Intergalactic Summit

This whole Imperium uprising thing really hasn't even been on my radar, so please excuse my ignorance on this one. Why would the Tribes help you exactly? Not only do (or did, really don't care or deal with you guys enough to keep up with your latest details) you have J4LP on your side, a group that shot at our militia forces, you're of the Amarr faith yourselves. We don't exactly have any reassurance that anything benefitting us will actually happen, aside from giving our collective enemy a black eye. Really when it comes down to it I don't see how any group has reason to fully trust you. You've either done bad by people or nothing at all, thus no real grounds for blind faith. Not to mention if you do succeed really your just scattering a group of our enemies to push yourselves closer to us which isn't necessarily a good thing. I just don't see any benefit, though I will say I do look forward to what's on the horizon.

There is nothing blind about my position. Nor is there any boast in my credentials. I'll admit to the insults, little fish, because I'm sure you find it insulting to be called on your own murdering ways. But as to how I speak out... if I were, for example, to rant and ramble here as you do against the Imperium's leaders, then that public rant would be ignored by those in the halls of power. It would achieve nothing. Less than nothing, really, as it would mean any words I speak in private would be similarly ignored.



The Imperium's fleets will kill no planetary populations, and cause no loss of life in stations. I'm not saying for even a moment that your pilots can "stop this war". I'm not telling you you should. I'm saying there is no benefit to be had in undocking and throwing lives away.



Nonsense. I compared the price of one life against the lives of hundreds.



Every time I take the field, I do so with the willingness to lose my own life in order to try to save others. My record of losses speaks for itself. As does yours, and one Bantam does not offset the attack ships that adorn your past. You won't discuss your own efforts to save lives because the ships you fly are designed to kill. The ships I fly are designed to save lives. The pilots I train, the capsuleers I lead, they are all dedicated to saving lives, even at the cost of their own.

Don't believe me, if it helps you to dismiss my words. Certainly, given your record, you will not be in any danger. It's been almost three years since you last left Caldari space - and you have never set foot in Providence. So please, continue to show us all how bravely you oppose an aggressor in a campaign to which you will never come closer than a hundred light-years or more.

You assume much. Though I shouldn't be surprised, I've caught pilots under your banner with their foot crammed into their mouth more often then not.

I assume nothing. Even a casual glance at your pilot Scherezad's combat record on file with CONCORD shows she stays primarily in Lonetrek and the Citadel, and has for the last three years.

Minimize the loss of life. An admirable goal, but unattainable without wisdom.

You want to minimize the loss of life? How did war become the answer? How does Burn Amarr factor into this?

To me, if someone wanted to minimize the loss of life, I would seek out the Speakers of Truth. Pilots within PIE and CVA have escorted Brother Joshua himself.

For sake of argument, let us say we are all brainwashed. Do your promises of violence portray any sort of salvation for us?

Again for the sake of argument, let us say we are NOT brainwashed and under some strange influence. We see a man rise up and proclaim himself Emperor, and Pope, with unfounded accusations without shreds of proof, and his notion to bring down the Empress is to bring violence to a peaceful region. And his followers claim a desire to "minimize the loss of life" after engaging in a campaign to murder and pillage within our home system. They propagate ideas of "legality" while they themselves engage in criminal acts.

This is madness, not salvation.

Amok is a fine corporation with very capable leadership. But to claim they are the 'main combat wing' of the swarm is as ridiculous as claiming SNOO or DOKDO can say the same. The main combat wing of the swarm is the swarm. However, if it's references within Amok you want, speak with Laz, Reagalan, or Jay.

Cardinal Dex;

War is always madness. It is one of the many to which our species is prone, and unfortunately, one that our particular breed - capsuleers - has all but made into a sport. You say those who wish to minimize the loss of life should seek out Brother Joshua, but I very much doubt he could even begin to turn aside the forces that have been set in motion.

Let us say, for the sake of argument, that he speaks out against Max Singularity. How does this change anything? He is a part of the current Amarrian order, his words will be dismissed by those who oppose that order.

And if he investigates matters, and speaks out in support of Singularity? Will any of Sarum's loyalists believe him? Will the Empress accept his judgment? Will the Theology Council? Or will he, in turn, be branded a heretic, and likely imprisoned or executed?

That would of course, serve the purpose of sowing more doubt, of fanning the flames, but it would also lead to the death of a normal, unaugmented individual who seems to truly strive to be a good man. Others claim that I measure out the blood-cost of a life, but this man is not a combatant, not one who chooses to live in the center of our violent trade. To actively seek his death - as seeking to push him to decry the Empress would be, is tantamount to premeditated murder in cold blood.

I, myself, claim a desire to minimize the loss of life. I took no lives in Amarr. I do not claim The Imperium wishes to minimize those losses, I do not claim Max Singularity wants them minimized. That desire doesn't mean I won't take the field when the time comes, trying to minimize our losses. But if I can minimize the losses overall, then do I not have an obligation to try?

I'd reply in detail, Ms Arrendis, but to be frank, there's no point. You haven't listened (hence the accusation of blindness), you just disgorge more paragraphs.

Bloviating about how the deaths will be our fault because we didn't surrender. Do I really need to explain how blinkered and upside-down this morality is? Do you really think other Capsuleers don't think about the death around them? Do you think you're the only one with these 'profound' realizations? Are you a child?

As for the personal affronts, I suppose that since you made them a major theme, I should make some effort at a reply.

I'm a terrible combat pilot - mostly for lack of practice. The majority of work I conduct is in the development of palliative implants with Lai Dai Research Biomedical and Cybernetic. We heal people. Most of my conducts in space are sort of poor, and I have nothing but endless gratitude towards I-RED and Ortesai Revenent for taking me in. The most meaningful contributions I've taken in space, though, has been in participating in the rescue and freeing of a quarter million slaves who had been abandoned to die.

And your contributions have been... asking people to please stop shooting, along the polite corridors of power?

Please, though. Do keep upending the bucket of your bilious brain on the forums. Perhaps a gem will eventually be found among the refuse. I'll reply if I find any.

So you "heal" people by developing implants that mask pain without actually addressing the causes of pain? I marvel at your definition of "healing". Or is it 'palliative' that you're misusing?

And please, do show your patents, then - or is this yet another unverifiable claim to set against the public record of your activities?



For you, little fish, it takes only an eyedropper, not a bucket.

P-A-T-E-N-T-S, not P-A-T-I-E-N-T-S. You claim to have contributed to the design of new implants with Lai Dai. The Caldari State maintains patent records on all technological innovations. Nice little attempt at evasion, though.