Crime & Punishment

No "hey , quit the war , I copied the wrong name . But it's your fault! "?

I did warn him this would happen and I was told not to underestimate him

I told him not to underestimate me (which he obviously did)

COMPLETE DESTRUCTION

Quoted for accuracy. I was personally holding off FA from decing him for a good 2 months but once BAW and then Khaos legion started, it really just opened the flood gates.

Scandor and I warned Sengier plenty of times that his attitude was not appreciated. He continued to act like a mafia boss, expecting that isk was all that was needed to keep people in line and do his bidding. Apparently he forgot that this was a game, and that to inspire any real loyalty, you need to not be, as Vimsy put it so eloquently, a raging douche.

I have to admit, apart from the people I personally spoke to in his alliance that were displeased with him as a leader, I did wonder how many of them spoke up about it. This thread has been enlightening to say the least.

PS. Still cry tears re-watching that mexican skit
PPS. INTJ

I laughed so hard i nearly pissed myself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzvwCXSXW-o

This......
Jack and Coffin did more than most to try and defuse his ego and create a true Alliance leadership team.
by the time we got in and settled into the Alliance, the ego started becoming woefully apperant.

Seng literally made Eve "Not Fun". Talking trash in Eve is expecting. But the way he talks down to people? It would get him punched in the mouth IRL.

For reference we considered our inability to blow your stuff up at that range a doctrinal deficiency and have subsequently taken corrective action to prevent that happening again.

Not that you gus seemed to be able to actually hit from that far away. You were clearly doing something way wrong.

The hilarious Hitler video was created by one of our dudes, tainted demon. It actually had some typographical errors that needed to be fixed and to have a unicorn added, but whatevs.

hoo boy - here's a name i haven't seen in years... literally.

This is why I find a lot of Sengiers more recent comments disgusting. I've been known to get along with quite a few scumbags IG and IRL but this is one of those traits that some possess that drives me crazy. This dislikable trait is called entitlement.

In Eve and in real life looks can be deceiving so to talk down, think you are better, or to assume you have more money than someone is dumb and ignorant. Even at an early age youth are taught to respect others and to treat everyone as equals.

Now in this case, specifically in relation Eve, it is unfathomable to suggest that the notion never crossed Sengiers mind that some of the mercs on his payroll didn't need his money to survive.

In my opinion I think a logical person would have looked at the entities on contract and thought hmm;

"Does Forsaken Asylum REALLY need my money if they already have a Machariel fleet and can sustain 50+ wars a week?"

"Does Break-A-Wish REALLY need my money if they already have a Vindicator fleet, a Barghest fleet, and enough alts per member to cause tidi?"

"I guess PoH would be hard to read from the outside but to keep this going, do they REALLY need my money?"

Bottom line, being a mercenary in Eve is similar to running a business thus every right-minded leader wants their "business" capable and efficient enough to be ran by itself without the need of external cash injections. HOWEVER, this part makes me giddy and smile at Sengiers ignorance, I have never heard of an established Merc running out of money when it came time to Declare War.

TLDR: Mercs are running a business but don't think their personal wallets are empty.

Being butthurt makes it easier to excuse obvious lies to yourself, hmm? I was indeed in that fleet but I never ordered you to stay and fight. If I had done so and you had tried to overrule me, I would have removed you from alliance then and there. I'm not known for my kind and forgiving nature that I would allow disobedience during an op.

It's sad to see how eager you guys are to turn on us after we spend our money and risked the alliances welfare to defend YOUR POCOs. There was no benefit for me or my corp to do so. I did order the alliance to defend you because I thought you to be loyal member of my alliance and I defend those who are loyal as long as it takes.

Your pathetic attempts to save face by buttering up those who are fighting us and making up lies about me, sicken me.

As so many pointed out this is just a game, yet you need to rely on such underhanded actions and even here where you cannot really lose anything real, you don't have the courage to fight.

Also since this made me post here anyway, let me clarify a few things.

1. thanks for the publicity. I must have really left a big impression on all of you. The amount of love letters I get from you all is astounding, yet a bit creepy too. Keep it up though since some are quite entertaining. Not those from Yuller though, he seems to have a hard time forming simple sentences without adding vulgar insults to every half-sentence. Pretty boring. However the way he kept sending more like a good dog brings back the thrown stick to his owner is kinda cute though.

2.Do you even realise how ridiculous you all look? My alliance of mostly "carebears" made BAW,who claim to be the best highsec-mercs, retreat almost everytime we found them. Then the first POCOs from BAWs Poco holding corp went down and I guess that made them pressure POH to turn on us. Only after that happened the other mercs started growing balls and decced us. Yet even with that you barely have anything to show for it. Half our losses are from PIRAT and the rest are mainly miner etc from Colonial Cartel who refused to teach their new recruits proper behaviour during war. And now you call in every merc to dec us because you are apprently unable to keep us on low profile on your own.

3.You (BAW) are lucky that Jacks cowardice held me back. If he hadn't reduced morale amongst the alliance directors we would have fought you for real. Burn your clients, went after your POCOs. Proof your incompetence. Unless you have the overwhelming advantage you run after all. We only fought you to defend structures so you could dictate the flow of battle. Had he not stood in my way we would have gone on the offensive. You can run and hide, your assets in space and your clients cannot.

4. You (Zeus) seem to missunderstand something here. I never once thought you are reliant on our money. After all you told me how you made money. You're probably much richer than I am. That does not matter however. We had a contract with clear terms. We pay for certain military services and you broke said agreement, as did scandor.
You may claim I'm an ******* etc to justify your actions but we both know we had a pretty good business relationship before. Hell I could even post your last mail. Which I have a hard time understanding btw, as if I'd ever let your pointless betrayal slip and forgive you. You know me.Also you didn't just break our contract, you repeatedly gave me your word that you'd at least stay neutral. To be honest there are few people who I have less respect for than for people who break their promises.
I never understood why you bragged about your prior betrayal of another former client (GSE) btw. I cannot fathom what kind of person would be proud of repeated betrayal.

5. You (scandor) should be more carefull with what you post, that video, is not only something that I could get you banned for, it's also a criminal offense and I could file a lawsuit against you if I really cared.
That said, you are really the most pathetic so-called merc I have ever encountered. first time I hired you, you shat your pants when you saw the enemy fleet and all you were talking about was running away. I had to bring over Ju0zas to calm you down.
then this time, 1 or 2 days after you assured me that you would fight BAW if it came down to it, you failed to follow through. The amount of excuses you made was ridiculous. But whats even more amusing is how you reacted to my following mail.
Anyone with even the remotest bit of courage would have decced us then and there or assisted against BAW. And what did you do? Nothing, you did absolutely nothing. Apparently you are good at doing nothing. You didn't even have the courage to talk back to me. Sariah had to reply in your stead, who is btw apparently the only decent person in a leadership position in your alliance as far as I can tell. You're lucky to have such a loyal person who can look past your uselessness and cowardice. Not sure what she's seeing there though.
I guess you were too busy to decide who you were more afriad of, BAW or me.

You can ask pretty much any director, I knew you'd betray us if you ever saw an opportunity. I was already considering when to take care of you. Lucky for you POH decided throw away their honor and betrayed us before we could settle things with BAW and focus on you. Ofc you still took a bit of time, after all you probably had to make sure that Tora would hold your hand through the troubles ahead. In the end it require at least 4 merc groups to fight us ( a so-called carebear alliance), before you decced us.