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Jenn aSide is a cool dude

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#101 - 2015-07-26 10:38:34 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
"If one person tells you that you have a tail, you laugh at them. If a second person tells you that you have a tail, you ignore them. If a third person tells you that you have a tail, it's time to check behind you."

You're well past the thirtieth person at this point.
"If one person tells you that you're a troll, you laugh at them. If a second person tells you that you're a troll, you ignore them. If a third person tells you that you're a troll and you deny it, you're only fooling yourself."

Stop fooling yourself and just admit it, you're a troll.


DMC


With the time you took for that reply, I would have expected better. Tut tut.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#102 - 2015-07-26 16:40:06 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
"If one person tells you that you have a tail, you laugh at them. If a second person tells you that you have a tail, you ignore them. If a third person tells you that you have a tail, it's time to check behind you."

You're well past the thirtieth person at this point.
"If one person tells you that you're a troll, you laugh at them. If a second person tells you that you're a troll, you ignore them. If a third person tells you that you're a troll and you deny it, you're only fooling yourself."

Stop fooling yourself and just admit it, you're a troll.


DMC


With the time you took for that reply, I would have expected better. Tut tut.

Tut tut, not really bothering to say much, are you? Trollface?
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#103 - 2015-07-26 17:23:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Tippia wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Heh, sorry but I gotta disagree with the OP.

Looks like this old saying is still valid - Don't believe everything you read.
…especially if it's written by DeMichael Crimson, since he has a very long history of being wrong about even the most basic of concepts in EVE. Lol

Obviously the feeling is mutual and more importantly, here you are once again posting incorrect info.
Didn't you recently get corrected by CCP Falcon regarding your interpretation of the most basic game concepts in Eve?

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Heh, alt character created 2015-06-07. Grow a pair and post with your main if you're gonna act like you know me.

After checking your forum history of 22 posted replies, seems you're desperately trying to make a name for yourself by trolling others.
Troll he may be, wrong about you he is not; you do lack a sense of proportion and a sense of humour.

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Shocked

Jumping on the bandwagon, huh ?

Anyway, your character is only half as old as mine yet you claim to know my posting history quite well.

Stalk much ?


DMC
Defensive much?
With alt accounts and the character bazaar this is irrelevant; for example I started playing in 09, having sold my first character a couple of years ago, this is my main and his character age doesn't reflect that.

If that's the best you've got, you really are clutching at straws.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#104 - 2015-07-26 18:25:08 UTC
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#105 - 2015-07-26 18:27:36 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:


Troll he may be, wrong about you he is not; you do lack a sense of proportion and a sense of humor.

The above quote MUST be read in Yoda Voice Big smile

DMC isn't all bad despite some very glaring quirks of his, he's actually ben helpful to people. He's actually not my least favorite forum poster either.

But he doesn't know when to back down, when to even leave a thing alone or acknowledge a loss or failing. IMO (and only having his forum posts to go on) He paints himself into an illogical corner and doesn't know how to get out because of pride.

Now can we PLEASE return to the topic of how either totally Awesome or insanely Trollish I am based upon the viewer's pre-existing political views? Pirate
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#106 - 2015-07-26 18:40:11 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
The thing about Jenn's posts I like the best is that he gets three times as much rage for being a "carebear" who chooses not to get ganked than Kaarous gets for ganking.
Most of the haters won't admit it, but the fact of the matter is that he's quite simply better at Eve than they are.

It's all a matter of perspective.

It's really hard to be bad at those activities, and from that perspective, Jenn's repeated failures in that area means he's suckier than they are… P


Big smile

OR, it means that I actually admit my failures publicly, because I know those failures are part of being human, and NOT being able to admit video game failures would mean I was a sucky and egotistical human being lol

Oh I'm sure as hell my detractors fail a lot, you'll just never hear it from them....which is why I have to spend so much time doing that for them , which makes them hate me even more Twisted

Point blank, many people don't understand that telling the truth and taking responsibility for failures hurts a little now and makes tings MUCH better in the future, where as lying and shifting blame feels good right now and screws your life in the future. In game or out, this is how it is.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#107 - 2015-07-26 19:49:47 UTC
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#108 - 2015-07-26 21:24:35 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Didn't you recently get corrected by CCP Falcon regarding your interpretation of the most basic game concepts in Eve?

Nope, I haven't interacted with CCP Falcon at all. In the future do some research first before you post and if you're gonna make accusations, link proof with them.

By the way, what basic game concept are you referring to ? That Eve Online is a Sand Box game in which players can do whatever they want as long as they don't violate the EULA / TOS ?

Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Heh, alt character created 2015-06-07. Grow a pair and post with your main if you're gonna act like you know me.

After checking your forum history of 22 posted replies, seems you're desperately trying to make a name for yourself by trolling others.
Troll he may be, wrong about you he is not; you do lack a sense of proportion and a sense of humour.
Hahaha, that's a good one coming from you. You use to post very helpful and polite replies to others in these forums, now you just post snarky, sarcastic, antagonistic troll replies intended to demean, flame and enrage.

Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Defensive much?
With alt accounts and the character bazaar this is irrelevant; for example I started playing in 09, having sold my first character a couple of years ago, this is my main and his character age doesn't reflect that.

If that's the best you've got, you really are clutching at straws.
The only one that's clutching at straws here is you with your false accusations and resentful attitude.

I can also say I started playing in 2005, stayed for a couple of years, sold that character and then started this one in 2008. No way to prove or disprove that which makes those statements irrelevant.

What's relevant is when a younger character makes assumptions that they know an older characters posting history due to hearsay from others and then decides to post that as a statement of fact.

Anyway, due to my disagreements with your forum idols it's no surprise that you harbor ill will towards me and decided to jump into this as well.. FYI - your forum idols are all big boys who can handle their own battles, no need for you to White Knight for them.


DMC
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#109 - 2015-07-26 22:12:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Nope, I haven't interacted with CCP Falcon at all. In the future do some research first before you post and if you're gonna make accusations, link proof with them.

By the way, what basic game concept are you referring to ? That Eve Online is a Sand Box game in which players can do whatever they want as long as they don't violate the EULA / TOS ?
My apologies, it wasn't quite as recently as I thought and refers to you not accepting some aspects of the sandbox you mention as acceptable play, nevertheless here's the link as requested.


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Hahaha, that's a good one coming from you. You use to post very helpful and polite replies to others in these forums, now you just post snarky, sarcastic, antagonistic troll replies intended to demean, flame and enrage.
I still post helpful and polite replies to others in these forums, that you may not like the contents of them or dislike my view of things doesn't mean that the contents are unsound or that I'm trolling.

The snarky, sarcastic and antagonistic replies, I reserve for those that I feel deserve it.

Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
I can also say I started playing in 2005, stayed for a couple of years, sold that character and then started this one in 2008. No way to prove or disprove that which makes those statements irrelevant.
So why judge people on their character age?

Quote:
What's relevant is when a younger character makes assumptions that they know an older characters posting history due to hearsay from others and then decides to post that as a statement of fact.
You're making assumptions about other players making assumptions.

Assump-ception.

Quote:
Anyway, due to my disagreements with your forum idols it's no surprise that you harbor ill will towards me and decided to jump into this as well.. FYI - your forum idols are all big boys who can handle their own battles, no need for you to White Knight for them.DMC
I don't hold you as a person any ill will at all; I don't know you, so why would I?

Your persona on the forums is an entirely different kettle of fish; while you can be very helpful, you can also be extremely antagonistic.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#110 - 2015-07-27 00:03:22 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Stuff


See what I mean, he just digs deeper and deeper. He can't help it, it's how this guy is.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#111 - 2015-07-27 00:43:12 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Nope, I haven't interacted with CCP Falcon at all. In the future do some research first before you post and if you're gonna make accusations, link proof with them.

By the way, what basic game concept are you referring to ? That Eve Online is a Sand Box game in which players can do whatever they want as long as they don't violate the EULA / TOS ?
My apologies, it wasn't quite as recently as I thought and refers to you not accepting some aspects of the sandbox you mention as acceptable play, nevertheless here's the link as requested.
Nice job of displaying that out of context. Here's the first part of it which was an observation, not an interaction with CCP Falcon :

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4964610#post4964610

Also I never said I didn't accept it, just said I think it's unbalanced in regards to 'Risk verses Reward' and 'Actions verses Consequences'..

Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
I still post helpful and polite replies to others in these forums, that you may not like the contents of them or dislike my view of things doesn't mean that the contents are unsound or that I'm trolling.

The snarky, sarcastic and antagonistic replies, I reserve for those that I feel deserve it.
Ahhh, thanks for the confirmation.

Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
I can also say I started playing in 2005, stayed for a couple of years, sold that character and then started this one in 2008. No way to prove or disprove that which makes those statements irrelevant.
So why judge people on their character age?

I don't hold you as a person any ill will at all; I don't know you, so why would I?

Your persona on the forums is an entirely different kettle of fish; while you can be very helpful, you can also be extremely antagonistic.
Why judge characters on their age? Because if a character posts statements without providing proof pertaining to another character about something that clearly happened long before it was created, then their statements don't have any credence. All it does is perpetuate hearsay.

As for not harboring any ill will towards me, I beg to differ. You've demonstrated it quite a bit in the past so why would now be any different, especially since I never directed any statements towards you until after the fact.



DMC
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#112 - 2015-07-27 00:52:21 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Jenn aSide wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Stuff


See what I mean, he just digs deeper and deeper. He can't help it, it's how this guy is.

In the past I've disagreed and agreed with your statements but I've never outright did personal attacks towards you. Yet somehow you feel inclined to do so against me. I understand you can't help yourself, it's in your nature to incite Flame wars.

One thing is for sure, even if a thousand trolls tried to gangbang me here I won't back down nor will I go quietly away and give the impression that they're right.


DMC
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#113 - 2015-07-27 01:33:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
As for not harboring any ill will towards me, I beg to differ. You've demonstrated it quite a bit in the past so why would now be any different, especially since I never directed any statements towards you until after the fact.



DMC
Understand this, I don't carry in game grievances into my life outside of the game and its environs. In the context of Eve I will quite happily shoot you in the face in game, that carries over onto the forums where opinions and viewpoints related to Eve are going to differ.

Outside the context of Eve and the forums, I will happily share a beer with my, ingame and forum, enemies anytime.

I have no out of game beef with you as a person, as I said I wish you no ill will.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#114 - 2015-07-27 01:51:25 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:


Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
I still post helpful and polite replies to others in these forums, that you may not like the contents of them or dislike my view of things doesn't mean that the contents are unsound or that I'm trolling.

The snarky, sarcastic and antagonistic replies, I reserve for those that I feel deserve it.
Ahhh, thanks for the confirmation.


Actually he's right, I see him post helpful and polite replies. I've also seen him drop what would be considered trolly posts, to what seems to be to people that deserved it (imo), being themselves dropping trolly posts etc. Bro, what makes him different from you in that general aspect? You dropped a trolly flame bait post in this thread on page one, not even any tact, just blunt troll club action. You have only tried to disrupt what would be considered a generally positive thread in it's conception.

You can take that how you want, but I'm still not taking sides. For threads like this, I generally just don't post if I don't like the person (where I do generally like how Jenn posts). And for me to troll that thread to disrupt it shouting "troll", well doesn't make me any the better for it.

Hey I admit to trolling sometimes, but I typically bide my time for particular posters to make mistakes, then target the post rather than the poster, and attempt to outwit them to biomass or ragequit or something. Not random targets, that's not cool, needs to be history, I don't want to be viewed as bitter or a bad-troll. I see this as typical, coming out of most if not all forum regulars, even if they find it hard to admit to themselves that they do it too.

I'm in it for the money

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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#115 - 2015-07-27 02:30:05 UTC
Webvan wrote:
Actually he's right, I see him post helpful and polite replies. I've also seen him drop what would be considered trolly posts, to what seems to be to people that deserved it (imo), being themselves dropping trolly posts etc. Bro, what makes him different from you in that general aspect? You dropped a trolly flame bait post in this thread on page one, not even any tact, just blunt troll club action. You have only tried to disrupt what would be considered a generally positive thread in it's conception.

You can take that how you want, but I'm still not taking sides. For threads like this, I generally just don't post if I don't like the person (where I do generally like how Jenn posts). And for me to troll that thread to disrupt it shouting "troll", well doesn't make me any the better for it.

Hey I admit to trolling sometimes, but I typically bide my time for particular posters to make mistakes, then target the post rather than the poster, and attempt to outwit them to biomass or ragequit or something. Not random targets, that's not cool, needs to be history, I don't want to be viewed as bitter or a bad-troll. I see this as typical, coming out of most if not all forum regulars, even if they find it hard to admit to themselves that they do it too.

Let's set the record straight :

My original post in this thread was a simple statement of disagreement with the OP mixed in with a little bit of sarcasm, nothing more. No personal attacks were directed towards anyone.

Due to the thread topic a bunch of fanboys, friends and alts in true GD mentality decided to start trolling me by posting personal attacks, incorrect statements and unfounded accusations.

After refuting said statements and accusations, others such as yourself for no other reason than to be part of the crowd, decided to jump in and continue the flame war.

You chose a side when you decided to post incorrect statements about me and you still insist on doing so. In fact this latest reply from you is nothing more than a troll post intended to demean me and incite rage, basically fanning the flames of a forum thread war.




DMC
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#116 - 2015-07-27 02:34:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
The words "persecution complex" spring to mind.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#117 - 2015-07-27 03:00:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Webvan
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Heh, sorry but I gotta disagree with the OP.

Looks like this old saying is still valid - Don't believe everything you read.

Twisted



DMC



That's a classic bait post, dude.

Heh = inject negativism in this format, your opening remark to set up for what will follow.
Sorry but = means you are not sorry.
I gotta disagree with the OP = the meat of the clubbing action in an appreciation thread.
Then finally, a kick down statement "Looks like this old saying is still valid - Don't believe everything you read."
Followed by an emoticon to make sure no one misunderstood your intention to bait the thread.
DMC = an authoritative signature to reflect full ownership of above statement.

Just own it, you're trolling. I'm less concerned whether or not you are in fact trolling, but not recognizing that that is in fact what you are doing gives me concern. I'm just giving you an honest assessment, I don't recognize any such accusation of flame war in my behalf. If I chose to do that, there would be no question to my intent and purpose. However, 'history' has not moved me in that direction. Correction, yes, flame war, definitely not. As for what followed this opening post, I assume that was it's intent and desired outcome, as all baiting tends to be designed for.

Edit: btw I just saw what you posted in lagl, that's some cold **** dude. If you are going to troll this thread (as you clearly have), you should at least troll these guys to their face rather than going to some other thread to talk **** behind their backs. I can't respect that, dude Sad
imo you owe these people an apology for that, that's just wrong.

I'm in it for the money

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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#118 - 2015-07-27 06:44:49 UTC
Webvan wrote:

Edit: btw I just saw what you posted in lagl, that's some cold **** dude. If you are going to troll this thread (as you clearly have), you should at least troll these guys to their face rather than going to some other thread to talk **** behind their backs. I can't respect that, dude Sad
imo you owe these people an apology for that, that's just wrong.
FYI - your opinion that I'm trolling this thread is incorrect. Seems a bunch of fanboys can't take a little bit of sarcasm with a simple post of disagreement with the OP but they sure can dish it out to everyone else.

For someone who claims to be on no side and not causing a flame war, you sure are investing a lot of time into keeping it going.

BTW - What I said in LAGL is exactly the same thing I said here. What's really cold sh*t and a trollish action is you trying to direct everyone in here over to that thread.



DMC


Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#119 - 2015-07-27 06:52:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Webvan
lol dude you're outright trolling this thread hahaha. You baited it, then engaged your presumed enemy. Then you went to another thread to talk ship about them behind their back. Think on that a few days, I didn't report you for trolling or anything to get you banned, I don't report people unless posting tranny porn or something. You owe them an apology, flat out, I'm done with this line of conversation with you.

I'm in it for the money

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#120 - 2015-07-27 07:03:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
What I think of when I think of Jenn in real life.

Likely reality.

I'd like to mess with the first one, but I aint messing with the second. Yes sir, all the way.

Maybe the blending of the two (slightly risky for work)

Yeah I aint messing with that either.

Love you on the forum Jenn. Don't want to meet you in a dark alley.