EVE General Discussion

They have added exploration content throughout the game, also increasing what you can get from highsec, including through wormholes to easy null exploration sites within, but things added in highsec with any player conflict in suspect status removed. Ghost sites don't add a way for players to clash outside of wardecs. They just blow you up if your ship isn't well tanked enough or if you weren't fast enough at fleeing in a smaller ship, no player conflicts.. Ways for people to put themselfs at risk for a peice of someone elses stuff shouldn't be removed. If that were the case why do tractor units cause suspect? That would be easymode too right? if I bump someone off the unit and kill it isn't that around the same level as exploration theft? If so why have one and not the other?

Because of how S-flagging works.
You do understand how S-flaggin works, right, and how the engagement parameters for the two parties are vastly different — i.e. that it very explicitly and inherently does not “work both ways”? You're just not asking for something that you've vaguely heard about and don't quite fully grasp the repercussions of?

Yes you can. There is literally nothing stopping you. It provides the kind of environment you're asking for (well, aside from it being skewed in your favour) and only you are keeping you from experiencing that environment for some reason. You don't need a wallet; you don't need alts; you don't need anything other than what you'd use in highsec.

Beyond that, the scenario you're asking for actually requires those things more than what the existing environments would ask for you in the same situation.


Nonsense. People love it when you do that — in fact, it's been shown to be a highly effective way to find people you'd want to play with, especially if you're after some excitement. The only instance where anyone would be upset is if you've gotten yourself mired in a particularly toxic corporation and you corp-“mates” are trying to ruin your fun. In that case you absolutely must do the exact opposite, sever immediately, and tell them to f themselves on the way out. You will never find good gameplay with such people.

Stop blaming mechanics and go have some, then, assuming that's what you actually want. But that's not really what you're asking for — you're asking for fights to happen entirely on your terms and with everything set up in your favour. That's not a particularly compelling reason to change anything.

The excitement is there if you just start looking at the terms of the competition you're engaging in, and actively compete in it with the tools at your disposal. Combat is not particularly necessary to create any of that.

Good news: both are almost completely irrelevant to what you want to achieve.

The “problem” you're having is a fabrication; it's something you've created for yourself, not something the game forces on you.

Ok. Then you need to stop asking for it and go read up on how the different criminal flags work, in particular the details of who can do what to whom and under what circumstances. Before you do, you don't understand your own request and simply cannot contribute to the conversation.

You also need to go read up on what PvP means. No, they have not removed PvP from highsec exploration — it is as much PvP as ever, and all you're showing is that you choose not to compete. Your decision to yield means that the competition has been settled in the site, so your second claim is instantly disproven even if it weren't obviously false to begin with.

Again: you compete by being faster, better, by picking different cans, or, if it comes to that, by blowing the other guy up. Choosing “none of the above” does not mean there is no competition; it means you choose to forfeit. You lose, by choice and by default.

What you want already exists. What you're asking for is tons of advantages for no good reason. What you're asking for also requires all the things you think are obstacles, whereas none of those requirements actually exist at the moment.

Trying to derail the topic and point it towards me by repeatedly throwing your opinion at "suspect flag ineptitude" means I am done with talking to you.

You claim that "Asians", "Russians", and ""drunk Brits" are ruining hi-sec exploration or your EVE options?

Perhaps the UN and not CCP should be asked to correct the problem.

Tippia is correct

There is my argument, suspect status on exploration theft for the In highsec another way to PVP without wars.

'They removed PVP from highsec exploration.'

They removed PvP from highsec data and relic sites, where the loot is basically worthless. They did not remove PvP from highsec combat sites, where the loot can be worth tens, even hundreds of millions. If you want PvP in your highsec exploration, run combat sites, and contest those you find other pilots in.

…but as mentioned, S-flags don't work that way so that can't actually happen. They are in every way wholly unsuited for creating wars. That's why I keep asking you to read up on them: because you are proposing stuff that works almost the exact opposite of how you want them to be, for reasons that have no basis in reality and only exist because you have misunderstood what the game has to offer.

Haha. Back in the days.. It was only a mechanic of exploration for a blink of the eye.

Asian?



High sec is for scrub explorers. Period.