest" ship i've ever lost. More than worth the trade imo. I logged off with a big smile plastered to my face.

So watch out Aridians! We're like a mini PL you go after one of our guys and we'll hot drop a couple T1 frigates on your ass.
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#118 - 2015-08-18 02:53:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Demerius Xenocratus
I'm not familiar with that system. If it's up past Kehjari/Martoh in the Northern wastes of Black Rise, I don't think there's a whole lot up there. I think there was a calmil corp that lived in Hykanima, but they may have joined Exodus. That might work for your purposes though giving you some fairly empty lowsec to play with that's still in striking distance of the more interesting systems.

Jufvitte and Mesybier may be worth looking into also. Both are 0.5 systems not too far from Dodixie which border FW lowsec.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#119 - 2015-08-18 09:16:42 UTC
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
I'm not familiar with that system. If it's up past Kehjari/Martoh in the Northern wastes of Black Rise, I don't think there's a whole lot up there. I think there was a calmil corp that lived in Hykanima, but they may have joined Exodus. That might work for your purposes though giving you some fairly empty lowsec to play with that's still in striking distance of the more interesting systems.

Jufvitte and Mesybier may be worth looking into also. Both are 0.5 systems not too far from Dodixie which border FW lowsec.

While living so close to eve uni or OMS/syndicate appeals to me we get the issue of en mass wardeccers having easy access which works just fine for me but I would never be able to sell living on the 'mainland' of highsec atm. I checked out that other island but it's fairly empty itself and I kinda want other people there. These guys are beginning to believe that there aren't any other people in eve that aren't in our corp Lol

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Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#120 - 2015-08-18 09:44:39 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
I'm not familiar with that system. If it's up past Kehjari/Martoh in the Northern wastes of Black Rise, I don't think there's a whole lot up there. I think there was a calmil corp that lived in Hykanima, but they may have joined Exodus. That might work for your purposes though giving you some fairly empty lowsec to play with that's still in striking distance of the more interesting systems.

Jufvitte and Mesybier may be worth looking into also. Both are 0.5 systems not too far from Dodixie which border FW lowsec.

While living so close to eve uni or OMS/syndicate appeals to me we get the issue of en mass wardeccers having easy access which works just fine for me but I would never be able to sell living on the 'mainland' of highsec atm. I checked out that other island but it's fairly empty itself and I kinda want other people there. These guys are beginning to believe that there aren't any other people in eve that aren't in our corp Lol


Vlillilier would be my recommendation. Decent market, tons of stations so you can have one to yourself and not be camped too much, and it holds a pretty central location in the war zone. Wardeccers are allergic to systems that are orange on the map I'm told. I have a feeling if you move a 500 man corp there, people will keep the market stocked. It was a major Galmil hub but I'm not sure if any corps still live there since Bastard Cartel went pirate.