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McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
#121 - 2015-07-16 04:35:09 UTC  |  Edited by: McChicken Combo HalfMayo
flakeys wrote:
at least i try to have some feelings towards the use of punctuation , proper grammar and the use of capitals at the start of a sentence.
I will take your word on that and assume you have been drinking for the duration of this thread.

There are all our dominion

Gate camps: "Its like the lowsec watercooler, just with explosions and boose" - Ralph King-Griffin
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#122 - 2015-07-16 08:51:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Lan Wang wrote:
when i dont want to socialise in a game....i play a single player game.....if i wanna be social then i play online.....can you please stop the 90% bullsh!t because that is just a number you made up to inflate your ego


you missuse a game with socializing, 90% of the people come home after work where they had to interact with a ton of People, had to go through a hundred mails each day, worst case they have a Familie at home where they need to socially interact in addition although the already had enough for the day because of their work... next thing they just want to play a game and guess what, not interact socially AGAIN... if you don't have a Job nothing to do and Need somebody to talk to cool, there is reddit there is Facebook, go there, a game should concentrate on gaming however, thats why People come here

I guarantee you, Subs are going down because of the extreme social interaction they have to do in this game, it was cool some 10-15 years ago but today, times changed, social interaction is too much, People start to flee from that

the game Needs to be playable in all Areas especially fleeting up without using coms and stuff, nobody wants that anymore, its cool to have it in addition for friends that can Play together and still want it, but its not for the average gamer, it won't work if CCP want to grow the business they Need to make it possibe to play with people without the coms and Kids talking trash all the time

the fleeting tool i suggest with the UI button system for FC to easy command their fleets will make it happen

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#123 - 2015-07-16 08:52:42 UTC
stopped reading at 90%....

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#124 - 2015-07-16 08:55:27 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
stopped reading at 90%....


its ok its not for you anyway, you don't understand it.. its for the devs who read the forums

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#125 - 2015-07-16 09:10:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
Harry Forever wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
stopped reading at 90%....


its ok its not for you anyway, you don't understand it.. its for the devs who read the forums


I understand it perfectly fine, you're a liar and make up false stats to make your argument sound relevant

But as ive said i support it and i will happily lead a fleet shitfit carebear ships into a bubble of smartbombing battleships

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#126 - 2015-07-16 09:38:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Lan Wang wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
stopped reading at 90%....


its ok its not for you anyway, you don't understand it.. its for the devs who read the forums


I understand it perfectly fine, you're a liar and make up false stats to make your argument sound relevant

But as ive said i support it and i will happily lead a fleet shitfit carebear ships into a bubble of smartbombing battleships


you will be unable to use the tool as FC because of the FC Point System, sorry you will not get people in your FC Queue because of your bad decisions, only good FCs will be able to use it and get people queued up in their fleet

your FC stats and experience will put you at the end of the queue

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#127 - 2015-07-16 09:41:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
Harry Forever wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
stopped reading at 90%....


its ok its not for you anyway, you don't understand it.. its for the devs who read the forums


I understand it perfectly fine, you're a liar and make up false stats to make your argument sound relevant

But as ive said i support it and i will happily lead a fleet shitfit carebear ships into a bubble of smartbombing battleships


you will be unable to use the tool as FC because of the FC Point System, sorry you will not get people in your FC Queue because of your bad decisions, only good FCs will be able to use it and get people queued up in their fleet


Good fc's use comms, ill just farm fc points on an alt, cant be that hard to fc by pushing a few ui buttons huh i mean your whole idea is for lazy uneducated people so it will be exploited easily by non lazy and educated people.

but out of curiosity who exactly awards these glorious fc points?

doesnt matter what you say you have no real solution to being awoxed in such creative ways, awoxers have more brains than you

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#128 - 2015-07-16 09:52:42 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
stopped reading at 90%....


its ok its not for you anyway, you don't understand it.. its for the devs who read the forums


I understand it perfectly fine, you're a liar and make up false stats to make your argument sound relevant

But as ive said i support it and i will happily lead a fleet shitfit carebear ships into a bubble of smartbombing battleships


you will be unable to use the tool as FC because of the FC Point System, sorry you will not get people in your FC Queue because of your bad decisions, only good FCs will be able to use it and get people queued up in their fleet


Good fc's use comms, ill just farm fc points on an alt, cant be that hard to fc by pushing a few ui buttons huh i mean your whole idea is for lazy uneducated people so it will be exploited easily by non lazy and educated people.

but out of curiosity who exactly awards these glorious fc points?

doesnt matter what you say you have no real solution to being awoxed in such creative ways, awoxers have more brains than you


good you finally support the tool, thanks

try hard to earn fc points by improving your fc stats basically based on how many you lost in your fleet vs. how many you killed

you might endup on top of the queue someday if you are doing a good job

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#129 - 2015-07-16 10:04:16 UTC
ah so i can just farm fc points with a load of alts, then when my fc points are high i can just welp a big fleet and throw the alt away or grind back the points, sounds great.

think you should play something else more suited to your playstyle.

im done here this is about as stupid as the pve fatigue thread

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Etara Silverblade
Morex Group Inc.
Haven.
#130 - 2015-07-16 10:11:10 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
I understand it perfectly fine, you're a liar and make up false stats to make your argument sound relevant


Studies suggest that fake stats are just as good as real ones and besides, 80% of all stats are made up.

I can't believe this thread is still going. No one wants this because no one would want to fly or FC fail fleets. And if only new players joined in they would die fast and loose interest which is counter productive.

Move on, find another failed cause.
FireFrenzy
Cynosural Samurai
#131 - 2015-07-16 10:26:59 UTC
Okay i am going to try one more time to explain the concept of eve to @OP...

If you want big fights, join a big nullsec block provi and goons are about to start roflstomping on eachother, pandemic is taking a big ass fleet down to go stomp on black legion... RVB is always recruiting...

You CANNOT think "i dont want to interact with any of you people" and "i want to be in a b-r analog fight" are things you can both have... I mean surely you see that eve is a game defined by social bonds between people...

Hell when a PL(if memory serves he was PL) FCs fleet commander's pc died he gofundme'd a new one and had donations from people he's -10 with because well he's the enemy but waging war on someone is only fun if they fight back.

You're being silly on the same levels as people who go "I dont like soccer or have any talent for it, or even watch agames on TV but i do want to play for Real Madrid or inter milan." You cant "not want to participate" in the metagame and at the same time demand a spot at the table. You must see how utterly rediculous that is??

Failing that i feel these images are both approriate and expain my point:

http://i.imgur.com/mGYgLG8.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/nv8rjuE.png
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#132 - 2015-07-16 11:05:51 UTC
no typical gamer is on forums, its just people who enjoy talking more then the gaming... its ok for me that those particular people do not understand my topic, however its strange that they think they are everybody... they are just a tiny fraction of people

you focus will always just be the talking and not the game itself and how to improve it, talking is most important to you guys, and that needs to be shutdown in favour of gameplay

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Iain Cariaba
#133 - 2015-07-16 15:26:51 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
no typical gamer is on forums, its just people who enjoy talking more then the gaming...

Prove this.

Harry Forever wrote:
its ok for me that those particular people do not understand my topic, however its strange that they think they are everybody... they are just a tiny fraction of people

Just as you are one out of many, ergo a tiny fraction.

Harry Forever wrote:
you focus will always just be the talking and not the game itself and how to improve it, talking is most important to you guys, and that needs to be shutdown in favour of gameplay

One simple fact you're overlooking: the gameplay of EvE involves interacting with other people.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#134 - 2015-07-16 15:30:56 UTC
yeah he contradicts himself "i dont want to be social, i dont want to talk to anyone in a game" yet here he is talking on the forums... "no typical gamer is on forums, its just people who enjoy talking more then the gaming..." again he is here sprouting off junk he made up and offering features on a discussion forum...fml

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
FireFrenzy
Cynosural Samurai
#135 - 2015-07-16 15:53:43 UTC
that and i think my what 3.8k hours i have on Frenzy means i do enjoy playing... And the fact that she has been subbed nigh continously since january 08...

@OP reference imgur links and internalize the information within
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#136 - 2015-07-16 17:24:22 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
I thought about it, how could you integrade somekind of fleet system to assure everybody can join a fleet fast and easy with random people

it needs to use the basic priciple of a matchmaking system that is used for other games as well

the idea is the following, create 5-10 hubs (systems) in the game where you can enter a fleetmaking queue

it would work like this, I decide to put together a random fleet, so i enter as FC, other players are matched to my fleet automatically over the fleetmaking system when they decided to join, the queue allocates the players into my fleet, done, the fleet is ready

not bullshit teamspeak no nothing everybody who wants to go into a random fleet just uses this fleet system in those 5-10 stations all over new eden (communication done with special UI buttons, read further below)

i would suggest 5 in highsec 5 in nullsec

additional things could be added, open fleets where players can join easy if they see them flyby, for safety reason fleetmembers in those special fleets should not be able to shoot eachother, including a timer when they leave the fleet

communication could happen over eve voice or simple UI buttons that everybody sees, primary, warpto, help, bubbleup, Icons could popup over the fleetmember when you press one of the Buttons

many people get tired of social interaction because there is just too much happening, with this system you still could join some fun fleets without the social hickups and enjoy the game



An idead that clearly comes from someone that have never been in a fleet.

Sorry, but go try the thing a bit before you can make any judgement on that.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Spectre 666
Doomheim
#137 - 2015-07-16 17:53:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Spectre 666
i think this is a good idea but if you are not using coms you are going to get eaten even if you outnumber your opponents 10 to 1.

That being said i know form playing wow that people learn who they should and should not group with and the idea would work itself out to some degree at least and even if you got in a bad fleet and got whipped, well you spurred on the economy, so cheers for you.

your idea would need some refinement be the core idea is sound.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#138 - 2015-07-16 18:01:40 UTC
Spectre 666 wrote:
i think this is a good idea but if you are not using coms you are going to get eaten even if you outnumber your opponents 10 to 1.

That being said i know form playing wow that people learn who they should and should not group with and the idea would work itself out to some degree at least and even if you got un a bad fleet and got whipped, well you spurred on the economy, so cheers for you.

your idea would need smoe refinement be the core idea is sound.


thats what I mean, it should just attract the average gamer to assure there is easy way to find fleets and stuff, it does not matter if they are not able to match a group of professional players, they still can fly around and get their 1 or 2 kills in a easy way, I'm pretty sure a UI button system to command players would be sufficient to have the fleet work at least to have some fun... just for those who are tired to listen to coms, many are out there and they need to be attracted to the game to refresh the univers with new souls

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Juan Mileghere
Meta Zero
Meta Reloaded
#139 - 2015-07-16 18:12:28 UTC
So you're not the average kind of gamer because you're on the forums but you claim to be doing this for them...

Blobbing Explained
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#140 - 2015-07-16 18:17:21 UTC
Juan Mileghere wrote:
So you're not the average kind of gamer because you're on the forums but you claim to be doing this for them...


no I'm not, I'm the 1% of gamers that come to forums to bring up ideas and fight through hordes of infidel

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm