Crime & Punishment

To all the citizens, lurkers, Content Creators and ALT's of C&P

I need your help. There is a newbro corp called Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation with as many if not more then 300 brand new subs that is living on an island in Aridia. Most of you know about it. For those that don't a streamer has come to eve and brought a bunch of fresh meat Newbros with him. I have been taking them on fleets as much as possible into LS and against the wt's that plague them (which I fully endorse because there is no bad content). I need help though there are not enough fleets going out for the 150 online players most under 2 weeks old. Anybody with a spare ALT app to corp (they accept all apps) and start teaching them PvP, Ninjaing, Wardec survival (not corp rolling that **** is bad ) and any other content you can think of.

At this point in time they don't seem to have any rules so get to these newbies and show them eve from your persepctives. Not all will like it but these are the potential future baiters, flippers, wardeccers, dedicated mission runners and nullsec fleet commanders. Personally I am providing 1mil isk fit frigs for ls roams and wt hunting atm and I try to do at least a fleet a day. If 5 more people did this imagine how many could be retained. Oh you will not agree with 99.9% of the ceo and 2ic's ideas. Don't tell them they are terrible ideas that won't work just do your own thing and provide as much content as you can manage for any who are willing to come with you

PS I was so proud today the stary eyed newbies who a week before got their first taste of blood killed a blingy stratios today while I was in bed



A special shout out to all the wardeccers who have been bringing things for them to kill instead of crazy **** that they can't

I don't have an alt to insert, but next time i'm online I'll throw you some cash to get 100 or so fit t1 frigs.

Good luck. I truly hope you are wildly successful at showing them the most entertaining side of Eve ...freedom.



Fake edit: If they swing by minnie lowsec space I promise to shoot back.

+1, I need some alt fun.

I just contracted over 25 frigs for each race and sent some cash for fittings. Hopefully hek isnt too far away.

The leadership doesn't take to kindly to such things. I highly recommend if you make it out here you post it

Wow. If you pulled the stick out it might help a great deal with that raging infection.
These guys are trying to HELP.

You are doing what?

Edit: I also have an alt in said corporation, and look forward to getting some fleet action going on for some pew training of the nooblets. Showing them how to survive is not griefing them, it's the opposite.

Also, if even half of them stay it would be far beyond the statistical average for new player retention. Most of the time it's closer to 10% that stay. If by getting them involved that number improves then it's a win for everyone.

My reply was mainly aimed at the OP, as his alliance keeps the corp in question under constant dec for several known reasons, and now he is trying to get more members to "help".

As for I am doing? KHAOS offered to defend them from any dec for free until they can get a bit more established. They never took up on that offer, which I respect, as they want to fight their own fights.

You have alt there, good. They need all the help they can get, as long as you are not "part" of their corporation while your main corporation is farming them.

Also, no raging infection here, just harsh reality.

And that would still be much higher retention than mining.

Cry more about how people are engaging in real content.

You are a bad person and bad things will happen to you. In game, of course :)

Well, maybe.

But really, stop being an asshat. Yes, most won't stay. But not because of any reasons you listed... EVE simply isn't a game for easymode types. Many will quit.

But many will stay, too. Whatever content they are dealing with at the moment is much better than running missions or freakin mining. You do the best in EVE when you start seeing pve as a means to pvp.... Not simply to make ISK for the sake of it. I'm going to drop an alt in. Maybe FC a few frig roams. Maybe show them how to fit with lower SP. Maybe guide a few into a training plan to get into their first AF....

you said: "What's happening now is loads of new people coming to eve, trying out some fleet fights without any knowledge of the basic game mechanics, proper FCing and/or proper skills/fits and getting killed left and right as soon as they undock."

Op says hey guys lets help these new bros find their way. Whats hypocritical about shooting at them while offering them advise? The best way to learn is by doing...