EVE General Discussion

As much as I would love a mining revamp and a whole list of other things, I believe that team missions are what would help EVE the most.

Constructed correctly, there would be:
- Mechanics that require more than one player, e.g. two items that need to be hacked at the same time in a limited time or a new wave of AI appears with a new trick on each failure
- Enough reward to tempt new players into them but not enough for them to be farmed day in and day out.
- A limit on ship types through the jump gates.
- Careful testing on possible tanks and damage so that logistics are required.
- AI that would be affected by all types of e-war
- A range of difficulties from T1 frigates and upward.
- Solid integration with a tutorial system, giving some explanation on what and why things are needed.

... and I am sure you see where this is leading.

1) People learning to work in teams with good compositions, the game teaching them some very basic PVP skills.
2) People having an incentive to reach out and get to know each other, form groups, corps and alliances that can grow.

Social spider webs are what really glue players to this game and I think team missions are the best way to wrap them in those sticky threads, early.

Please, CCP, pave the way ready for some focused target marketing to find fertile ground.

Edit:

If mission runners were looking for teamwork and interaction they'd have chosen a different path. Not saying I'm against the idea as such, it's a good idea, but realistically it's not going to change anything at all unless they make all lvl 4 missions that way so that lvl 3 becomes the default solo option and lvl 4 is effectively forced teamwork.

pve doesnt have a restriction to only 1 player so nothing stopping people from fleeting up to do pve regardless of the age, people just dont want to.

I like it.

I immediately thought about lvl5's and incursions as well, but saw your reply and I agree they're not really suited for n00bies.
Another point would be the alt thing. Im not against it at all, but most use that ability to "solo-team" things, so a new concept would need mechanics preventing it. The simultaneous hacking within a time frame is a good one.

At he moment you can always team up for lvl4's for example, so it needs to be a bit different from that as well.

My only concern is it replacing current content. That would be a shame imo. I'd prefer this kind of thing as another option. That way we can also collect some forum tears from solodudes feeling "left out" every now and then.

There is already new group content for explorers. Beside some niche activities, PvE in EvE is there to make ISK, not to learn something, IMO. Maybe Dagan can be promoted to be an actual threat or you can add some more tough NPCs into the mission arcs, but this won't replace the training through real PvP encounters (also there is always SiSi). Group PvE if it's not for ISK is a waste of playtime, IMO.

Personally I would much rather have more burner type missions, but instead of the NPCs being the same every time they are random within ship classes, and they are fit randomly with pvp weaponry.

Imagine having to go into a fight with an NPC where you had to scram them, and worry about whether they are SDing or Webbing or Neuting, and having no idea if that Vagabond Angel you are fighting is short or long range... That would be awesome.

Epic Arcs aren't reused enough to devote developer time to them.
We need more solutions that keep new players over an extended time and help shoe horn them into playing the game such that they don't get slaughtered a few times and spend the rest of their game time avoiding fights until they quit.

Instead of forcing teaming up they should get rid of stupid requirement to dock in order to request and finish missions (with exceptions of course when mission requires picking up or dropping an item).

Second thing: sharing mission location. Make it so I could drag mission icon or whatever to chat and everybody who clicks it can warp to mission. With being able to get/finish missions in space and easy sharing mission location everybody in fleet could pull missions, share them and whole fleet could just binge on them.

Would it boost farmers and multiboxers? Sure, but it would make life easier for "normal" players. Docking/undocking/warping to person who has a mission to be fleet warped to mission pocket - it all takes time, is mundane and frakking boring.

Get rid of boring parts and people will team up organically because there will be more fun/minute.

I believe the drifter wormholes have team elements (dual hacking). Also ghost sites tend to need more than 1 person to get all of the loot.

The issue tends to be trust.

this can be expanded, but unfortunately many people would rather log in an alt and dual box a team mission to get the extra reward than actually team up with someone.

It all depends on structure.

But that logic is dangerous. Following that logic, we should have PvP arenas that you can queue for, because why co-ordinate fleets and roams if a set of mechanics can organize fights for us?

It inherently goes against the idea of a sandbox.