EVE General Discussion

Today aprox. 13:00 I entered Niarja in my freighter. An Machariel locked me and tried to bump me, but he failed and hit the Kaaputenen gate. I convoed him and loled him but I was laughing too soon.
When I jumped into Madirmilire, Machariel#2 started to bump me. I was waiting for a while expecting he will just give up. But he didnt give up. So I logged off for 16 mins. expecting that he will be gone. When I warped back to the gate, there was waiting different Machariel#3(probably his alt or friend). Of course he starts to bump me again. I wait 15 mins.
I read here and there that it is considered harassment to bump someone for longer than 15 mins. So 13:42 I filed harassment ticket that I am being bumped for half an hour. Meanwhile they attacked me with a noob ship and tried to convo me which I ignored. GM suggested me to log off. I told him that I cant because I dont want to lose my pod too and that they attacked me twice in noob ships.
I wait for another half an hour hoping that GM will do something about it. But his respond was, that it is ok and he can do nothing. At this point I am being bumped for an hour and the system local filled with a bunch of capsuleers. As it was no suprise to me that CCP's support is useless, I decided to ask for help in anti-ganking channel and my friends in our channel.
3-4 neutral logis(probably from AG) and 3 my friends came to my help. Because the gankers didnt trigger log-off timer on me for a while I decided to log off. I didnt like this idea because I lose bonuses to shield and armor hit points from fleet and possibly lose my pod if they gank me.
When I logged off they triggered log-off timer again but one of my friend managed to bump the machariel and my freighter warped off. I quickly log in again but it was too late and they were bumping me again off the Romi gate. I should set dock to station which I didnt realize.
For some reason when they were bumping me off the Romi gate my ship was trying to warp and I couldnt stop it. They brought second Machariel so I wont escape again. Because the neutral logis went away when I warped off the Niarja gate, the gankers saw their chance to finaly kill me. I think 1-2 AG guys noticed that I am not safe yet and came back.
At 15:13 the gankers(mostly goons) attacked me with cca 18 ships(cats and talos). Their gank failed and I warped back to the spot 400km from Niarja gate, I dont know why or how. Then I quickly and finally docked. I had 95% structure hp and my freighter was fitted with cargohold expanders. It was close.
Here you can see KRs that they kept me there for over 2 hours. When I logged off they attacked me.

I want to thank to all the guys that came to help me. You really saved my a**. CODE likes to say that AG isnt working but it is. And for sure you wont read such a story on minerbumping.

TLDR:
Yeah :D Happy ending. The sad thing is that you are helpless against bumping and that after 12 years CCP didnt fix this mechanic. If you thought that you cant be bumped for longer than 15 mins. then you are wrong. They can bump you all day if they want.
I am not against ganking in high sec. Honestly I had a great time. But it should not be possible to disable a ship for long time especialy in high sec(and yeah bumping titans/sc from under POS shields etc.). I think we all agree on this.
I dont understand why CCP removed the support tickets from the game client. It was very good system and I could see the respond immediately.
Why do you have to break working things and ignore broken s*** for years?

@Jeak I dont see how bumping me for over an hour and then failing to kill me is success.

Holy jeez man!

If you play like you post, I'd put a priority on ganking you too.

Paragraphs man, PARAGRAPHS!!!

Congratulations on your victory. And congratulations to the Code as it wins again as always, generating quality content in highsec apparently worthy of a GD post.

Still, I hope you learned a lesson. It is up to you to protect your ship. Freighters are really quite vulnerable to bumping. It behooves you BotAspirant to stay at your keyboard and bring an escort if you want to keep your ship safe.

But really the vulnerability of capital ships to bumping has been in the game for a decade or more and is a legal use of game mechanics. So protect your ship from being tackled as you are not entitled to a get-out-of-PvP free card even in highsec.

I did some bumping quite recently.

Saw this Obelisk on a gate, well it was 10km off and realised it was auto-piloting, so I set about bumping it toward the gate.

# of people required to save yoiur freighter
web and insta-warp your freighter: 1
Ship cost: Recon (Huggin) - 200m


# of people required to gank your freighter
1-3 Bumping SFI/Machariel - 400m-1.2bn
10? Tier 3 BC -600m

so they need to field ~11 people and you need to field 1 to counter them. They have the broken mechanics?

Wrong.




CCP certainly doesn't. Bumping is a legal, valid mechanic.

"Today aprox. 13:00 I entered Niarja in my freighter..."

Ugh, CHOAD are lazy and poor. I was in Gisleres the other day and saw 4 hulks and a covetor eating a belt with 12 jetcans full of ore floating around them. Now i have a roleplaying thing going with a backstory of my father being hurt in a terrible jetcan mining incident.
Usually i'll steal the ore, my best effort was in Aeddin where i evaded a jaguar and a wolf in my mammoth, in a 2 gate 1 station system.
Now with this criminal timers business i'd need 12 haulers to roll up, loot n warp to easily get away with 20m worth of roid. If only there was an equipped and organised group that could pull off such a minor heist.
But no. There isn't.
OP ran into the fart-joke kids of hisec, who lurk the hubs and the odd bottleneck but never travel or scout.
Back to Gisleres, a few minutes from Dodixie. This single handed, multi-boxing, whole-belt-eating, small-change-earning in hisec operation offends my delicate sensibilities on so many levels. It takes a long time to make a few crumbs in extreme safety. It promotes and extends the forever-in-the-shallows mentality of pilots who crouch around the galaxy in a defensive posture, complaining about their sore backs.
OP, you need maybe 2 friends to beat this, logging off for 16 minutes is barely logging off at all. You have options.
Seeing so much laziness in hisec now, sorely tempted to start a corp that is a skilled, determined attempt to make nullsec look good. Newbros need guidance and a little mercy, 5 year old miners who've never heard of spodumain need a foot in the arse, noisy CHOAD alts making propaganda threads deserve nothing.

You need 20 cats - 100M, to kill a ship for 1.3b. But that is not the problem.

Web doesnt do s*** when you are bumped.... and why should I need 2 accounts to fly a container? You are out of your element Daerrol.

And you dont "need 2 accounts to fly a container"

But you damn sue need more than one account to fly a freaking CAPITAL SHIP DUDE.
Cap ships need support idiot.

You are bad at video games