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Is The Taranis Obsolete?
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Flick Narbotan
I.I.I
#1 - 2015-08-04 21:53:10 UTC
Pretty simple really, is there any role that the Taranis fills that isn't better filled by either the Comet or the Ares? Some frantic EFTing hasn't come up with any fit that outperforms alternate hulls.

Perhaps it's not just the Taranis, but all the combat interceptors that are underpowered.
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2015-08-04 22:15:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
If traveling through null sec it is pretty simple to see why they are far from obsolete.

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Flick Narbotan
I.I.I
#3 - 2015-08-04 22:19:01 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
If travel through null sec it is pretty simple to see why they are far from obsolete.


For combat, or just as dic-nullified taxis?
Paranoid Loyd
#4 - 2015-08-04 22:27:20 UTC
The word combat is highly subjective, but yes to both.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Flick Narbotan
I.I.I
#5 - 2015-08-04 22:41:54 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
The word combat is highly subjective, but yes to both.


Can you expand on that with fits and tactics at all? I'm genuinely eager to learn about how people are using these ships.
Paranoid Loyd
#6 - 2015-08-04 22:50:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Popular Tactic

Fits

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Ahed Sten
#7 - 2015-08-04 23:04:17 UTC
Taranis was my favorite wardeccing frig for quite a while. IIRC 315 heated dps with a dual prop. All you need for tank is a DCU. Grab on, don't let go and beat the **** out of that poor guy while you wait for backup. Or just kill him yourself cause you have great dps.

[Taranis]

Light Ion Blaster II
Light Ion Blaster II
Light Ion Blaster II

Warp Scram II
Afterburner II
MWD II

Magnetic Field Stab II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Damage Control II

Low Friction Nozzle Joints II
Burst Aerator II

Hobgoblin II
Flick Narbotan
I.I.I
#8 - 2015-08-04 23:06:08 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Popular Tactic

Fits



Is the Trollceptor thing specifically good with the Taranis hull, or do other Ceptors do the job as well or better?
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#9 - 2015-08-04 23:13:34 UTC
Nope, fantastic fun little ship to fly, fairly useful.

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Flick Narbotan
I.I.I
#10 - 2015-08-04 23:14:18 UTC
Ahed Sten wrote:
Taranis was my favorite wardeccing frig for quite a while. IIRC 315 heated dps with a dual prop. All you need for tank is a DCU. Grab on, don't let go and beat the **** out of that poor guy while you wait for backup. Or just kill him yourself cause you have great dps.

[Taranis]

Light Ion Blaster II
Light Ion Blaster II
Light Ion Blaster II

Warp Scram II
Afterburner II
MWD II

Magnetic Field Stab II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Damage Control II

Low Friction Nozzle Joints II
Burst Aerator II

Hobgoblin II


I'm afraid the Comet outperforms that fit in every way:

[Federation Navy Comet, K]
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

5MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Flick Narbotan
I.I.I
#11 - 2015-08-04 23:16:15 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Nope, fantastic fun little ship to fly, fairly useful.


For what role, though, and does it outperform other similar hulls in that role?
Paranoid Loyd
#12 - 2015-08-04 23:41:58 UTC
Flick Narbotan wrote:
I'm afraid the Comet outperforms that fit in every way
3 points of warp speed is very helpful if you are trying to intercept over multiple jumps. A much smaller sig bloom when using the MWD is also very helpful when you have little or no tank.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#13 - 2015-08-04 23:42:52 UTC
Flick Narbotan wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Nope, fantastic fun little ship to fly, fairly useful.


For what role, though, and does it outperform other similar hulls in that role?

Hint: it has drones Blink

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Ahed Sten
#14 - 2015-08-04 23:59:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Ahed Sten
Flick Narbotan wrote:
Ahed Sten wrote:
Taranis was my favorite wardeccing frig for quite a while. IIRC 315 heated dps with a dual prop. All you need for tank is a DCU. Grab on, don't let go and beat the **** out of that poor guy while you wait for backup. Or just kill him yourself cause you have great dps.

[Taranis]

Light Ion Blaster II
Light Ion Blaster II
Light Ion Blaster II

Warp Scram II
Afterburner II
MWD II

Magnetic Field Stab II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Damage Control II

Low Friction Nozzle Joints II
Burst Aerator II

Hobgoblin II


I'm afraid the Comet outperforms that fit in every way:

[Federation Navy Comet, K]
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

5MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I



Without taking the time to EFT it up and see where you're wrong...

1. No dual prop, which is absolutely necessary in the line of work that I said I used it for.
2. The Comet doesn't look like a one-eyed pirate so there's also that.
3. No drones.
Flick Narbotan
I.I.I
#15 - 2015-08-05 00:03:28 UTC
Ahed Sten wrote:
Flick Narbotan wrote:
Ahed Sten wrote:
Taranis was my favorite wardeccing frig for quite a while. IIRC 315 heated dps with a dual prop. All you need for tank is a DCU. Grab on, don't let go and beat the **** out of that poor guy while you wait for backup. Or just kill him yourself cause you have great dps.

[Taranis]

Light Ion Blaster II
Light Ion Blaster II
Light Ion Blaster II

Warp Scram II
Afterburner II
MWD II

Magnetic Field Stab II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Damage Control II

Low Friction Nozzle Joints II
Burst Aerator II

Hobgoblin II


I'm afraid the Comet outperforms that fit in every way:

[Federation Navy Comet, K]
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

5MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I



Without taking the time to EFT it up and see if you're wrong...

1. No dual prop, which is absolutely necessary in the line of work that I said I used it for.
2. The Comet doesn't look like a one-eyed pirate so there's also that.


Sorry, that should have been with an AB instead of a web. But it still fits, and it still outperforms the Taranis.
Ahed Sten
#16 - 2015-08-05 00:17:27 UTC
Flick Narbotan wrote:
Ahed Sten wrote:
Flick Narbotan wrote:
Ahed Sten wrote:
Taranis was my favorite wardeccing frig for quite a while. IIRC 315 heated dps with a dual prop. All you need for tank is a DCU. Grab on, don't let go and beat the **** out of that poor guy while you wait for backup. Or just kill him yourself cause you have great dps.

[Taranis]

Light Ion Blaster II
Light Ion Blaster II
Light Ion Blaster II

Warp Scram II
Afterburner II
MWD II

Magnetic Field Stab II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Damage Control II

Low Friction Nozzle Joints II
Burst Aerator II

Hobgoblin II


I'm afraid the Comet outperforms that fit in every way:

[Federation Navy Comet, K]
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

5MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I



Without taking the time to EFT it up and see if you're wrong...

1. No dual prop, which is absolutely necessary in the line of work that I said I used it for.
2. The Comet doesn't look like a one-eyed pirate so there's also that.


Sorry, that should have been with an AB instead of a web. But it still fits, and it still outperforms the Taranis.


Curious, will have to take a look.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#17 - 2015-08-05 01:15:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Akirei Scytale
Flick Narbotan wrote:
Ahed Sten wrote:
Taranis was my favorite wardeccing frig for quite a while. IIRC 315 heated dps with a dual prop. All you need for tank is a DCU. Grab on, don't let go and beat the **** out of that poor guy while you wait for backup. Or just kill him yourself cause you have great dps.

[Taranis]

Light Ion Blaster II
Light Ion Blaster II
Light Ion Blaster II

Warp Scram II
Afterburner II
MWD II

Magnetic Field Stab II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Damage Control II

Low Friction Nozzle Joints II
Burst Aerator II

Hobgoblin II


I'm afraid the Comet outperforms that fit in every way:

[Federation Navy Comet, K]
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

5MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I



His fit is both dual prop and has a fraction of the sig when MWDing. Yours does not outclass it in every way - I'd rather fly his ship because of its flexible nature and ability to GTFO. They're both squishy as hell though, I wouldn't fly either one over my usual fits.
Damnskippy
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2015-08-05 01:31:57 UTC
Because I prefer neutron blasters

[Taranis, dual prop]

Damage Control II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

1MN Afterburner II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
5MN Microwarpdrive II

Light Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
[Empty High slot]

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I


Warrior II x2
Void S x240

Dual prop has always just seemed the best way to run a taranis in null sec. The target selection is much larger with both prop mods as an option. And being an interceptor it has one of the best advantages. You can pretty much pick your fights.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#19 - 2015-08-05 08:19:51 UTC
Flick Narbotan wrote:
[Sorry, that should have been with an AB instead of a web. But it still fits, and it still outperforms the Taranis.


Said the Comet before she died to a sabre in null...

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pushdogg
relocation LLC.
#20 - 2015-08-05 08:39:13 UTC  |  Edited by: pushdogg
Doesn't the ranis get t2 resists?

I would put my ranis against a similar fit comet.

I think tonight I will fit up a ranis for some hijinks.

Edit: it has been a while since I pewed in an interceptor, but I would think a ranis in any fit would take a comet.
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