Player Features and Ideas Discussion

then why are you scared of random fleets with my fleet system? its just to get some random players to easy join fleets... you still can compete your way you know, no need to get worried if you have the best sollution to form a fleet right?

for random fleets you need a no fleet member shoot mechanic

Oh come on now! Arguments failing, you are trying random insults and provocation now. I think it's a stupid idea - that doesn't mean I am scared. Random fleets exist, and they work, and I am not scared of them either. What you propose is just unneccessary and wouldn't work.

i actually support this idea now after thinking of how great it would be to have random cannon fodder at your disposal

And you know what? Automatic grouping is what was the nail in my personal WoW's coffin.

Meanwhile, I'm surprised that OP managed to farm several pages of responses by posting what is basically "let's get together with random people with no common goal and purpose in mind for no reason".

I can't even wrap my head around it, moreso - post a coherent reply to that.

Trust me OP, games that specifically do arenas as way better at it than EVE will ever be, but it's okay. It's not about that.
I'm just surprised you continue to push for the idea for years.


You will crush? And those 30 people in ships from D3s to Punishers will listen to you because?..

Harry Forever outed himself as a superficially thinking, self centered instant gratification addict.

More news at 11.


What a waste of oxygen.

Not for long. Eventually the dumb, mindless masses will make sure that stops.

Without coms, your 30 player random group would be spread out over 15 different systems. The 10 people who actually managed to be in the same system as the FC wouldnt even scratch the paint of any target because they have no focus fire and cant break the enemy repair while your fleed most likeley does not even have a logi.

Just look at WoWs LFR. Random groups, half AFK are running through Bosses that are so oversimplyfied, that a coordinated 10 man group can do those. The content has to be so damm easy, because random groups without TS cant handly anything more difficult.

The only reason why it works in ramdom BGs is : There are usually the same ammount of idiots on both sides.

With Harold Eternal, I am never quite sure. It's more than just possible he's dead serious about this.

Nobody is butthurt. But let me explain why it is a terrible idea to implement a game mechanic that everyone but you thinks will not work:

It will most likely not work.

"Ok, so it doesn't work - it's still worth a try" I hear you say. But that's not the case:

1 - Spending time developing a mechanic, that we all (except you) know will be terribad is a stupid idea. That time should be spend developing something we (or anybody, for that matter) can actually use.

2 - New players will log into the game, find a broken, terrible game mechanic, log out and never touch the game again. This already happens far too often, don't expand on that.

3 - Eve is a social game. Trying to take away from the social gameplay is tlike trying to take away the spaceships.


I don't expect you to understand this, since you clearly stated that you would rather watch a bot play the game for you instead of playing the game, but believe me - if everybody tells you, that something is a bad idea, it may just be a bad idea.