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Bring Level 5 Missions to Hi-Sec
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Daniela Doran
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-07-31 05:06:32 UTC
I propose to bring level 5 missions to high sec. Why? Well it will give Marauders something to do besides yawning through Level 4 missions. As it is hardly anyone does level 5's because it's simply not worth the risk to bring a capable ship to low sec so wouldn't it be better to just bring them to Hi-Sec with increase difficulty? I wouldn't mind if they increase the difficulty to the point that it would require 2 Marauders or 4 faction BSs to complete them. It would also give pilots a reason to fleet up to run missions.

Also to keep them from being ignored as they currently are as LP for the major Empires suck, I propose they increase the bounties and loot in these missions.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#2 - 2015-07-31 07:26:24 UTC
Just because you don't want to take your marauder to lowsec doesn't mean nobody runs L5 missions.

We already have high-difficulty PVE in hisec called Incursions.

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Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#3 - 2015-07-31 07:43:05 UTC
Loads of people run them in carriers. Here's a guide from reddit: www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3f3ed6/level_5_mission_guide/

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Daniela Doran
Doomheim
#4 - 2015-07-31 07:53:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniela Doran
Mara Rinn wrote:
Just because you don't want to take your marauder to lowsec doesn't mean nobody runs L5 missions.

We already have high-difficulty PVE in hisec called Incursions.


That require groups of 12. I'm talking about for 2 or 3 individuals. And not everyone have the tolerance to listen to drunkards babbling about personal issues on comms like it's some mid-life crisis hotline.
Janeway84
Insane's Asylum
#5 - 2015-07-31 12:41:30 UTC
Daniela Doran wrote:
Mara Rinn wrote:
Just because you don't want to take your marauder to lowsec doesn't mean nobody runs L5 missions.

We already have high-difficulty PVE in hisec called Incursions.


That require groups of 12. I'm talking about for 2 or 3 individuals. And not everyone have the tolerates to listen to drunkards babbling about personal issues on comms like it's some mid-life crisis hotline.


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Civ Kado
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2015-07-31 14:00:28 UTC
You're dumb.
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#7 - 2015-07-31 14:48:46 UTC
No. Just because you can't be bothered to do them in lowsec, does not mean they should be moved back to hisec. Too much easy isk in hisec as it is.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#8 - 2015-07-31 15:14:31 UTC
No

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Cupcake1980 Mernher
Disaster Area
DISASTER Delivery Service
#9 - 2015-07-31 17:04:57 UTC
I run Level 5s, solo, in a Rattlesnake. No groups of 12, no carriers, although I have 1 to do the ungated ones and you just have to be prepared to take the risk of flying a capable ship in low sec. Either that or as someone said, go collect isk farming incursions but don't complain that they need took to high sec because you're scared to take a ship.
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#10 - 2015-07-31 17:50:32 UTC
As someone who used to run Level 5 missions in High Sec, back when it was possible, I have to tell you that it is no more exciting than running Level 4 missions in High Sec.

The excitement comes from being hunted by your fellow man, not from NPC's.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#11 - 2015-07-31 19:22:07 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
No


I'd say that sums it up nicely.
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2015-07-31 20:54:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrogh Habalu
Cupcake1980 Mernher wrote:
I run Level 5s, solo, in a Rattlesnake. No groups of 12, no carriers, although I have 1 to do the ungated ones and you just have to be prepared to take the risk of flying a capable ship in low sec. Either that or as someone said, go collect isk farming incursions but don't complain that they need took to high sec because you're scared to take a ship.

Does that nets significantly more than farming L4s solo efficiently though?

Also note that higher security status means significantly less SP/ISK.

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Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#13 - 2015-07-31 21:16:48 UTC
Cupcake1980 Mernher wrote:
I run Level 5s, solo, in a Rattlesnake. No groups of 12, no carriers, although I have 1 to do the ungated ones and you just have to be prepared to take the risk of flying a capable ship in low sec. Either that or as someone said, go collect isk farming incursions but don't complain that they need took to high sec because you're scared to take a ship.

How much is your Rattlesnake worth? Carriers aren't that expensive.

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#14 - 2015-07-31 22:01:18 UTC
Daniela Doran wrote:
That require groups of 12. I'm talking about for 2 or 3 individuals. And not everyone have the tolerance to listen to drunkards babbling about personal issues on comms like it's some mid-life crisis hotline.


If you have 2 or 3 friends, go join an incursion fleet. If you don't have 2 or 3 friends, join an incursion fleet.

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Daniela Doran
Doomheim
#15 - 2015-08-01 00:37:13 UTC
FT Diomedes wrote:
As someone who used to run Level 5 missions in High Sec, back when it was possible, I have to tell you that it is no more exciting than running Level 4 missions in High Sec.

The excitement comes from being hunted by your fellow man, not from NPC's.


Hmm, I see. So tell me, are level 5's worth the risk of using a Paladin?
Daniela Doran
Doomheim
#16 - 2015-08-01 00:47:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniela Doran
Cupcake1980 Mernher wrote:
I run Level 5s, solo, in a Rattlesnake. No groups of 12, no carriers, although I have 1 to do the ungated ones and you just have to be prepared to take the risk of flying a capable ship in low sec. Either that or as someone said, go collect isk farming incursions but don't complain that they need took to high sec because you're scared to take a ship.



You can solo Level 5's in a Rattler? Interesting. May I ask you which empire or faction you run level 5's for? Is the isk per hour + risk worth it compared to running lev 4's for SOE? If you don't wish to answer this question in the forums then could you please send me some info via in-game email, I'd really like to know.
Daniela Doran
Doomheim
#17 - 2015-08-01 00:56:51 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
No. Just because you can't be bothered to do them in lowsec, does not mean they should be moved back to hisec. Too much easy isk in hisec as it is.


If you're referring to incursions please refer to one of my previous post in this thread. That only leaves SOE missions which if it wasn't for, I doubt I'd still be playing this game. So what other High-Sec isk sink you're referring too, hmm?
Daniela Doran
Doomheim
#18 - 2015-08-01 01:08:49 UTC
Barrogh Habalu wrote:
Cupcake1980 Mernher wrote:
I run Level 5s, solo, in a Rattlesnake. No groups of 12, no carriers, although I have 1 to do the ungated ones and you just have to be prepared to take the risk of flying a capable ship in low sec. Either that or as someone said, go collect isk farming incursions but don't complain that they need took to high sec because you're scared to take a ship.

Does that nets significantly more than farming L4s solo efficiently though?

Also note that higher security status means significantly less SP/ISK.


Unless the LP comes from SOE, it's basically worthless to me since I don't have any manufacturing alts to use those BPCs. And the LP given from missions in Lanngisi compared to a low sec system is barely noticeable and not worth the risk.
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#19 - 2015-08-01 01:31:09 UTC
Nope. Plenty of reasons, many of them stated already. Have a nice day.

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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#20 - 2015-08-01 01:50:40 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
No

Essentially I agree with this but I do have an option.
Move some level 5's to high sec but reduce the payouts to the same as the upper end lvl 4's. If the OP just wants the challenge of the more difficult missions he can have it without the easy ISK portion that gets people so worked up.

Other thoughts for the OP.
If lvl 4 are not challenging enough in your marauder then how about trying something smaller.
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