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Daemun Khanid

Corbeau de sang

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#21 - 2015-07-17 05:34:25 UTC

Webvan wrote:

Daemun Khanid wrote:

I'm way too tired, have had too much wine and my head hurts too much to even figure out your angle right now. Straight

Moral of the story is, you want war don't be a civilian.
Good night. Blink

Just stating you mentioned the obvious that I think most missed, that he is not actually in fw, just trying to solo pirate. Which is fine in itself, but a pirate shouldn't expect fw players to eagerly engage them, nor do pirates have access to intel that the fw provides. Maybe I should start looking into this wine stuff.

It makes for some fun nights... and some disastrous ones

. Tonight I can't be bothered to find out which. Now that I'm actually logged off the server, o7 for real.

Daemun of Khanid

Bienator II

madmen of the skies

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#22 - 2015-07-17 05:35:00 UTC | Edited by: Bienator II

Darth Terona wrote:

I can't really blame the fw farmer. There is no reason for them to fight and no draw back for not engaging.

yeah, thats why we try to push for timer rollbacks since the inferno expansion. But the farmer lobby is so established by now that they derail the thread as soon you would post about it. The root of the problem is just like you described that there is no incentive to fight since the mechanics persist progress after a plex farmer ran away. (stabs, cloaks etc are really a symptom, not the actual problem)

you can farm lp in fw without actually fighting for the grid with the side effect of influencing sov while doing that.

not to mention that even if you are in FW too and wait in the plex to tick the timer down by yourself, you trade your time with a farmer in 1:1 manner WHILE the farmer is already sitting in another plex (in the next system for example). Even nullsec has it done right this time and defensive entosing costs a fraction of the time as offensive entosing - not the case in FW. 0 risk plex farmers are entosis trollceptors on steroids, because core plexing mechanics allow that.

the only way to fight a plex farmer is either with another plex farmer or through griefing, you follow him so long around till he gives up. Both are not fun game styles IMO which is part of FW's reputation issue.

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value

Republic University Minmatar Republic 151
Aerasia Republic University Minmatar Republic Likes received: 151	#23 - 2015-07-17 05:56:44 UTC Bienator II wrote: Even nullsec has it done right this time and defensive entosing costs a fraction of the time as offensive entosing - not the case in FW. Wait.... is O-plex farming really a problem where you live? I would think letting the D-plex farmer chill with his BC NPC buddy on a reduced timer is the exact opposite of what you want.

Cheyenne HET Co 659
Shiloh Templeton Cheyenne HET Co Likes received: 659	#24 - 2015-07-17 13:36:59 UTC 1 OP, looking for something like this? The battle of Kehjari

Naga Elohim

Aeras Krekan Syndicate

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#25 - 2015-07-17 13:43:20 UTC | Edited by: Naga Elohim

Just from reading the OP...

It seems like he is frustrated that people have evolved and figured out how to evade him and at the same time, engage in care bear activities...in low security space.

Everyone cries about "ADAPT OR DIE" but when people finally adapt and start playing the game, you hear things like:

"Waaaah!!! Stop putting on warp core stabs..how can I catch you in my T1 frigate? Wheres my one sided battles? Waaaah!!"

Well sir you cannot have your cake and eat it too. Also you are probably in the worst space for faction warfare. Last time I heard Caldari and Gallente FW is hot stuff.

But then what do I know....I am a low sec carebear myself...

Moira. 655
Thanatos Marathon Moira. Likes received: 655	#26 - 2015-07-17 14:40:00 UTC Move to Gal/Cal space, and not backwater farming system. JUSTK is recruiting

Demerius Xenocratus

The Scope

Gallente Federation

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#27 - 2015-07-17 18:45:12 UTC

Paranoid Loyd wrote:

Kelemen Rakka wrote:

I've been activly looking for a fight for the last 5 hours.

Kelemen Rakka wrote:

my Slicers

Here is your problem, change ships and more people will be willing to fight you.

If the slicer has to warp into the plex to engage, you should be able to land web/scram before he burns out of range, in which case he is dead shortly thereafter. I get pretty excited when I see a slicer on short and I'm inside a plex in a brawler because I'm immediately thinking "free navy frigate killmail."

Any other navy ship is a more daunting opponent because I can't know their fit in advance.

I would say the problem is not his hull choice but rather 1) the prevalence of risk averse pvp reliant on blobbing/links/faction mods, implants/pirate hulls SEEMS to have led to a decrease in people like me who just fly around in a T1 or navy boat alone looking for the gudfites. And 2) minmatar/Amarr FW seems to have a reputation as being less active than the cal/gal zone. My last visits to that area I have also struggled to find fights outside of the pirate home systems which are full of the aforementioned blobs/links/snakes/pimpfit worms.

Recommendation? Try Black Rise. The area around Asakai is home to some linky/blobby calmil but I've been getting good fights in Sujarento, Nagamanen, Tama, Kedama and surrounding systems.

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Aves Asio Likes received: 70	#28 - 2015-07-18 01:15:55 UTC Jeah just go to Tama. All the solo pvpers go there for content, for best results come through norvo, instant content.

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Darth Terona Horde Vanguard. Pandemic Horde Likes received: 309	#29 - 2015-07-18 01:56:07 UTC Confirming tama is the ****


Demerius Xenocratus The Scope Gallente Federation Likes received: 815	#30 - 2015-07-18 18:58:19 UTC Aves Asio wrote: Jeah just go to Tama. All the solo pvpers go there for content, for best results come through norvo, instant content. Literally, insta-locking high alpha content. Use another gate.

Daemun Khanid

Corbeau de sang

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#31 - 2015-07-25 05:25:27 UTC

Met more winner's like the op tonight. Neutrals complaining about a lack of fights in FW zone. I engage a "solo" low sec status incursus only to watch as he brings in his 3 highsec neutral buddies. I break off and disengage as they land and then they start whining that a. militia are all carebears and won't fight, b. that I'm lame because they can't catch and kill me... the failed logic some of these people possess is mind blowing. Do they go to mcdonalds w no money and then complain that they can't have their happy meals for free? Who on earth is responsible for raising these kids?

Daemun of Khanid


Darth Terona Horde Vanguard. Pandemic Horde Likes received: 309	#32 - 2015-07-25 05:36:52 UTC I'm wondering if you could have stayed on grid and separated them ;)

Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 3,799
Tipa Riot Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation Likes received: 3,799	#33 - 2015-07-25 06:07:34 UTC \| Edited by: Tipa Riot I had some success roaming in an Executioner also against faction ships, but you have to pick your fights carefully and you should be close to maxed out skill-wise for your fit. It's true, the outcome of most fights is decided before they start, so you always want to be the one taking the decision. I'm my own NPC alt.


Daemun Khanid Corbeau de sang Likes received: 715	#34 - 2015-07-25 06:13:34 UTC Darth Terona wrote: I'm wondering if you could have stayed on grid and separated them ;) I stayed a grid for a couple minutes to see if any would give chase but no such luck. They just balled up on the acc. gate and started complaining. Daemun of Khanid

Daerrol

Republic University

Minmatar Republic

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#35 - 2015-07-26 09:10:54 UTC | Edited by: Daerrol

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Lulu Lunette Savage Moon Society Likes received: 1,710	#36 - 2015-07-26 12:17:24 UTC FW sounds interesting but I fear the hits in faction standings .. @lunettelulu7

Crisis Atmosphere Coalition of the Unfortunate 1,870
Sentient Blade Crisis Atmosphere Coalition of the Unfortunate Likes received: 1,870	#37 - 2015-07-26 12:36:16 UTC Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Marcus Alexzander wrote: I WANTS FIGHTS! BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! Well, if there was a Whine God, his altar would be overfull at this point. Would you like some **** with that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pTRIqhkMHY&t=12

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Herzyr Ministry of War Amarr Empire Likes received: 44	#38 - 2015-07-26 19:57:19 UTC Hey, whats wrong with a free kill or some free LP? If I were you, I would gladly take a plex without resistance, but if we are talking about good fights, well, I'm pretty sure everyone knows that they aren't very common but boy they are always stuck on your mind. I call this a case of nomnoming the good with the bad....