Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Figured out why his t3D isn't as op as the rest. lowslot eaten by pants.

Sound reasoning; it's obscene that this hasn't been fixed sooner. +1

They aren't balanced if this is a problem.

You don't fix problems by banning ****. . Especially in this case. Yes we know you ship is OP....so the the only thing we will do is not allow it here. its still unabalanced....nothing is solved.

These plexes are meant to be run by dessies and frigates. The "noob" ships. T3C i can see vaguely the banning. A proper t3c is not a quick train. And the larger size. We start banning t3d....dessies are a lower sp ship ffs. This is what makes up FW...its what it tries to recruit from even Still not fixing underlying issues with the t3d.



how far will this go really. Ban pirate if THE fit is found that it owns, again.

For the years leading up to this when the dessie people whined about lack of a t2 combat dessie i said pulll the bubbles off a dictor and there you go. I was smart enough to train for sabres. You go guns only on these things....lets the good times f'ing roll really. If other races dic's sucked (bulletcatcher until ccp finally tweaked some things for example....took them friggin years to do so though)...that was a hey pimp my ride request thread to resolve the issue better..

Now we have the t3d....that surpass even pure damage (no bubble dictors). This was a benchmark ccp could have used to reign t3d in day 1.....and chose not too.

Given choice between one ship cant find a place in mediums or smalls and one ship class owns smalls, ill take the former.

psst...the t3 dessie is still dessie.

Why I said where do we stop this ban madness. Lets have for giggles ccp have lots of eve nerds cream themselves as they release....duh duh duh.....t3 frigates.


We'd be back here days after release going ban the t3F.


You got t3 cruisers banned because of size. Logically this flows. This is banning a dessie from dessie combat. And the start of a slippery slope really. Lets see this happen. Then some actually take my advice and run bubbleless dictors. Sabre I know is quite fun in this setup. Will that then be banned?


Its time for faction warfare to to face some realities. Some people will pay more isk for the performance. The want to run trash suicide trasher while old boy/girl wants to splurge on svipul. That's eve. Some aren't scared to cough up isk. Svipul I know why they do it. It tbh is the first ride that small arty truly shines on.

Svipul....was the arty boat minmatar was due for many many years. So not gonna fault people for spamming it. Its worth the cost of admission to actually enjoy any effort put into small arty training. Especially when runner up is a usually tankless (mine had cdfe....not very tank lets be honest), not properly bonuses arty wolf. Arty jag (which has bonuses for arty for the wtf moment) solid third place since it just lacks really in its ability to run them decent.

I'd like to ban T3D from the game altogether, if that's alright.

Lmao what. T3 cruisers are considered bigger than cruisers and that's logical, but T3 dessies being considered that is not? You might be the dumbest person I have ever met on the Internet.

How so. the request is to ban a dessie from dessie content. this is more stupid imo.

BS level tank, bs level damage of t3c.....made sense. As a Band-Aid anyway. I am in the lets fix these damn things camp tbh. Hiding the issue by banning them only a Band-Aid and did not help to give motivation to fix them.

Also its more stupid to ban over better options. Hiding problems does not get them fixed. If the scourge of t3d that bad in fw....write a better idea explaining why. that has a premise better than well I can't take them on solo in a t1 dessie if all things relatively equal (skills, hell lets give both the perfect fleet booster even). Shall I fake surprise about that outcome?


this even easy....t3d has issues. Caleb above gave you all starter ideas for this. If the premise of this idea a trasher can't solo these and this the whole basis for change is just idiotic. making t1 look bad....not a good argument. T2 does this ffs. So does pirate/faction. T2 and t3 is supposed to be better than t1. Can't afford to roll out in it....welcome to isk war aspect of organized eve pvp. Get used to it....barring going piracy or RvB you will meet this again in WH and 0.0.


Lets stop the banning ideas basically and fix this crap. Hiding never works. the crap just festers really and gets worse.