EVE New Citizens Q&A

1. Always
2. New system, suppose to spark more smaller fights. I don't doubt it'll go through adjustments as it's brand new right now.
3. I just pew *shrugs*

Lag in big fights is almost eliminated by the concept of time dilation. If the server node can't handle the load, the ticks just get longer and everything in that system happens in slow-motion but functions as usual.

Let's just say I would gladly offer you 15 billion for the Warrior II BPO and at the same time advise you not to take the deal unless you need the money urgently.

Don't post incorrect info here in Eve New Citizens Q&A again.

Ganking has now become the dominate play style in high sec. Any ship on Auto-Pilot is now a target. If you plan on moving goods to or from Market, always do it in a ship that's fit with heavy defensive tank, set up instant un-dock spots at stations and do manual travel by selecting jump option from gate to next gate.



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I really do appreciate all the responses. The ones about transporting in high sec definitely gave a me a chuckle. The last time I saw a warrior 2 BPO sell it went for like 85 bil, that is why I asked :). PLEX prices have quadrupled since I played last, that kinda sucks if you are a buyer...

So to summarize, except for market prices, probably few new ships, dust and a some changes to help with lag in PVP nothing much has drastically changed than. That isn't necessarily a bad thing.

1. Thanks, that is what I figured. What changed the significance of the hubs if you know? Was it faction warefare update, null sec power block shifts, dust, something like that?

2. interesting. I guess you just have to experience it and compare than.

3. Started playing in 2006 and they said the same thing then. It is nice they acknowledged it was a mistake though. A little history if you are interested; I remember being miffed at the original lottery implementation of T2 BPOs in the beginning of the game in 2003. I remember being down in curse, new player, ratting, and found a tobias spawn. Sold it, and bought a Tech 2 drone BPO. Not really impressive at the time, but it was cool to me.

There was a change to nanos around 2008 I believe that buffed minmatar ship speed significantly. Warrior 2s quadrupled in value because they were the only drone that could keep up with interceptors. A warrior 2 BPO I bought for 1.6 billion was worth as enough to buy a titan (around 80 bil?) a year after I bought it. Such is eve, that is why I like it.




Thanks for the heads up, and the reply in general. I remember the atmosphere and "culture", glad to know it hasn't changed. They did do a lot of UI upgrades, and the game does run pretty smooth.

IMO, you've got a (hand-held) magnifier and you're zooming in to see if these 3 tiny specific things have changed, and you're then concluding that "nothing much has changed" based on that.

You may be in for a bit of a surprise. Or maybe not.

1. Not counting nullsec, here's the present situation with hubs.

Jita has 30 trillion in sell orders up at any given time (average).
Amarr is next with around 10T,
Dodixie 5T
Rens 4T
Hek with 2.5T is the last true hub.
Oursalert is next at about 1T and usually isn't considered a hub (although it sortof is one).


2. Better but mainly due to meta shifts away from fights all happening on one grid.

3. Yes; that's worth somewhere in the middle 11 figure range. Not sure exactly where in that range. If you want to sell it, I'd suggest finding someone who trades BPOs a lot (Zahara Cody comes to mind, though I'm not vouching for him) and offer them 10% if they broker you a sale at the highest price they can achieve.

You are only going off of total isk value of sell orders. Jita has such and insane amount of each item up for sale that it is way more than could be used in any reasonable length of time.

With reference to the OPs original question it seemed to me that he was asking from a point of usability of the hub. From that standpoint Amarr has made huge strides towards jita in recent years. When comparing the number of people in system now versus when I first started Amarr's population is much closer to Jitas. However my point point of judgment was the ability to roll up into the hub system and know that you can buy pretty much any ship and fully fit it out without having to travel all over the place to pick stuff up and paying a price that is similar to jita. In that regard Amarr is essentially equivalent to jita. Dodixie is almost there as well and Hek you can do if you are willing to compromise on the occasional out of the ordinary module or rig.

Active sell orders does not seem to be a good stat to measure the usability of a hub. It's not even a good stat to understand the market health of that hub. I would say daily volume would be a much better number to compare one hub to the other. Amarr might have one third of the sell orders up at any given point in time but if their daily volume was higher then Amarr would be a more active hub. The increased sell orders in jita would just mean that you stuff would sit on the market for longer. That is a hypothetical situation mind you. I'm not say that Amarr has a higher daily volume I'm just point out how that statistic would seem to be more pertinent to the discussion.

A quick comment on Oursalert is that you can roll up into that system in a pod and pull out in a fully fitted ship that is basically what you were looking for. You might have to make some changes to your fit to go with what is available and you might pay a bit more than jita prices but it can be used as a hub in the that sense and in the sense that a mission runner as available to them most stuff that they would need without having to run to Jita.

Not sure where everyone is getting their info about Trade-hub ranking.

I know it's been a few years but in my opinion this list still ranks the Trade-hubs in their correct order. Granted the amount of Market Orders and ISK Market Value has changed but the order of this list is basically the same now as it was back in March 2012.

http://users.telenet.be/mmodata/EVE/EveTradeHubs.htm



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