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Aunsou = new low sec Jita?
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
#21 - 2015-08-05 13:11:05 UTC
erg cz wrote:
Are you mad? There are combat ships out there! CODE is ganking ships, that can not fight back, not those, who can.

Oxide Ammar wrote:
They don't have the balls to go to lowsec or nullsec.


Confirming that we don't have multiple lowsec kills on zkillboard from the last 24 hours. Roll

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Black Panpher
CastleKickers
Rote Kapelle
#22 - 2015-08-05 13:20:13 UTC
I successfully seeded eszur low sec market for a half a year, eventually competition comes, becomes saturated, profits hit very little over high sec and makes it not worth the while.
erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#23 - 2015-08-06 08:41:47 UTC
admiral root wrote:
erg cz wrote:
Are you mad? There are combat ships out there! CODE is ganking ships, that can not fight back, not those, who can.

Oxide Ammar wrote:
They don't have the balls to go to lowsec or nullsec.


Confirming that we don't have multiple lowsec kills on zkillboard from the last 24 hours. Roll


According to kill board loyalanon is the only exception, that confirms the rule for the rest of your crew. 4 pages of kills in kill board = two low sec fights. Rest is high sec. S..t happens but it changes nothing on the fact, that 99 % of your kills is not in low sec.

Low sec piracy is not the reason why CODE. was created. It is not your style and not your job, IMHO.

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admiral root
Red Galaxy
#24 - 2015-08-06 09:27:41 UTC
erg cz wrote:
Low sec piracy is not the reason why CODE. was created. It is not your style and not your job, IMHO.


Compains we don't do lowsec.
Gets called out for being horribly wrong.
Tells us to stay out of lowsec because we don't belong there.

To steal the from the esteemed Alana Charen-Tang: General Discussion logic: it makes creationists cringe.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#25 - 2015-08-07 07:34:21 UTC
admiral root wrote:
erg cz wrote:
Low sec piracy is not the reason why CODE. was created. It is not your style and not your job, IMHO.


Compains we don't do lowsec.
Gets called out for being horribly wrong.
Tells us to stay out of lowsec because we don't belong there.

To steal the from the esteemed Alana Charen-Tang: General Discussion logic: it makes creationists cringe.


Well no one complains in this thread except yourself. Yet. And I hope we will not change this into just another CODE. thread. Initial note about CODE. was merely a kind of side joke after all. I am in no position to tell someone where he belongs so please refrain your personal drama from pushing this thread into some very different direction. Thank you.

Back to the topic. In year 2014 Barleguet VII - Moon 6 - Center for Advanced Studies School was offering over 7000 sell orders and over 2000 buy orders. Aunsou is still like half of this. Will new Brave trade hub become as rich as a former one? Or "eve trade hub are dying " tendency will put here its corrections?

May be this topic should be moved into "Market Discussions" section of the forum.

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Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2015-08-07 07:46:03 UTC
There's only so large that any market presence can get in low-sec. Say what you like about hi-sec - serious, significant market hubs are never going to be found anywhere other than the places that put the most barriers to shooting people on a whim.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
George Gouillot
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2015-08-07 12:17:01 UTC  |  Edited by: George Gouillot
erg cz wrote:
George Gouillot wrote:


- why does the absence of a cloning facility matter after recent changes?
- no one in FW would ever do trade/industry/mining on a serious scale on his main

Each community creates ist own hubs in fact. Brave in Aunsou, Eve Uni will most likely be Stacmon/Slays, GalMil in Vlill, not sure about CalMil (Ichoryia?). For Brave, Aunsou is a very good choice with easy access to HS, FW LS and NPC - Null, but once they move, it will be the same deserted non FW system that it was before simply because it delivers not enough content by itself.


Thank you for a quality input.

What recent changes you have in mind? I know only about jump clones change and if you get poded you still need a station with cloning facility to respaun.

To use an alt is a way, of cause. No doubt. But I believe not everyone want to bother with maintaining two or even three chars... Trade/industry/mining on a serios scale is a question of supply side. But there is also ppl, who are on demand side and I am not sure how big part of them do use alts. But I admit that I may be very very wrong here.

If Aunsou is a good choice for Brave is it also good choice for a number of other low security entities?


- you can set every station as home station, you will always respawn in your home station. The only remaining purpose of clining facility is installing jump clones
- the mindset of most players in FW is very much PvP-oriented (not talking about farmers). So they tend to optimize combat skills and are not very keen on "wasting" SP on others. And you want to have at least 1 alt account anyway (links/hauling) in FW.
- Aunsou might be a good choice for a community that has similiar goals/gameplay as Brave. But if you look at Barleguet I would rather expect that it will return to its former state once Brave is leaving
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