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Why we have 2 Hybrid ABC ?
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Oxide Ammar
#1 - 2015-07-27 05:28:51 UTC
What is the reason behind having 2 ABC using Hybrid weapon systems but we lack of having ABC bonused to cruise or torpedoes weapons ? was the situation like this since the introduction of ABCs or it has been switched after the nerf to missiles in general ?

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#2 - 2015-07-27 05:35:02 UTC
the Naga initially had missiles. it was decided it was a bad idea. I don't remember the exact reasons why.

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#3 - 2015-07-27 05:49:40 UTC
Because everything else gets sentries already.

Oh god.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#4 - 2015-07-27 06:00:06 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
the Naga initially had missiles. it was decided it was a bad idea. I don't remember the exact reasons why.

NAGA PLEASE!!!


Missiles did not fit well into the paradigm of a relatively mobile large weapons platform that largely operates at range.

Torps were too short range for a lightly tanked battlecruiser, cruise missiles took too long to hit (which is the reason missiles are shunned in fleet warfare), and both had massive problems applying damage without support mods... which would cut into the already light tank native to the ships and put the Naga at a disadvantage.

I am glad they stuck with hybrids. My Naga is one of the best frigate sniping ships I could ever want... ~400 dps @ ~200km. Cool

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#5 - 2015-07-27 06:39:48 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
the Naga initially had missiles. it was decided it was a bad idea. I don't remember the exact reasons why.


The original torp naga was vaporising cruisers and BC at an alarming rate.
Oxide Ammar
#6 - 2015-07-27 06:53:56 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
the Naga initially had missiles. it was decided it was a bad idea. I don't remember the exact reasons why.

NAGA PLEASE!!!


Missiles did not fit well into the paradigm of a relatively mobile large weapons platform that largely operates at range.

Torps were too short range for a lightly tanked battlecruiser, cruise missiles took too long to hit (which is the reason missiles are shunned in fleet warfare), and both had massive problems applying damage without support mods... which would cut into the already light tank native to the ships and put the Naga at a disadvantage.

I am glad they stuck with hybrids. My Naga is one of the best frigate sniping ships I could ever want... ~400 dps @ ~200km. Cool


I think it can be negated with buff like 200% bonus to missile velocity for an example, like the Barghest.

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Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#7 - 2015-07-27 07:25:25 UTC
Oxide Ammar wrote:
was the situation like this since the introduction of ABCs?

Yes.
The Naga (as has been discussed) was originally designed with bonuses to both hybrids and missiles but this version never made it to Tranquility.
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2015-07-27 17:30:49 UTC
Strange enough but Jackdaw was highly expected as hybrid platform.
But who cares.

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#9 - 2015-07-28 08:41:13 UTC
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Gh0stBust3rs
Project.Nova
The Initiative.
#10 - 2015-07-28 09:11:13 UTC
Basically like baltec said. Missile Naga was so OP CCP dumped the missile bonus and since Caldari already use Hybrids it still followed lore.