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First Priority: Find Veniel

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Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-12-08 00:18:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Andreus Ixiris
I'm offering a one billion (1,000,000,000) ISK reward to anyone who can provide reliable information as to the current whereabouts and status of one Veniel, Jovian member of the Society of Conscious Thought. Locator agents have been notoriously unreliable lately and I won't pay anyone who offers me the results of a locator search anything more than however much it cost them to run it (if I'm feeling particularly generous). However, the person who can provide information that leads me to either a face-to-face meeting with the man or at least a prolonged conversation with him over a commlink gets the full reward as soon as I get to talk to him, no strings attached, no questions asked. And yes, you can claim it even if you work for the Amarr Empire - I'm that interested in finding the man.

Veniel always seemed to be one step ahead of the rest of New Eden, other Jovians included, and so if anyone has an answer to the many otherwise unanswerable questions I have, it's him. We haven't heard from him in a while, but unless anyone's seen the body I'm absolutely convinced he's still alive - and to be brutally honest, seeing his body wouldn't be very good proof either. He's a capsuleer - and a Jovian - after all.

Oh, and Veniel, I know if you're still alive, you'll be reading this, and probably laughing. How about you have a think on this: New Eden's a big bloody mess right now and quite a lot of it is due to the Jovians, in some way or another, not telling us something that we, by all rights, needed to know. In fact, I think the responsibility for at least one of the major mishaps in our cluster could be placed directly at your feet - or those of your "brother", Admiral Ouria. I think at the very least you owe us some straight bloody answers, for once.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

N'maro Makari
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#2 - 2011-12-08 01:52:18 UTC  |  Edited by: N'maro Makari
While I applaud the obvious drive and passion you have, the more realistic side of me obligates me to inform you that the Jove, Veniel or not, are experts at avoiding widely publicised efforts to hunt/find/talk to them.

They show up when they want, where they want, and not often.

You will find Veniel if he chooses to be found. But I'm somewhat dubious that meeting capsuleers who put a bounty on him fits into his timetable.

Just thought I'd point that out.

((edit, typo))

**Vherokior **

Mikkel Lybecker
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2011-12-08 01:56:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Mikkel Lybecker
Hey, I could really use the ISK, so Veniel, if you're reading this, don't talk to Andreus, talk to me, and then I'll talk to Andreus. Let me know if you want a commission. Cheers.
Myxx
The Scope
#4 - 2011-12-08 02:32:39 UTC
I have reason to believe that a certain mutual enemy of ours knows exactly where he is. If that tells you anything, you may wish to consider how you're going about this.
Helen Ohmiras
Doomheim
#5 - 2011-12-08 05:22:06 UTC
Hello, Andreus Ixiris. I do not have a location for Veniel, aside from the unreliable trace I performed around the formation of the Arek'jaalan project that placed him in Jita 4-4, but I have a general idea of the information you are seeking. I headed down that line of inquiry myself not too long ago. I have a simple warning, nothing more. Take from it what you will.

This particular line of inquiry is dangerous, and I see what you are hoping to find. Remember that it is seldom the actions of a single man or woman who changes the course of history, but the combined action - and sometimes inaction - of many.

You of all people should understand that Veniel will not face trial for any crimes you believe he has committed. There are no answers to be had. If anything, he would be simply left to his own devices in the Void should he truly be guilty of anything or even admit what I think you believe he has done. Even if he were to give answers he would certainly face a fate similar to that of Ouria.

So, Andreus, I ask you this. Do you really want answers, or are you acting on impulse? I do not mean that as an insult, simply that you should think this through. There are other paths to such answers.
Muck Raker
Gutter Press
#6 - 2011-12-08 18:24:23 UTC
Veniel the Jovian is a frequent letter writer to Gutter Press.

His address is:
Veniel the Jovian
c/o Dr. en Chasteaux
Caille State Psychiatric Research Hospital
Caille
Gallente Prime
Luminaire

Rumours, Wars, Rumours of Wars, Wars of Rumours!

James Gheris
Gravitech Developments
#7 - 2011-12-08 19:40:52 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Oh, and Veniel, I know if you're still alive, you'll be reading this, and probably laughing.

Considering the innate Jovian obsession with knowledge and information, I think it's pretty unlikely that Veniel keeps an eye on IGS.

By the same token, if you really want a conversation with Veniel, you're better off getting it with a billion isk secret than a billion isk bounty; tempt him with a nice juicy piece of intel and I'm sure he'll trade whatever answers you're thirsty for.
Thgil Goldcore
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2011-12-08 19:59:11 UTC
James Gheris wrote:
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Oh, and Veniel, I know if you're still alive, you'll be reading this, and probably laughing.

Considering the innate Jovian obsession with knowledge and information, I think it's pretty unlikely that Veniel keeps an eye on IGS.

By the same token, if you really want a conversation with Veniel, you're better off getting it with a billion isk secret than a billion isk bounty; tempt him with a nice juicy piece of intel and I'm sure he'll trade whatever answers you're thirsty for.


Good thinking, far more likely to succeed with that. Although trying both approaches is a good idea. Good to have as many lines in the water as possible, as a matter of speaking.
Lucius Vindictus
Arachnos
#9 - 2011-12-08 23:56:29 UTC
Muck Raker wins! Lol

I highly doubt that Jovians or anyone that has the resources to be in regular contact with them care much for a paltry 1 Billion ISK...
Mikkel Lybecker
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2011-12-09 08:41:33 UTC
Lucius Vindictus wrote:
Muck Raker wins! Lol

I highly doubt that Jovians or anyone that has the resources to be in regular contact with them care much for a paltry 1 Billion ISK...


By calling 1 billion ISK "paltry" you just consented to donating 1 billion ISK to me. Come on, you know you want to. After all it's only a "paltry" 1 billion.
Brawyn78
4 Marketeers
Rura-Penthe
#11 - 2011-12-09 12:26:15 UTC
To be honest I wouldn't mind talking to that Jovian either .... but I don't think that's going to happen even in a capsuleer's lifetime. Somehow I think that even with a "billion isk secret" you won't be luring him anywhere. And don't bother with that wormhole to Jovian space hypothesis ... it's mathematically not possible (they made sure of that).
Lucius Vindictus
Arachnos
#12 - 2011-12-09 13:27:49 UTC
Mikkel Lybecker wrote:
Lucius Vindictus wrote:
Muck Raker wins! Lol

I highly doubt that Jovians or anyone that has the resources to be in regular contact with them care much for a paltry 1 Billion ISK...


By calling 1 billion ISK "paltry" you just consented to donating 1 billion ISK to me. Come on, you know you want to. After all it's only a "paltry" 1 billion.


I never said it's paltry to meBlink
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2011-12-09 16:38:49 UTC
I don't consider it a very great loss if I don't get to talk to Veniel - I realise there's very little chance of it happening in any case, and hey, worst comes to worst, that's one billion ISK I tragically, tragically... don't have to give to anyone. I would like to clarify that this isn't a bounty I'm putting on Veniel's head - even were violence on my mind, I have no intention of risking my life trying to kill a Jovian. I just want some answers. This is a reward for someone who puts me in contact with him.

Yeah, I imagine it's a paltry sum for someone who deals with Jovians on a regular basis (if such people exist). An extra billion ISK, however, is always a nice thing to have.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Kazuma Ry
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2011-12-09 17:51:54 UTC
Muck Raker wrote:
Veniel the Jovian is a frequent letter writer to Gutter Press.

His address is:
Veniel the Jovian
c/o Dr. en Chasteaux
Caille State Psychiatric Research Hospital
Caille
Gallente Prime
Luminaire



Mr Ixiris,

I believe that Ms Raker has provided you with the reliable information you were looking for. Since She is a reporter with a reliable news agency, you should ensure that you send her the 1 Billion Isk that you promised.


Kazuma Ry
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2011-12-09 18:11:47 UTC
She is a reliable news reporter in the same sense that you are an amusing comedian.

That is to say, don't quit your day job.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#16 - 2011-12-10 09:14:45 UTC
Andreus why do you think that this Veniel wiil anvser any of your questions even if you find him.

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2011-12-10 17:46:45 UTC
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
Andreus why do you think that this Veniel wiil anvser any of your questions even if you find him.


Well, I think of it like this - he can quite easily choose whether he wants to talk to me or not. People out there searching for him in hopes of obtaining my reward are most likely only going to find him if he wants to be found. Basically, if he allows himself to be put in contact with me, then he's most likely at least willing to answer a few questions. He wouldn't risk his safety by coming out of hiding just to play mind games.

Or perhaps he would. But I think even the Jovians are more logical than that.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Helen Ohmiras
Doomheim
#18 - 2011-12-11 09:09:29 UTC
It is an interesting quest you have started. I do have some basic questions.

If all your answers were provided to you tomorrow, what would you have left to strive for? What would you have lost? What would you have gained?

I am not saying you are wrong in your request. It is yours to make. I simply wish to point out that though there is logic in your query, it displays a lack of wisdom and insight. Please do not take that as an insult. I myself fall into the same seductive trap. I have to constantly remind myself that finding the answers myself is a far more rewarding goal.

I like to think that the Jove would approve of that line of reasoning. Regardless of the outcome I wish you luck and I hope you find the answers you are searching for.
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#19 - 2011-12-11 10:23:22 UTC
Meh, Jovians are emotionless freaks that only give you something if you give them something first. Or maybe they won't give you anything at all.

Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook 

Daniel L'Siata
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#20 - 2011-12-12 06:46:31 UTC
I don't think you'll be finding him.

Veniel finding you though? Well, that's a different story entirely. He was last traced to 4-4 to the best of my knowledge.

Also, confirming Muck Raker as a 100% accurate and reliable source, haven't you ever heard of grains of truth? The very, very, very small ones.
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