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what t3d to use against a confessor

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Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2015-07-30 12:53:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Bastion Arzi
Hi, i like to duel.

i have found some like minded people.

but i got my arse handed to me by a confessor when in my sivpul and hecate.

in oth cases my opponent used an ab whereas i was fit with mwd.

i guess ab';s are optimal for 1v1 station dueling.

anyway which t3d should i use to kill this confessor an ab hecate? another confessor?

said confessor uses tech 2 small focused pulses and a web. so im guessing neuting would be my i win button. but his range control is so excellent he gets out of small neut rnage quickly.

any suggestions/fits/ideas much appreciated.
Switch Savage
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-07-30 13:11:08 UTC
What was your Svipul fit good sir. Also do you have an idea how the confessor you will be facing is fit.
Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2015-07-30 13:14:37 UTC
im at work so i can copy paste the fit from osmium cos they block it.

the svipul was dual tanked, one medium anciliary repper and one anciliary armor repper. two neuts, 2 gyro, dcu mwd , scram, web & 200mm ac's

i think the confessor is running ab,scram and web - does not have a cap booster and iirc does have at leas one nos. and have small focused pulses. thats as much as i can tell u
Switch Savage
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-07-30 13:26:04 UTC
Well a Svipul is marginally faster than the confessor so if you use the same prop mod and go two neuts with cap injection and active armor tank you will be able to neut him dry and have your way with him. Was he buffer or active tanked?
Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2015-07-30 13:34:17 UTC
not sure i even damaged himn enough to find out. he just scram kites me using ab and scorch so i can barley hit
Doctor Knuckles
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2015-07-30 13:38:29 UTC
[Svipul, New Setup 1]
Small Armor Repairer II
Small Armor Repairer II
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

1MN Afterburner II
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Small Anti-Thermic Pump II

this should work, if he's 1mn ab, if he's 10mn, youll need 10 mn yourself
Switch Savage
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-07-30 13:43:02 UTC
Well Barrage would hit him fine but looks like you did not even load it...Silly goose. I would go something like this.

Damage Control II
Small Armor Repairer II
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Gyrostabilizer II

1MN Afterburner II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Warp Scrambler II
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400

200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S
200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S
200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S
200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S
Small Energy Neutralizer II
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I

If he is 10mn AB he will still have range control but you will be able tank his dps with ease and hit him comfortably with barrage. If he is 1mn AB you will have range control and can tank him long enough to neut him dry and kill him.

Note: This is a pretty awful fit otherwise and is just something specific to kill him.
Switch Savage
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-07-30 13:47:36 UTC
Same idea between both our fits really. Knuckles went more tank less spank and I did the opposite. Thermic rig is nice but i did not want to bring the speed difference between you any closer. That said he is highly likely using resist rigs himself so its probably fine.
Doctor Knuckles
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2015-07-30 13:50:03 UTC
ha. great minds etc etc
Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2015-07-30 13:52:41 UTC
many thanks to you both :)
Legatus1982
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2015-07-30 16:34:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Legatus1982
Actually, I have a jackdaw fit that can **** all over those things. Find me in game if you want and I'll link it to you. It will be nearly guaranteed kill. I say nearly only because of some weird things you can do with silly fits and mode switching that you'll have to watch out for, but it's basically a hard counter to every dessy.

The downside is that it's a 50-60m ship that will not be able to fight other stuff besides t3 dessy and some regular t2/t1 dessy. But it will kill its intended victim even when the victim is fitted with bullshit faction crap links and implants, as long as you can point him.
SFM Hobb3s
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2015-07-30 17:54:41 UTC
Real .Men don't even use points ;) Actually I think I put a disruptor on my fessor once just to fool someone. I'll tell you the four things that scare me are Wolves, Jags, svipuls, and Carnies. Wait. No that's Austin Powers.
Atomeon
Laistera
#13 - 2015-07-30 20:25:02 UTC
Switch Savage wrote:
Well Barrage would hit him fine but looks like you did not even load it...Silly goose. I would go something like this.


Barrage against an T2/T3 Ammar ship, what an excellent idea hit him at his high resists? I dont agree with that.
pushdogg
relocation LLC.
#14 - 2015-07-30 20:57:45 UTC
Atomeon wrote:
Switch Savage wrote:
Well Barrage would hit him fine but looks like you did not even load it...Silly goose. I would go something like this.


Barrage against an T2/T3 Ammar ship, what an excellent idea hit him at his high resists? I dont agree with that.



I mean ammar ammo vs Minnie resists is the same thing.....actually Minnie armor tanks ammar like a boss.

I would suggest dual webs, and arty. You will be able to alpha past reps and control range better.
Switch Savage
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-07-31 08:34:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Switch Savage
Atomeon wrote:
Switch Savage wrote:
Well Barrage would hit him fine but looks like you did not even load it...Silly goose. I would go something like this.


Barrage against an T2/T3 Ammar ship, what an excellent idea hit him at his high resists? I dont agree with that.


What would you prefer if being scram kited with autos outside of faction ammo range. Not to hit him at all or to hit him? If you actually read thread you will see he had no range control in his initial engagement. My comment was directed thus.
Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#16 - 2015-07-31 13:33:05 UTC
dual web hecate. Laughter.
Skelee VI
Swamp Panthers
Bog Brotherhood
#17 - 2015-08-01 16:32:12 UTC
Ac svip with 10mn ab
Chessur
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#18 - 2015-08-01 20:03:20 UTC
MWD svipul with neuts, confessors are pretty bad these days imo.
Switch Savage
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2015-08-01 21:27:57 UTC
Chessur wrote:
MWD svipul with neuts, confessors are pretty bad these days imo.


Neut/MWD will not work. Read his original post he got scram kited in his previous mwd/neut fit.
Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2015-08-01 22:07:46 UTC
I have since found out that the dude hAs an alt booster. Which explains a few things and throws my range control out he window as he is Lways faster. I don't have an alt booster. I'm poor
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