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SB's too transparent?
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Zleon Leigh
#1 - 2011-12-07 19:04:17 UTC
Cannot see Manticore while cloaked to the point that I can't figure out direction of travel. Also can't select ship to do info on it or change name. A few other pilots have made the same comments

Was this intended?

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Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#2 - 2011-12-07 19:05:07 UTC
Right click on your capacitor to change name, show info etc...
Thgil Goldcore
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2011-12-07 19:06:28 UTC
Yes, I do believe the 'stealth' part of 'stealth bomber' does betray its supposed to be hard to see.

Its ok though, just blow on our bombers really hard and we're liable to explode.
Zleon Leigh
#4 - 2011-12-07 19:08:54 UTC
Tried that right click before, but it didn't come up. Go figure.

@Thgil - yeah, it supposed to be clear, but we at least had some visual clues before about orientation

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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
#5 - 2011-12-07 19:24:25 UTC
You don't really need to be able to see your ship:
Click on capacitor or in center of screen to access menu (unless you off-set camera).
Double click in space to move in direction of choice.

Related note: Give all cloaks an ever so slight shimmer and distortion of background light visible to anyone observing them.
Automatically balanced by size/distance so it won't be a cloak detection method .. you'd have to know when and where to look .. and it would be the first ever anti-blob mechanic in Eve as masses (read: blobs) of cloaked ships would be easily and readily noticed \o/
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#6 - 2011-12-07 19:27:34 UTC
Zleon Leigh wrote:
Tried that right click before, but it didn't come up. Go figure.

@Thgil - yeah, it supposed to be clear, but we at least had some visual clues before about orientation


Your orientation should be towards the direction you are traveling.

Passive alignment is a myth.

And if you're dropping a bomb while not moving, you're doing it wrong.

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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#7 - 2011-12-07 19:31:45 UTC
Zleon Leigh wrote:
Cannot see Manticore while cloaked to the point that I can't figure out direction of travel.



Don't worry if you're going in the wrong direction you will soon find out as soon as that bomb goes off...
Mia Restolo
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2011-12-07 19:38:16 UTC
Hirana Yoshida wrote:
...

Related note: Give all cloaks an ever so slight shimmer and distortion of background light visible to anyone observing them.
Automatically balanced by size/distance so it won't be a cloak detection method .. you'd have to know when and where to look .. and it would be the first ever anti-blob mechanic in Eve as masses (read: blobs) of cloaked ships would be easily and readily noticed \o/


They used to be like this, people just screwed with their graphics settings until cloaked ships we always easily visible thus making cloaks useless. That's why cloaks actually make you invisible to others now.
Midnight Hope
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2011-12-07 19:49:41 UTC
But the OP has a point.
When your own ship cloaks it is a bit too hard to see. I have to move the point of view a bit to the left and right before it is apparent where it is pointing to. It would be great if they could relax the "cloakiness" of your own ship.

It is fine it totally disappears for everybody else.
Vachir Khan
Rugged Ruff and Ready
#10 - 2011-12-07 19:54:23 UTC
War Kitten wrote:
Passive alignment is a myth.


You'd be surprised how persistent that myth is though, I'm in help channel a lot and people keep droning on about it and no amount of "the game engine sees your ship as points so all that counts is vector, the graphical representation is just that, nothing more" seems to be enough to change their mind.
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#11 - 2011-12-07 19:58:57 UTC
Vachir Khan wrote:
War Kitten wrote:
Passive alignment is a myth.


You'd be surprised how persistent that myth is though, I'm in help channel a lot and people keep droning on about it and no amount of "the game engine sees your ship as points so all that counts is vector, the graphical representation is just that, nothing more" seems to be enough to change their mind.



I know about the ship being a 'point'. Somehow I still have this 'my ship must point the right way or else' sense.
It's just weird. What?
Goose99
#12 - 2011-12-07 20:23:27 UTC
You're not required to zoom all the way out...
Krios Ahzek
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2011-12-07 20:25:43 UTC
Vachir Khan wrote:
War Kitten wrote:
Passive alignment is a myth.


You'd be surprised how persistent that myth is though, I'm in help channel a lot and people keep droning on about it and no amount of "the game engine sees your ship as points so all that counts is vector, the graphical representation is just that, nothing more" seems to be enough to change their mind.



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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#14 - 2011-12-07 20:49:41 UTC
Krios Ahzek wrote:



Eve online: If you don't know what a vector is, get out


Quaternions ftw
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#15 - 2011-12-07 23:14:56 UTC
lol
Matalino
#16 - 2011-12-07 23:24:59 UTC
Pak Narhoo wrote:
I know about the ship being a 'point'. Somehow I still have this 'my ship must point the right way or else' sense.
It's just weird. What?
Your ship turns to point in the direction that it is traveling. If your ship is not moving then it will turn to face the default direction. In order to avoid the strange appearence of having your ship turn instantly to face a new direction when you start moving, the ship will appear change direction gradually. However, this animation effect does not change the time it takes to get to warp. If your ship is not facing the right direction by the time your ship gets to 75% velocity, your ship will appear to enter warp sideways.
Hauling Hal
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2011-12-07 23:37:22 UTC
This is an issue with most cloaked ships with the new, darker space background. I don't know what ship I'm in, let alone the direction I'm moving or how far zoomed in or out I am.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#18 - 2011-12-08 14:20:22 UTC
Hauling Hal wrote:
This is an issue with most cloaked ships with the new, darker space background. I don't know what ship I'm in, let alone the direction I'm moving or how far zoomed in or out I am.


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Messoroz
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#19 - 2011-12-08 15:12:47 UTC
Switch to low settings, you can now see yourself when cloaked.
Amro One
One.
#20 - 2011-12-08 16:43:20 UTC
Why don't you change the settings on your monitor moron.
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