Intergalactic Summit

It was indeed an honor to be in attendance. To answer: the rumors were false. No Tyrannos Vessels were present (which is in itself more suspicious than if they had appeared.

Just to make more explicitly clear the point my good kinswoman has raised: when you found us, the Starkmanir already had an entire second homeworld established. A homeworld your people enslaved, and then later obliterated via orbital bombardment. So please, do not patronize anyone by claiming the Amarr took us to the stars.

And to Alesius Lerance: I apologize for the tangent, but truly, some claims are just too egregious to allow to stand unchallenged, lest others take silence for assent. From the information available, no Drifter-class battleships are known to have attacked the Empress' Avatar, though there is some speculation that they may not leave the new Imperial Abaddon similarly unmolested. Especially not, as some within the Imperium have posited, the Imperial Abaddon proves to be specifically designed around the new Entosis systems - perhaps even including a modified version of the station shields that the Empress distributed against CONCORD's wishes.

But for that, we shall have to await the Auctoritas' completion and shakedown trials. Or successful espionage on the part of the Caldari State to fall into the Guristas' hands. Really, it's amazing how often they just happen to 'steal' technology from the State, isn't it?

Currently, I am much more puzzled by one of the declarations made by the empress in that ceremony and that seems to have slid under the radar...

"their [The Drifters] origins are unknown, but they are certainly no product of the Lord's work"

That in itself, is a ground breaking declaration to me. I am surprised that nobody, either among baseliners or capsuleers, has noticed it yet.

To be honest I don't understand the fuss about whether she's a clone or not. Surely it would be only prudent for a personage in such a position to take any and all precautions to protect themselves? I'd go as far as to say it is even their duty to their people to do so.

I'm more concerned with the fact that she is (possibly) a hot clone, priorities and all that...

Her holyness said, they are not his work, not they are not part of his plan as if he were surprised and threatened by them.
The evils commited by men are their work, not his even though he is perfectly aware of them.

It was not just anyone who said it but her Holiness the empress, who speaks with God's own voice.

Even so surely if everything is part of God's plan that that would mean that the Drfiters are also a part of that plan too. If they are not then that would imply that God's plan is at least a little fallible.

I'd like to refer you to my previous post:



Nobody said, they were not part of his plan.
We do not know why he allowed their creation or other things such as the majority of mankind falling from the faith.
I understand that someone without the faith will not agree with our trust in his plan but her Majesty's revelation that the Drifters are not His work is in not in contradiction with his omnipotence and omniscience.

The Drifters could be seen as a corruption of the Lord's work, and therefore would not be considered His work. We as imperfect humans can create imperfect objects against the will of God. In no way did the Empress contradict on God's omnipotence. He would have foreseen the Drifters, but they were not of His hands, but by scientific reasoning as reported in the recent autopsy, Man's hands. Most likely the Jove.

Man's works, unless done in the glory of God and within the Scriptures, are not the Lord's work. Nor does God reveal all to the Empress, He would know their origin, but likely challanges us to find said origin by not revealing it to Her Majesty.

But they are still a product of his work, no? Without his work in Creation, they could not exist. The Rattlesnake is not the work of the Caldari, but it is an indirect product of the work of the Caldari in their Scorpion design.