EVE General Discussion

I never understood the concept and how this would benefit EvE or players. Death and immortality are the foundation of EvE.

Just flag perma-death toons as perma-death toons. I imagine most folks would automatically reject perma-death toons from recruitment, or at least limit their access to corp/alliance positions, intel, etc. They would be KoS to most everyone in null on principle (NBSI is a bit defacto so not much change there.) Marking perma-death clones as obvious perma-death clones would (partially) address your concerns, no?

There could also be "gray" perma-death clones. Clones linked to "mains". Newbies could play the game in static clones while leveling up their main. Established players could dabble in risky null activities, etc. It would help prevent reputation avoidance techniques. Lore wise, given what the Broker was able to do with clones, there's not a real limit here.

Another idea is that these perma-death clones can only be created by Sov holders (e.g. special clone vats in stations) instead of from pirate factions. Thus such clones would automatically become members of the owning corp/allance which would reduce reputation avoidance to a degree (and no, they can't leave the alliance/corp except feet first.[1])


OTOH, the game already has a history of spies, so would disposable perma-death clones really change anything?



[1] Given the nature of space death, "leaving feet first" would probably have been replaced with a more applicable metaphor.

So anyone could make a fresh 20m SP alt account rather then train up a Power of 2 / buddy account for their alt?

Yeah the core concept is so ridiculously open to abuse that it would have to hedged about by such an equally ridiculous number of special rules and exceptions to stop abuse that it makes the concept basically unusable.

Presumably CCP have decided to prioritise ideas that might actually work instead.

They can do this but liven up the game a little bit.

Give every account a 4th slot for the permadeath toon.

And make that slot disappear from the account forever when that permadeath toon gets killed.

Im actually surprised this hasnt been mentioned/thought of.

Guys


You really think ccps gonna let us just recycle the permadeath toons and give them to us for free??

Lol


I see these costing about 2 PLEX for each. 20mill sp. Greed is good.

Tell me im wrong

there was never a plan it was just an idea. though there might be a plan.. the drifter thing could easily be setting this up

I don't know. It depends how they limited it quite honestly. They really didn't mention much about intention, soo...
I'm all for permadeath, have played games with it before, it works, just depends how it's done. To help newbies somehow experience this game, it'll likely be bad. But access by newbies is fine I would think. But really it would need to be something that works with EVE, not just a crutch for something, nor grandiose in intent. There is no real dialog with CCP about it, so no idea.

Of course not. But there will be a 35 day cycle time before you can reload a dead perma-death toon slot, assuming you a use a scripted Medical Growth Clone station module (MGC).