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War on the Fatherland has begun, Praetorian Directorate under Siege

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#41 - 2015-08-03 17:18:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Vimsy Vortis
Starrakatt wrote:
Most established Mercs have blues or friends in other Mercs organizations, so it is not hard to start a convo and say: Hey dude, we're shitting all over x corp for e reason, recolting great tears and likely disband them because of w, y and z.

Want to get on da **** boat with us? Gonna be fun.


Then hilarious stuff happens.

In this case it's even worse because on top of that many groups that hated Sengier were holding off on doing anything because they didn't want to deal with the other mercs that would likely get involved if they declared war by themselves.

Once the whole convoluted mess started to unravel and it became apparent that the only people he'd have on his side were the very bottom of the barrel, off-timezone hub campers who don't care about hemorrhaging billions in T3s, everyone with a grudge or desire for giggles smelled blood in the water and piled in.
JackWatts
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#42 - 2015-08-03 17:25:39 UTC
Yuller wrote:
But guys he told me his alliance was just fine in a mail.Twisted



http://hellogiggles.hellogiggles.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/28/this-is-fine-meme-500x272c.jpg

I've gotten to use this picture way too often lately. Roll
CoffinBait
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#43 - 2015-08-03 20:10:46 UTC
Well , it's not like he has anymore members to lose so I guess that's fine indeed. I'm sure your contacts have already informed you of the ragemail he sent us for daring to leave the alliance (last) and to continue being friends with the guys that left .

Damn , and I actually admired the guy at one time for having guts .....
Zeus Maximo
Mentally Assured Destruction
#44 - 2015-08-03 22:41:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Zeus Maximo
Everyone is welcome to declare war on Sengier's alliance. I actually encourage it!

As we would say in Arkansas: "That boy done f**ked up"

Moving forward The Pursuit of Happiness does have an open slot available to be under our protection. I am adding a new qualification to the application process though. The acting CEO must be able to pass a Myers-Briggs personality test.

Note: For those who probably aren't wondering, I'm very comfortably an ENTJ!

"It is not possible either to trick or escape the mind of Zeus."

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#45 - 2015-08-04 02:19:55 UTC
Everything is fine. Nothing is ruined.
Adriel Malakai
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#46 - 2015-08-04 02:47:29 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Everything is fine. Nothing is ruined.


False. Our crusade is ending way too quickly. We barely had time to enjoy it!
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#47 - 2015-08-04 02:53:35 UTC
Something about a fat lady.
Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#48 - 2015-08-04 02:59:06 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Something about a fat lady.

She's screaming

MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!

McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
#49 - 2015-08-04 03:37:49 UTC
Zeus Maximo wrote:
Note: For those who probably aren't wondering, I'm very comfortably an ENTJ!
Even in internet spaceship video games you folks end up as CEOs.

There are all our dominion

Gate camps: "Its like the lowsec watercooler, just with explosions and boose" - Ralph King-Griffin

Razielkh
Intelligence Operation NetCorp
#50 - 2015-08-04 06:25:29 UTC
Adriel Malakai wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Everything is fine. Nothing is ruined.


False. Our crusade is ending way too quickly. We barely had time to enjoy it!


You can always start a new one, plenty of people like Sengier out there. XD
CoffinBait
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#51 - 2015-08-04 08:19:31 UTC
Saeger1737 wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Something about a fat lady.

She's screaming


*He's
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2015-08-04 08:48:20 UTC
Nhilas Adaar wrote:
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
The major reason the entire thing is so funny for us is that Praetorian has been so reliant on mercenaries to do their fighting that they can't do it themselves despite their large numbers, substantial funding and high SP characters. They take an enormous amount of time to form any kind of fleet, don't use sensible doctrines and run at the first sight of trouble.

For example their 30 man POCO defense fleet literally scattered when we landed 4 vindicators and 3 bhaalgorns on it.



I assume you had logi ready to drop and they knew it...otherwise that's pretty funny. Basilisk pilot was sleeping.

Lots of fun could be had against non-MJD equipped brawler battleships if your opponents were competent.


Lol

http://i.imgur.com/FMPKRw9.png



That's more Guardians than you typically see in a large AHAC fleet in Black Rise. Like really, you'd have to bring so much e-war to even have a chance.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#53 - 2015-08-04 09:05:03 UTC
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Nhilas Adaar wrote:
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
The major reason the entire thing is so funny for us is that Praetorian has been so reliant on mercenaries to do their fighting that they can't do it themselves despite their large numbers, substantial funding and high SP characters. They take an enormous amount of time to form any kind of fleet, don't use sensible doctrines and run at the first sight of trouble.

For example their 30 man POCO defense fleet literally scattered when we landed 4 vindicators and 3 bhaalgorns on it.



I assume you had logi ready to drop and they knew it...otherwise that's pretty funny. Basilisk pilot was sleeping.

Lots of fun could be had against non-MJD equipped brawler battleships if your opponents were competent.


Lol

http://i.imgur.com/FMPKRw9.png



That's more Guardians than you typically see in a large AHAC fleet in Black Rise. Like really, you'd have to bring so much e-war to even have a chance.

or some seriously coordinated neuts. but yeah BAW never claimed to be fair. quite the opposite really them publicly declare they are here to kill you.

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CoffinBait
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#54 - 2015-08-04 09:32:31 UTC
I've just seen the 14 logi clip and... Auch. Given that at the time a certain individual was shouting over me " don't align, we have sentries! We can take them, they are just 5 men with 10 alts! " ... Thankfully the other guys had the common sense to ignore their " leader " and follow the fc.

4 seconds more and we'd have lost the battleships for nothing.
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2015-08-04 09:43:56 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Nhilas Adaar wrote:
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
The major reason the entire thing is so funny for us is that Praetorian has been so reliant on mercenaries to do their fighting that they can't do it themselves despite their large numbers, substantial funding and high SP characters. They take an enormous amount of time to form any kind of fleet, don't use sensible doctrines and run at the first sight of trouble.

For example their 30 man POCO defense fleet literally scattered when we landed 4 vindicators and 3 bhaalgorns on it.



I assume you had logi ready to drop and they knew it...otherwise that's pretty funny. Basilisk pilot was sleeping.

Lots of fun could be had against non-MJD equipped brawler battleships if your opponents were competent.


Lol

http://i.imgur.com/FMPKRw9.png



That's more Guardians than you typically see in a large AHAC fleet in Black Rise. Like really, you'd have to bring so much e-war to even have a chance.

or some seriously coordinated neuts. but yeah BAW never claimed to be fair. quite the opposite really them publicly declare they are here to kill you.


But if they're wondering why they don't get fights...

The number of entities in highsec that could undock a comparable fleet and use it effectively can probably be counted on one hand.

You have to make the seals believe they have a chance.
CoffinBait
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#56 - 2015-08-04 09:56:33 UTC  |  Edited by: CoffinBait
I could bring the numbers. But not the composition or skilled players. Could I fc it? Maybe, did it years before. Could we do it effectively? Hard to say. That day I was forced to use logi pilots that had no combat experience - as it was seen during our failed trap.

Also, even if we had the numbers and compo.... BAW are experienced. Their primary was myself. And since jack was busy there was no backup fc. Would have been a blood bath.

Tbh I was expecting 5-7 combat ships with maybe 5 guardians. That we might have slaughtered since we had mjds on the rattles and massive slaved tanks on the bhaals. But... It's already history.
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#57 - 2015-08-04 10:27:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Tora Bushido
Zeus Maximo wrote:
The acting CEO must be able to pass a Myers-Briggs personality test.

Note: For those who probably aren't wondering, I'm very comfortably an ENTJ!
http://www.myersbriggs.org/my-mbti-personality-type/mbti-basics/

Did the test. Am an ISTJ type.

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

CoffinBait
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#58 - 2015-08-04 10:51:33 UTC
INTJ
Introvert(9%) iNtuitive(44%) Thinking(25%) Judging(22%)
You have slight preference of Introversion over Extraversion (9%)
You have moderate preference of Intuition over Sensing (44%)
You have moderate preference of Thinking over Feeling (25%)
You have slight preference of Judging over Perceiving (22%)
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#59 - 2015-08-04 11:47:50 UTC
Lonetrek Salvage and Scrap are directly responsible for our fielding so many guardians. Blame them.
Zarinda Cesaille
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2015-08-04 12:41:02 UTC
Well I got INTP

But that aside can you tell me just how often did we ask you guy collectively for a War deck on other corps.

I have to admit I did ask for one in anger over getting alpha ganked on the undock in Amar (I loved that lepoard ! ).
And in the early days we did have torbble with one corp but he hired greffers and gankers to come after us first so hes they guy who got you hired on retainers.