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Eve 2.0 - A brave new world?

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Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2015-07-09 11:44:36 UTC
Samir Duran Xadi wrote:
By now though most people have realised the rapidly declining user base is a fact.


So because you're saying it, then it must be a fact?
Samir Duran Xadi
Diversity Equity and Inclusion
#22 - 2015-07-09 11:47:12 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
CCP had a lucky shot with EVE. I don't think they would be able to replicate that. Look at their idiotic decisions on all their other games.

Dust 514: Released on a dying platform with underwhelming performance, graphics and gameplay (seriously, I tried it, it is horrible)

World of Darkness: Bschhh?

Valkyrie: Based on some 3D googles stuff no one has and few ever will purchase. Feeds on a "WOAH SPACE!" effect which fades after 30min and then it probably just becomes annoying to wear this ******* googles.

You really think a company like that can make an EVE 2.0?

They actually do a good job at fixing EVE. All they have to do is stay out of the sandbox and balance and fix stuff.


Unfortunately, I agree with you but if they want to put a stop to a declining userbase they need to make bigger changes than just fixing existing mechanics. Eve is a sandbox and without people the game loses its meaning.



Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
Oh and does anyone else notice the familiarity to the character from yesterday and the similar writing style?


Sorry to disappoint you but I don't have the spare time you do, you'll find that out as you grow older and take responsibilities. I make a couple of posts per month when I feel like I have something worthwhile to say.
Lan Wang
African Atomic.
Dreadnought Diplomacy.
#23 - 2015-07-09 12:00:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
Samir Duran Xadi wrote:
Unfortunately, I agree with you but if they want to put a stop to a declining userbase they need to make bigger changes than just fixing existing mechanics. Eve is a sandbox and without people the game loses its meaning.


so whats your suggestion on fixing eve?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Samir Duran Xadi
Diversity Equity and Inclusion
#24 - 2015-07-09 12:20:55 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Samir Duran Xadi wrote:
Unfortunately, I agree with you but if they want to put a stop to a declining userbase they need to make bigger changes than just fixing existing mechanics. Eve is a sandbox and without people the game loses its meaning.


so whats your suggestion on fixing eve?


It would be much easier to list things that don't need to be changed. CCP just needs to work harder for their size the content upgrades are far too small. They can also start listening to their players and not cater to certain playstyles (recent nullsec wh change for example). Expansions the size of apocrypha or even bigger need to become the norm again.
Lan Wang
African Atomic.
Dreadnought Diplomacy.
#25 - 2015-07-09 12:32:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
all sounds really biased in my opinion, like you want something changed which caters to you only.

what exactly is your playstyle if you dont mind me asking?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Spurty
#26 - 2015-07-09 12:36:39 UTC
There are not enough faces and palms to describe the feelings this thread invokes.

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

Built by CCP
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2015-07-09 12:57:01 UTC
Lucy Lopez wrote:
I see this thread attracted the usual predictable responses. No wonder most people post elsewhere now.

Please take a look at reddit and good luck explaining how most of these people could EVER be considered a loss! Lol

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2015-07-09 12:57:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Angelica Dreamstar
Samir Duran Xadi wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Samir Duran Xadi wrote:
Unfortunately, I agree with you but if they want to put a stop to a declining userbase they need to make bigger changes than just fixing existing mechanics. Eve is a sandbox and without people the game loses its meaning.


so whats your suggestion on fixing eve?


It would be much easier to list things that don't need to be changed. CCP just needs to work harder for their size the content upgrades are far too small. They can also start listening to their players and not cater to certain playstyles (recent nullsec wh change for example). Expansions the size of apocrypha or even bigger need to become the norm again.

Lol


Btw, your "worthwhile to say" is the same we read hundreds of times already. Your ignorance ian't even funny. Just like the last guy do you have nothing new to bring to the table, yet feel you deserve your own thread and don't even DARE to verify the redundancy!

It's not worthwhile just because you think it is, no matter how many alts you all come up with.

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE
Magnus Orly
Crucial Contribution
#29 - 2015-07-09 13:02:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Magnus Orly
Someone stole my idea Big smile

I wish you all the luck OP...you will need it...to try to have a civil discussion about something constructive...


PM to forum moderators:
You should lock this thread also. In fact you should lock all threads that could even have a remote chance of leading to a discussion of some sorts. That is definitely not what forums on the internet are for. No...they are only for throwing flowers at each other and only discussing things that we all agree on...doh.

Especially things like game design should never be discussed in the forums (!) as these are bound to lead to people actually having different thoughts.

Also you should take some random phrase from the rules. Especially the one about "trolling" or something. Pretty much everything can be squeezed into that one.

Also you should definitely never point fingers at any of the rude posters around here (their feelings might get hurt)
that are destroying all of the threads and especially ones that they don't fancy or where they hold a different standpoint of that of the original poster.

It is much easier to continue and lock threads.

Sarcasm off.

Our corporation is recruiting! We live in Caldari high-sec and do mining, missions and trading.
Magnus Orly
Crucial Contribution
#30 - 2015-07-09 13:08:04 UTC
Going to re-post something I wrote earlier as I refuse have it sent to some internet graveyard somewhere:

Quote:
With more graphic combat where you CAN control the ship easier and standardised viewpoints and battle-grids.

Less player power. I know player power and all that bla bla bla but in the end if there is too much player power the game will get stale (sooner or later). So more co-op but less "massive" focus.

Basically do an Elite Dangerous but "do it right". The EVE way.

Our corporation is recruiting! We live in Caldari high-sec and do mining, missions and trading.
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2015-07-09 13:08:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Angelica Dreamstar
Magnus Orly wrote:
Someone stole my idea Big smile

I wish you all the luck OP...you will need it...to try to have a civil discussion about something constructive...


PM to forum moderators:
You should lock this thread also. In fact you should lock all threads that could even have a remote chance of leading to a discussion of some sorts. That is definitely not what forums on the internet are for. No...they are only for throwing flowers at each other and only discussing things that we all agree on...doh.

Especially things like game design should never be discussed in the forums (!) as these are bound to lead to people actually having different thoughts.

Also you should take some random phrase from the rules. Especially the one about "trolling" or something. Pretty much everything can be squeezed into that one.

Also you should definitely never point fingers at any of the rude posters around here (their feelings might get hurt)
that are destroying all of the threads and especially ones that they don't fancy or where they hold a different standpoint of that of the original poster.

It is much easier to continue and lock threads.

Sarcasm off.

So when you started insulting people, first btw, that was totally okay? Lol



https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5870457

Who started the heavy insults, because people didn't agree with him?

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE
Magnus Orly
Crucial Contribution
#32 - 2015-07-09 13:12:02 UTC
Oh yeah...sure...I insulted first my ass. Pretty sure most of the posters in my former thread already edited their posts but for NO reason whatsoever...there where like 3-4 posts calling me names and THAT was first. After that I can agree that I lost it...but that is because they don't have the right to behave like that...at least that's what I think.

Our corporation is recruiting! We live in Caldari high-sec and do mining, missions and trading.
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2015-07-09 13:14:51 UTC
Magnus Orly wrote:
Oh yeah...sure...I insulted first my ass. Pretty sure most of the posters in my former thread already edited their posts but for NO reason whatsoever...there where like 3-4 posts calling me names and THAT was first. After that I can agree that I lost it...but that is because they don't have the right to behave like that...at least that's what I think.

So you admit you did, yet you tell US we can't have civilized discussions?

Do you honestly not understand why people reacted that way? I give you the benefit of doubt, this once, and will explain it to you if you just LISTEN!

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE
Magnus Orly
Crucial Contribution
#34 - 2015-07-09 13:15:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Magnus Orly
Ah, very good of you to post a link to that one. Perfect...now everyone can see what a liar you are. Also they can see that one of the so called "first" posts is actually even made by you...doh...something about lowlifes....

Perhaps you should scurry over there and edit some posts...

Our corporation is recruiting! We live in Caldari high-sec and do mining, missions and trading.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#35 - 2015-07-09 13:17:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Magnus Orly wrote:
Someone stole my idea Big smile
It's not an original idea, and it definitely wasn't your idea in the first place, as evidenced by the numerous variations on the topic that have been posted in the Eve forums over the last 10 or more years.

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I wish you all the luck OP...you will need it...to try to have a civil discussion about something constructive...
Constructive discourse doesn't normally involve calling every other participant a troll because they disagree with you.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Lan Wang
African Atomic.
Dreadnought Diplomacy.
#36 - 2015-07-09 13:17:53 UTC
wellthatescalatedquickly.jpg Shocked

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Magnus Orly
Crucial Contribution
#37 - 2015-07-09 13:19:50 UTC
Jonah...I never called anyone a troll...that is one of the most stupid and misused formulations ever used on the internet.

I would get mad if someone called me a troll.

So again...what are you talking about?

I actually agree with the original poster. Didn't you get that yet?

Our corporation is recruiting! We live in Caldari high-sec and do mining, missions and trading.
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2015-07-09 13:22:31 UTC
How in hell did you expect your self entitled behqviour to not cause issue? Do you even know how self entitled you behave?Would you behave like that IRL? Come to their place and tell them how much you loved what it could be, demanding severe changes only because you THINK they are better?

IRL people would smack you for that! I would! Then I'd see you cry, laugh at you, slap you once more and explained you how you better grow up fast else it'll turn into a habit! You can't behave like that.

Got it? Stop acting like a child! You're an adult, so expect to be treated like one!

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2015-07-09 13:24:53 UTC
We need to get rid of these children...

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#40 - 2015-07-09 13:24:56 UTC
Magnus Orly wrote:
Jonah...I never called anyone a troll...that is one of the most stupid and misused formulations ever used on the internet.

I would get mad if someone called me a troll.

So again...what are you talking about?
Really?

Quote:
I actually agree with the original poster. Didn't you get that yet?
I got it fine thanks; you're free to agree with him, and those of us that don't are free to disagree with both of you.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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