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Lets have a Mining Revamp Devs!?

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TigerXtrm
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2015-07-15 12:23:26 UTC
2006 called, they want their ideas back.

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Keno Skir
#62 - 2015-07-15 12:23:44 UTC
Kestral Anneto wrote:
not really, whats it matter to you how someone else plays the game? they are doing a vital service that keeps the game turning.
I mine everything, gas, ore and ice. I also do PvP, who cares how i play? why dont you CODE people mind your own crap and stay out of how other people play?


I literally just explained about CODE a few posts up. Are you deliberately ignoring the information so you can repeatedly ask why CODE want to sh*t in your cereal?
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#63 - 2015-07-15 12:32:49 UTC
Kestral Anneto wrote:
why dont you CODE people mind your own crap and stay out of how other people play?


This isn't even almost funny, it's outright hilarious.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Kestral Anneto
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#64 - 2015-07-15 12:35:03 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Kestral Anneto wrote:
why dont you CODE people mind your own crap and stay out of how other people play?


This isn't even almost funny, it's outright hilarious.


why? what gives you the right to decide who's play style is correct?
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#65 - 2015-07-15 12:36:08 UTC
Kestral Anneto wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Kestral Anneto wrote:
why dont you CODE people mind your own crap and stay out of how other people play?


This isn't even almost funny, it's outright hilarious.


why? what gives you the right to decide who's play style is correct?


The Savior of Highsec, of course.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Fugly Isktaker
Doomheim
#66 - 2015-07-15 12:37:18 UTC
Exhumers now get automatic CONCORD escort.

/thread
Kestral Anneto
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#67 - 2015-07-15 12:38:39 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Kestral Anneto wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Kestral Anneto wrote:
why dont you CODE people mind your own crap and stay out of how other people play?


This isn't even almost funny, it's outright hilarious.


why? what gives you the right to decide who's play style is correct?


The Savior of Highsec, of course.


funnily enough, i dont live in highsec, i despise highsec and think that the only thing concord should protect are the trade hub and surrounding systems. that does not give ANYONE the right to dictate to anyone else, the 'saviour' of highsec can swing, most likely from his over inflated ego, why doint you come out to null and try to take some sov?
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#68 - 2015-07-15 12:38:45 UTC
Kestral Anneto wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Kestral Anneto wrote:
why dont you CODE people mind your own crap and stay out of how other people play?


This isn't even almost funny, it's outright hilarious.


why? what gives you the right to decide who's play style is correct?

Please stop that nonsense. The game allows others to do it, therefore they have the right to do it. It is a game! The community as a whole is long past these discussions. If you don't like it, figure out anway around it. Victims get crushed in EVE, that's the game.

2012 called and they want their nonsense back!

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE

Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2015-07-15 12:39:40 UTC
Kestral Anneto wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Kestral Anneto wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Kestral Anneto wrote:
why dont you CODE people mind your own crap and stay out of how other people play?


This isn't even almost funny, it's outright hilarious.


why? what gives you the right to decide who's play style is correct?


The Savior of Highsec, of course.


funnily enough, i dont live in highsec, i despise highsec and think that the only thing concord should protect are the trade hub and surrounding systems. that does not give ANYONE the right to dictate to anyone else, the 'saviour' of highsec can swing, most likely from his over inflated ego, why doint you come out to null and try to take some sov?

Look who can't differentiate between game and reality...

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE

Kestral Anneto
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#70 - 2015-07-15 12:40:08 UTC
Fugly Isktaker wrote:
Exhumers now get automatic CONCORD escort.

/thread


and what would that solve? it would push even more players to afk, i'd like mining to become more active with more ships including a capital to mine with.
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
CODE.
#71 - 2015-07-15 12:41:23 UTC
Kestral Anneto wrote:
seriously CODE, please just leave the thread, we all know you all would be happier if nothing was player made and it all just magically spawned out of no where, like every other game out there.
We are talking about wanting to revamp mining as a whole, not just in highsec, so please, if you are not going to actively contribute, then please just leave and let other people with actual imput to the topic at hand have a decent and rational conversation.

EDIT:- Lets get back on topic here, this isn't about using procurers or skiffs in highsec, or CODE's circle jerking.

Calm down miner! How can you even consider a discussion about mining without involving the official Highsec mining authority? That's just silly.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#72 - 2015-07-15 12:41:33 UTC
Kestral Anneto wrote:
that does not give ANYONE the right to dictate to anyone else


That would be my guns and my warp scrambler. They certainly have that right.


Quote:
why doint you come out to null and try to take some sov?


Why? We're already the sole sov holding alliance for all of highsec. That's a big enough job as it is. There really aren't that many of us, you understand.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Kestral Anneto
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#73 - 2015-07-15 12:43:38 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Kestral Anneto wrote:
seriously CODE, please just leave the thread, we all know you all would be happier if nothing was player made and it all just magically spawned out of no where, like every other game out there.
We are talking about wanting to revamp mining as a whole, not just in highsec, so please, if you are not going to actively contribute, then please just leave and let other people with actual imput to the topic at hand have a decent and rational conversation.

EDIT:- Lets get back on topic here, this isn't about using procurers or skiffs in highsec, or CODE's circle jerking.

Calm down miner! How can you even consider a discussion about mining without involving the official Highsec mining authority? That's just silly.


as i've said, discussions regarding mining should not be dictated by CODE and revolve around highsec.
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#74 - 2015-07-15 12:46:23 UTC
Kestral Anneto wrote:
why dont you CODE people mind your own crap...

But that's exactly what they are doing.

Kestral Anneto wrote:
why? what gives you the right to decide who's play style is correct?

There's no absolute correctness, there's outcome of superposition between different people's decisions and game mechanics.

What we have now is a thread that is a collection of old ideas that never got implemented or even commented on by high-ups. Is it not fair that one doesn't expect a lot of on-topic responses and no derailing?
Kiddoomer
The Red Sequence
#75 - 2015-07-15 12:47:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Kiddoomer
To come back on topic, a mining revamp could have I guess 3 ways to do it :

- New mechanics like comet mining, a way to mine moon goo or even PI actively in space

- New ships, be it a complete rework of the Rorqual or a bigger mining ship than exhumer (not with a bigger yield than Hulk) with one or more useful ability (not boosts)

- More work related to refining or to get bonused (5 and 10%) ores, with a new module working differently or new mining methods (mini-game or something else)

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Lady Areola Fappington
#76 - 2015-07-15 12:47:26 UTC
Kestral Anneto wrote:


why? what gives you the right to decide who's play style is correct?


Well, if you want to get really technical CCP has given me the right to decide who's play style is correct. They do this by giving me the ability to impact another person's play, should I so choose (within the EULA/ToS limits, of course)/


I can decide tomorrow that I no longer wish to see miners flying in the system I have claimed as my home, and as long as I have the means and ability to enforce this action, guess what....miners will not be flying in my home system!

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide

Kestral Anneto
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#77 - 2015-07-15 12:47:57 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Kestral Anneto wrote:
that does not give ANYONE the right to dictate to anyone else


That would be my guns and my warp scrambler. They certainly have that right.


Quote:
why doint you come out to null and try to take some sov?


Why? We're already the sole sov holding alliance for all of highsec. That's a big enough job as it is. There really aren't that many of us, you understand.


your guns and scrams give you the ability to gank and mess with other people. hell, im not even against ganking, what ever floats your boat. Its the sheer sense of entitlement that you CODE people have, its astounding. tell you what though, if CODE actually came into null and took proper sov, rather than deluding yourselfs with this entire highsec sov nonsense, id be willing to listen to you, but not before then.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#78 - 2015-07-15 12:52:50 UTC
Kestral Anneto wrote:

your guns and scrams give you the ability to gank and mess with other people.


Which is precisely why I have the right to do so. There is no difference in a videogame between something that I have the ability to do, and something that I have the right to do.

The ruleset permits it. I have the right to do so.


Quote:
if CODE actually came into null and took proper sov, rather than deluding yourselfs with this entire highsec sov nonsense, id be willing to listen to you, but not before then.


If you could just switch to a different line instead of repeating "go to nullsec", I might get a Miner Bingo. Would you mind mixing it up?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Kestral Anneto
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#79 - 2015-07-15 12:53:01 UTC
Kiddoomer wrote:
To come back on topic, a mining revamp could have I guess 3 ways to do it :

- New mechanics like comet mining, a way to mine moon goo or even PI actively in space

- New ships, be it a complete rework of the Rorqual or a bigger mining ship than exhumer (not with a bigger yield than Hulk) with one or more useful ability (not boosts)

- More work related to refining or to get bonused (5 and 10%) ores, with a new module working differently or new mining methods (mini-game or something else)


the comet mining and moon goo mining ideas would be awesome, i'm not sure about the PI though.
Maybe have introduce a varient of the Rorq that could actively mine moons?
As for new mining ships, i'd like to see mining ships of the three varients on the size of an orca.
I read a thread a while ago regarding an idea that wgen you scanned a rock, it would throw up a heat map of the rock, with the highest densities being marked, so you can actively pick out the bets ore for the rock.
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
CODE.
#80 - 2015-07-15 12:55:40 UTC
Kestral Anneto wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Calm down miner! How can you even consider a discussion about mining without involving the official Highsec mining authority? That's just silly.


as i've said, discussions regarding mining should not be dictated by CODE and revolve around highsec.

It's like you want to build a bridge but ban all the engineers from the planing phase... reconsider!

All I do in the game revolves around mining, I am an expert on the topic (I'm also an elite PvP legend, #74 in 2014). Why would you not embrace such an expert in your important discussion?