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Accessible Fleet Battles for Everybody

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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#1 - 2015-07-15 11:30:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
I thought about it, how could you integrade somekind of fleet system to assure everybody can join a fleet fast and easy with random people

it needs to use the basic priciple of a matchmaking system that is used for other games as well

the idea is the following, create 5-10 hubs (systems) in the game where you can enter a fleetmaking queue

it would work like this, I decide to put together a random fleet, so i enter as FC, other players are matched to my fleet automatically over the fleetmaking system when they decided to join, the queue allocates the players into my fleet, done, the fleet is ready

not bullshit teamspeak no nothing everybody who wants to go into a random fleet just uses this fleet system in those 5-10 stations all over new eden (communication done with special UI buttons, read further below)

i would suggest 5 in highsec 5 in nullsec

additional things could be added, open fleets where players can join easy if they see them flyby, for safety reason fleetmembers in those special fleets should not be able to shoot eachother, including a timer when they leave the fleet

communication could happen over eve voice or simple UI buttons that everybody sees, primary, warpto, help, bubbleup, Icons could popup over the fleetmember when you press one of the Buttons

many people get tired of social interaction because there is just too much happening, with this system you still could join some fun fleets without the social hickups and enjoy the game
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2015-07-15 11:34:50 UTC
Great idea, Harry! Put some random people in a fleet without the need to ever talk to each other - what could possibly go wrong?
Jeanne Tivianne
#3 - 2015-07-15 11:36:27 UTC
This thread is going places.







No WoW-style raids/grouping please.
Zieg Olexia
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2015-07-15 11:37:11 UTC
This. Isn't. World Of Warcraft.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#5 - 2015-07-15 11:38:47 UTC
Neuntausend wrote:
Great idea, Harry! Put some random people in a fleet without the need to ever talk to each other - what could possibly go wrong?


nothing, basic communication should be done over UI Buttons, ist also more a fun approach to fleetup, for sure People in Teams would be better but for randoms it would be a fun way to just join a fleet and see what happens

the system could create some mass fleets easy, pretty sure it would work, random people are put together in other games as well, it would not be tactically the best Team for sure but, fun along the way is what counts
Etara Silverblade
Morex Group Inc.
Haven.
#6 - 2015-07-15 11:39:07 UTC
What you're looking for is Spectre Fleets. Fleets for anyone. Just join and go shoot others.

Check it out: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/community-spotlight-spectre-fleets/
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2015-07-15 11:41:12 UTC
Etara Silverblade wrote:
What you're looking for is Spectre Fleets. Fleets for anyone. Just join and go shoot others.

Check it out: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/community-spotlight-spectre-fleets/


does not work for 90% of the gamers, too complicated, a matchmaking system is needed to fleet the randoms up
Zieg Olexia
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2015-07-15 11:42:24 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Neuntausend wrote:
Great idea, Harry! Put some random people in a fleet without the need to ever talk to each other - what could possibly go wrong?


nothing, basic communication should be done over UI Buttons, ist also more a fun approach to fleetup, for sure People in Teams would be better but for randoms it would be a fun way to just join a fleet and see what happens

the system could create some mass fleets easy, pretty sure it would work, random people are put together in other games as well, it would not be tactically the best Team for sure but, fun along the way is what counts


Sure. Lets do 5v5 setups. We'll have instance based battlegrounds, Just like WoW. And the winners get officer mod rewards!


pleaseburninthefierydepthsofhell.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#9 - 2015-07-15 11:43:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
Harry Forever wrote:
Etara Silverblade wrote:
What you're looking for is Spectre Fleets. Fleets for anyone. Just join and go shoot others.

Check it out: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/community-spotlight-spectre-fleets/


does not work for 90% of the gamers, too complicated, a matchmaking system is needed to fleet the randoms up


gawd how easy do you want it? i doubt 90% of the gamers think its too complicated, more like 1.3%...

matchmaking is just too easy and teaches you nothing about the game, if you think joining a fleet is too complicated i dread to see you fit a ship

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-07-15 11:45:45 UTC
We don't want instant gratification bottomfeeders around. We already have those from reddit infecting the game. More features for these zombies will only make the game worse, because they will demand more and more instant gratification without ever really playing the game.

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE

Rogue AI
Doomheim
#11 - 2015-07-15 11:47:49 UTC
Neuntausend wrote:
Great idea, Harry! Put some random people in a fleet without the need to ever talk to each other - what could possibly go wrong?


Who cares if it goes wrong? At least they might have some fun in the process.
Brutus Utama
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2015-07-15 11:48:27 UTC
ok....

Spectre Fleet.....

same idea but implemented better.
Davis TetrisKing
The Vendunari
End of Life
#13 - 2015-07-15 11:49:26 UTC
Pretty sure what your asking for is the fleet finder window.

Just remember this is Eve though, not Wow, so you don't get to be all safe with you're 'can't shoot each other' business. And it's a sandbox so don't expect them to setup little battle arenas for you, or fleet comps, or 'matchmaking', or any other guided BS.

Don't come crying to me when you get suicide ganked from joining that open 'mining' fleet though.
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2015-07-15 11:49:28 UTC
Rogue AI wrote:
Neuntausend wrote:
Great idea, Harry! Put some random people in a fleet without the need to ever talk to each other - what could possibly go wrong?


Who cares if it goes wrong? At least they might have some fun in the process.

Hi Al! Fun is not the centerpoint of all activity, even if there are many zombies out there who have nothing but that left in their lives. Instant gratification is a drug and these people are addicts, with all the consequences it has.

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE

Etara Silverblade
Morex Group Inc.
Haven.
#15 - 2015-07-15 11:49:39 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Etara Silverblade wrote:
What you're looking for is Spectre Fleets. Fleets for anyone. Just join and go shoot others.

Check it out: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/community-spotlight-spectre-fleets/


does not work for 90% of the gamers, too complicated, a matchmaking system is needed to fleet the randoms up



Not only would I not want to fly with someone who can't figure out how to join a fleet, I don't think I want to play in the same MMO with them. Eve is a complex game, you need to learn a lot to have maximum fun and if you can't be bothered then leave; go play WoW.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#16 - 2015-07-15 11:50:57 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Etara Silverblade wrote:
What you're looking for is Spectre Fleets. Fleets for anyone. Just join and go shoot others.

Check it out: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/community-spotlight-spectre-fleets/


does not work for 90% of the gamers, too complicated, a matchmaking system is needed to fleet the randoms up


gawd how easy do you want it? i doubt 90% of the gamers think its too complicated, more like 1.3%...

matchmaking is just too easy and teaches you nothing about the game, if you think joining a fleet is too complicated i dread to see you fit a ship


everything a computer can do for you should not be done by humans anymore, we made computers to do stuff so we can concentrate on other things... organizing fleets and stuff is just boring repetitive, a fleetmaking system could do it for you much better

sometimes it feels you guys like to do boring stuff and do not want a computer or program to handle those things, are you worried your mind has to concentrate on more important matters when the computer takes care of the easy stuff?
Zieg Olexia
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#17 - 2015-07-15 11:54:11 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Etara Silverblade wrote:
What you're looking for is Spectre Fleets. Fleets for anyone. Just join and go shoot others.

Check it out: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/community-spotlight-spectre-fleets/


does not work for 90% of the gamers, too complicated, a matchmaking system is needed to fleet the randoms up


gawd how easy do you want it? i doubt 90% of the gamers think its too complicated, more like 1.3%...

matchmaking is just too easy and teaches you nothing about the game, if you think joining a fleet is too complicated i dread to see you fit a ship


everything a computer can do for you should not be done by humans anymore, we made computers to do stuff so we can concentrate on other things... organizing fleets and stuff is just boring repetitive, a fleetmaking system could do it for you much better

sometimes it feels you guys like to do boring stuff and do not want a computer or program to handle those things, are you worried your mind has to concentrate on more important matters when the computer takes care of the easy stuff?



I can't even ******* take you seriously anymore.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2015-07-15 11:54:28 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Neuntausend wrote:
Great idea, Harry! Put some random people in a fleet without the need to ever talk to each other - what could possibly go wrong?


nothing, basic communication should be done over UI Buttons, ist also more a fun approach to fleetup, for sure People in Teams would be better but for randoms it would be a fun way to just join a fleet and see what happens

the system could create some mass fleets easy, pretty sure it would work, random people are put together in other games as well, it would not be tactically the best Team for sure but, fun along the way is what counts


Fleet commander wants fast ships, dudes bring dual-plated Megathrons. Fleet commander wants armor tank, dudes bring shield tank. That is of course, if there even is an FC, because nobody will want to FC this clusterfuck of random dudes. In the same vein, nobody ever will bring boosts or logistics, because the fleet will be mixed range, mixed prop, mixed tank kitchensink anyway. Apart from that ... Spies, Cyno Alts, even just a single Dictor could **** up a fleet real bad.I think it could be hilarious for a while, but I don't think it would get used much after the first few welps.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#19 - 2015-07-15 11:57:24 UTC
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
We don't want instant gratification bottomfeeders around. We already have those from reddit infecting the game. More features for these zombies will only make the game worse, because they will demand more and more instant gratification without ever really playing the game.


so you don't like to use a computer because it makes stuff easier for you? you like to keep it complicated on the easy things so you don't need to think about the complicated matters at hand... got it

my idea is to get rid of boring stuff, to be able to concentrate on the gameplay
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#20 - 2015-07-15 11:58:22 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Etara Silverblade wrote:
What you're looking for is Spectre Fleets. Fleets for anyone. Just join and go shoot others.

Check it out: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/community-spotlight-spectre-fleets/


does not work for 90% of the gamers, too complicated, a matchmaking system is needed to fleet the randoms up


gawd how easy do you want it? i doubt 90% of the gamers think its too complicated, more like 1.3%...

matchmaking is just too easy and teaches you nothing about the game, if you think joining a fleet is too complicated i dread to see you fit a ship


everything a computer can do for you should not be done by humans anymore, we made computers to do stuff so we can concentrate on other things... organizing fleets and stuff is just boring repetitive, a fleetmaking system could do it for you much better

sometimes it feels you guys like to do boring stuff and do not want a computer or program to handle those things, are you worried your mind has to concentrate on more important matters when the computer takes care of the easy stuff?


making a fleet isnt boring, suppose you want the system to fc for you too, maybe you want the system to pick primaries and shoot also, its never ending and before you kow it you are afk eve'ing, no we dont need the computer making everything easier for people, people still need to do something otherwise its all pointless

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

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