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Gankers

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Alric Rosenthal
Black Fox Marauders
Pen Is Out
#61 - 2015-07-18 17:09:53 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Rah McGee wrote:
-10 shouldn't be able to dock anywhere in high space

Why? The mega corporations who own those stations don't answer to Concord, so why should they give two ****s what you do to other immortal capsuleers? I could understand being denied docking based on your standing with the owning corporation, but not based on sec status.


Actually... the SCC, a division of Concord is responsible for regulating and monitoring all trade transactions that take place on space stations. It has agents on all stations that record the transactions and they also offer courier and escrow services to make trade smooth. This includes all transactions for us and all transactions for the npc corporations. To think that Concord does not have a say in what transpires on space stations owned by the factions or various npc corporations is a farce.

While I do not agree with the thread starter's ideas it makes perfect sense that a criminal would be unable to dock in highsec. On the flip side:

You're either wolf or a sheep. If you absolutely must be a sheep you should at least think like a wolf to avoid getting eaten by one.

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Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#62 - 2015-07-18 17:48:28 UTC
Jackson F Kenrick wrote:

Imagine if you will someone drives down Main St in your city....


You should have just stopped right there, rethought your post, and then used either the back button or closed down your browser.

This. Is. A. Game.

It. Is. Not. Real. Life.

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Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#63 - 2015-07-18 17:58:51 UTC
Madd Adda wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Rah McGee wrote:
-10 shouldn't be able to dock anywhere in high space

Why? The mega corporations who own those stations don't answer to Concord, so why should they give two ****s what you do to other immortal capsuleers? I could understand being denied docking based on your standing with the owning corporation, but not based on sec status.


why? mega corps even in the future would have reputation to consider. Haboring criminals would a good to destroy one's own reputation.



Right.

Roll

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Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#64 - 2015-07-18 18:12:39 UTC
Rah McGee wrote:
Black Pedro wrote:
[quote=Black Pedro]
"Logic" is not a game balance reason. Far too many things are illogical in this game, starting with the infallibility of CONCORD itself.


Yeah sure, lets defy logic for balance sake.



Yes. Lets. Game balance is far more important than what you think is logical. Roll

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Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#65 - 2015-07-18 18:31:22 UTC
Rah McGee wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Rah McGee wrote:
Mag's wrote:


Restricting a perfectly legitimate game style because you do not like it, isn't a reason for change.


No one is restricting the gememechanic. You still will be able to gang.
Oh my bad. I thought not being able to dock was a restriction. Roll


I am glad that you see where you are wrong. This is not a restriction but a gamefix. Criminals will still be able to dock in null sec for instance.


First off, this is just stupid. A "gamefix" can be a restriction. In this case, your "gamefix" is a restriction. Pilots with a -10 standing will be restricted from docking in HS space. So maybe you can stop the stupid ****ing bullshite in regards to this being a restriction.

Second lets sit down and think of some consequences of this errant nonsense.

First off, once you hit -10 sec status you are not stuck there. You can get it higher and thus allow for docking. So all this restriction would do is result in a the -10 pilot running to a belt shoot a rat, go to the next system and rinse and repeat. Once he is at -9.9 he can dock up again.

Second, previous nerfs to HS ganking can probably be at least partially credited with the creation of CODE. and possibly even miniluv. Here's a bold idea...further "nerfs to ganking" might lead to ganking becoming even more and better organized.

As an aside, look at executive compensation (yes, yes, I know RL example, shame on me, but just bear with me....). Ever since the Great Depression in the U.S. it has come under increasing regulation. Much of it "well intended" to prevent the growth of wealth and income inequality. Problem is, it is now looking like that those very regulations are exacerbating the situation not helping it. So the point is....careful for what you ****ing wish for because you might get it....and in this game it means right in the face with every barrel of anti-matter filled tech II light neutron cannon!

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Kenrailae
Scrapyard Artificer's
#66 - 2015-07-18 18:35:21 UTC
Why would I waste time shooting belt rats when I can just go buy tags? What?

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal

Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#67 - 2015-07-18 18:38:12 UTC
Kenrailae wrote:
Why would I waste time shooting belt rats when I can just go buy tags? What?


Well...shooting rats is "free" so if you are low in ISK it is an option and it puts ISK in your wallet too.

But a very good point. People who gank will have a way around this, probably many ways some of which we have not even thought of yet.

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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
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ISD Alliance
#68 - 2015-07-18 20:25:57 UTC
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