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Proclamation 7 - The Inquisition of YC117

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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#161 - 2015-07-19 02:26:00 UTC
Max Singularity wrote:
Samira Kernher wrote:

[21:52:39] Jamyl Sarum I > Max Singularity - Present your questions to the Ministry of Internal Order, as any other citizen of the Empire would.



Answer: "We have investigated ourselves and have found ourselves of no wrong doing!"



Investigating yourself is simply not good enough. That's much the same as me investigating my own arse and finding no turds.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#162 - 2015-07-19 06:43:36 UTC
Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:
Max Singularity wrote:
Samira Kernher wrote:

[21:52:39] Jamyl Sarum I > Max Singularity - Present your questions to the Ministry of Internal Order, as any other citizen of the Empire would.

Answer: "We have investigated ourselves and have found ourselves of no wrong doing!"

Investigating yourself is simply not good enough. That's much the same as me investigating my own arse and finding no turds.


I believe Max is saying that's what the Empress is offering: that the current Amarrian leadership will investigate itself, and that he believes that it will, of course, find itself to be legitimate and without wrongdoing. So if he has no faith that an internal investigation will be impartial, why should he - or any citizen of the Empire - submit his questions to it?
Max Singularity
House Singularity
Sixth Empire
#163 - 2015-07-19 07:31:58 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
I believe Max is saying that's what the Empress is offering: that the current Amarrian leadership will investigate itself, and that he believes that it will, of course, find itself to be legitimate and without wrongdoing. So if he has no faith that an internal investigation will be impartial, why should he - or any citizen of the Empire - submit his questions to it?



Blessings Arrendis... for you speak with a clear mind, and that of no OTHER.

Harbinger of Faith His Holiness Maximilian Singularity VI, Pope of New Eden

First Champion House Kador (defeated) - #MagnateGate

Viceroy Interview & Apostle In Amarr

Kontrahage
Perkone
Caldari State
#164 - 2015-07-19 08:31:20 UTC
Vaari wrote:
Max Singularity is found guilty of heresy, being a Sani Sabik and sorcery!

I have conducted vast investigation regarding the matters of this so called "space poppe" Conclusions are alarming, but not surprising. Max Singularity is guilty of terrible heresies, including blooding, that is vital part of the sani sabik cult.

Penaulty of these acts are death.


So when is such an "independant investigation" binding? When it's conducted by you?
Or perhaps anyone not the government?

I'm sure the Federation and several tribes have their own suggestions who should be emperor but
the only one who gets to decide is God and I don't see any of him in your scheming.
Telling enough how little you speak of him yourself.
Honorius Vitellius
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Goonswarm Federation
#165 - 2015-07-19 08:43:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Honorius Vitellius
Singularity,

You have condemned millions to death through your atrocious vanity. Your accusations and methods are fundamentally flawed. I hope to respond more fully to your heresy in the future. At present, I will briefly outline some of the more grievous failures in your "inquisition."

Item 1: Inquisition is so called because it depends on the asking of questions in search of answers. As answers to these questions accumulate (this is called evidence), action is then taken based on these answers. You have begun with answers in search of evidence. This is not an inquisition, but rather a rebellion under a thin veneer of pseudo-sanctity.

Item 2: Your so-called "Sixth Empire" is a group largely composed of, and supported by, criminals and terrorists. You cannot declare the sitting government of the empire impure while you yourself dwell in a brothel.

Item 3: You have no legal right to "query" the accession of the Empress to power. The Theology Council accepted Her Majesty's position. Your duty as an Amarr citizen is to obey. Failure to obey the structures of the Empire is heresy. It is a rebellion against God whose order in human society takes the form of the Empire; as a result, your points 1, 2, 3, and 4 are baseless and should not be considered as written.

Item 4: What is a "crime against humanity?" What an absurd and heretical notion. Crimes are against God and His design. They are not against His creatures as if they have a moral nature beyond His existence and His plan; as a result, your points 5 and 6 are baseless and should not be considered as written.

Item 5: Charges of incompetence vs. the Sansha Incursions require evidence. I have seen no evidence that suggests that Her Majesty's response is lacking in comparison to that of other governments. Is the suggestion that the Empire should have placed the Navy at the service of your band of criminals?

Item 6: Your item 6 is a restatement of your above points, and as those points are dismissed it too must be rejected.

This leaves none of your statements remaining in a form that would be persuasive to the faithful or to the logical. Singularity, if you continue to kill based upon these demands, you cannot be anything other than a heretic and a terrorist. Return to the faith.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#166 - 2015-07-19 16:13:19 UTC
Honorius Vitellius wrote:
Item 2: Your so-called "Sixth Empire" is a group largely composed of, and supported by, criminals and terrorists. You cannot declare the sitting government of the empire impure while you yourself dwell in a brothel.


To be fair from all I've heard, Max's 'Sixth Empire' isn't an actual empire but a state of being. Capsuleers, by our condition, are in some ways inherently sociopathic, and don't really fit in the existing Empires' power structure well. It's useful to understand exactly what he's saying before you decry it.
Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#167 - 2015-07-19 16:18:12 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Schere, don't keep feeding her.

Sorry, yes, you're right. It's all pretty obvious, isn't it? She keeps on piling paragraphs onto subjects that can more clearly be dealt with by sentences. We've got a saying in the lab, "If you can't wow them with wisdom, baffle them with battleships."

(It's actually "baffle them with BS", but I've always assumed it stands for battleships. I should probably ask!)

Either way, it seems obvious to me that her goal is demoralization and defamation. I suppose that is to be expected!
Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#168 - 2015-07-19 16:19:04 UTC
I have just been informed that the BS does not in fact stand for "battleships".
Arrendis
TK Corp
#169 - 2015-07-19 16:32:50 UTC
Scherezad wrote:
Either way, it seems obvious to me that her goal is demoralization and defamation. I suppose that is to be expected!


Nonsense. I'm here for the relaxed conversation. And I'm waiting for Ansio to come back and tell me how his letter-writing campaign's going.
Anslo
Scope Works
#170 - 2015-07-19 16:44:55 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Scherezad wrote:
Either way, it seems obvious to me that her goal is demoralization and defamation. I suppose that is to be expected!


Nonsense. I'm here for the relaxed conversation. And I'm waiting for Ansio to come back and tell me how his letter-writing campaign's going.

No letter needed. Just talked to the right people. As I suspected, you're naught more than a line member in logistics given a sub-dir title for being around enough. Aside from what, anything you say here isn't indicative of official stances, and are essentially you're own opinions.

Short version; I've been informed anything you say can be quite safely ignored.

Oh, and you should work on your participation, apparently.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Arrendis
TK Corp
#171 - 2015-07-19 17:15:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Arrendis
Anslo wrote:

No letter needed. Just talked to the right people. As I suspected, you're naught more than a line member in logistics given a sub-dir title for being around enough. Aside from what, anything you say here isn't indicative of official stances, and are essentially you're own opinions.

Short version; I've been informed anything you say can be quite safely ignored.

Oh, and you should work on your participation, apparently.


Mmmhm. You do realize, I've explicitly said everything I say here is my own opinion. And no, I don't hold any sub-director position. So you're full of... battleships, then, as the little fish might say. Or your source is as ill-informed as you are. Especially about participation numbers for waffe.
Anslo
Scope Works
#172 - 2015-07-19 18:01:30 UTC
I meant yours. And my source I would say is well informed. But hey if you can't even spell my name right how could anyone expect you to remember your title and duties? I wonder what waffe are thinking when they brought an invalid like you onboard and into any role.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Arrendis
TK Corp
#173 - 2015-07-19 18:27:15 UTC
Anslo wrote:
I meant yours. And my source I would say is well informed. But hey if you can't even spell my name right how could anyone expect you to remember your title and duties? I wonder what waffe are thinking when they brought an invalid like you onboard and into any role.


Eh, a typo born of utter disrespect. I'll cop to that. Heck, I'll even apologize for it. I won't mean it, but I'll apologize.

But no, my titles are 'POS Gunner, Hammerbee, Capital Pilot'. Notice the lack of 'Sub-director' in there. My duties, on the other hand, are fleet logistics, running the logistics wing of the fleet, and running the Imperial RepSwarm SIG, which trains fleet logistics pilots and anchors. Special Interest Group leadership is also not a sub-director position, as it conveys no special position within the Alliance. So clearly, if your source is calling me a 'sub-director', then they're either getting it wrong - and I won't speculate as to why - or they're intentionally misleading you.

Just as they did when they told you Amok, with fully 10% lower participation in strategic fleets than GEWNS, and just over half the participation of SNOOO, is the 'main combat wing' of the Alliance.
Max Singularity
House Singularity
Sixth Empire
#174 - 2015-07-19 19:30:20 UTC
Anslo wrote:
I wonder what waffe are thinking when they brought an invalid like you onboard and into any role.



Arrendis, is it just me, that sees a sea change?

I have reviewed the 150 some comments of this thread (and other threads) and I noticed that the 'personal attacks' and desperation of comment, once a signature Goon tactic, has shifted to the opposed-Goon cartels.

The Imperium seems to have truly found Redemption, while the others 'sink below' their level.

Hmmmmm....

Blessed again are you for keeping the higher road and moderated response. Seems there are 'other' things on people's minds that distract them from due civil discourse.

Harbinger of Faith His Holiness Maximilian Singularity VI, Pope of New Eden

First Champion House Kador (defeated) - #MagnateGate

Viceroy Interview & Apostle In Amarr

Anslo
Scope Works
#175 - 2015-07-19 19:49:16 UTC
Oh shut up you wind bag. You were an N3 has been and now you're a CFC mascot.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Arrendis
TK Corp
#176 - 2015-07-19 20:13:23 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Oh shut up you wind bag.


That's not very nice. You should at least have the decency to offer an insincere apology. It's the civilized thing to do, you know.

And Your Holiness, I don't know that it's a sea change, really. There are simply some elements in every group who prefer rancor and vitriol to casual conversation. It's my hope that most are more interested in substance, and doing good work in their own right, like Scherezad, but some will only ever be interested in self-aggrandizement by tearing others down.

As an aside, Scherezard, I do hope I'm not offending you with my continued use of 'little fish'. If anything, it's an ironic reminder to myself not to be so quick to forget that CONCORD is not the only record-keeper of, well, record.
Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#177 - 2015-07-19 20:14:37 UTC
Civility's mask is often borrowed by evil to present a pretty face.
Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#178 - 2015-07-19 20:17:16 UTC
I'm quite happy to be a little fish. I'm no more important than any of my workmates at I-RED or at LDRBC, and wouldn't have it any other way.

Using diminutives with strangers is a common way to create a sense of superiority in ones' self, though. I'd suggest that the intentions you believe you have are not the intentions you actually hold.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#179 - 2015-07-19 21:08:31 UTC
Scherezad wrote:
I'm quite happy to be a little fish. I'm no more important than any of my workmates at I-RED or at LDRBC, and wouldn't have it any other way.

Using diminutives with strangers is a common way to create a sense of superiority in ones' self, though. I'd suggest that the intentions you believe you have are not the intentions you actually hold.


We are each of us only small parts of larger things - and even those are tiny and insignificant against the scale of the cosmos. But I can't rule out the possibility that you're right. I did, after all, admit to the 'arrogant' and 'pompous' thing, now didn't I?

As for evil intent... that's why I acknowledged the insincerity of my apology. It's hard to be accused of hiding something when you tell someone your apology isn't meant!
Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#180 - 2015-07-19 21:13:52 UTC
You're not so much the evil as the mask, Ms Arrendis.