EVE General Discussion

Does anyone consider the idea that they wanted to go cheaper later on anyway? And did any one of you consider that if they made them cheaper NOW, a lot of people would be really angry about having the price lowered so early? Or is that one of these "tough luck" things which is fine because it only hits OTHERS anyway?

Fine, but I still didn't like it when my Comet lost its Police Beanie and skin when it was first taken away...only to see it come back as a "Yeah, we took it from you but now you can buy it back" situation.

Lol

This latest batch of T2 SKINs, while cool, makes me think SKINs are about to water themselves down, which is really bad when they cost 1/5 of a plex.

But their cost is a little more than 1/5 PLEX, which means you can only get 4 per PLEX and have some AUR left over, unless you purchase AUR for money and get the bonus amounts. Fairly obvious play at promoting AUR purchases for money, in a painful way.

Perhaps point #2 should be adjusted to become valid, rather than removed. SKINs were meant to be a sink. Otherwise, like what has happened with clothing, they would drive their own market prices down as they were purchased / created.

And I wonder how much extra pressure on PLEX comes from SKINs. I guess I was so adamant about the sink thing based on the idea that SKINs are causing some pressure on PLEX.

I can appreciate the work that goes into SKINs enough to participate. I'm happy that T2 ships have SKINs. Like others have said, I would have different spending habits on SKINs if I felt I was getting a better deal.

Just to be thorough with that opinion, to place an AUR figure on it I would say.. if I could get the subcap Wiyrkomi SKINs for $20 I would spring for them, and I don't even like the look of Wiyrkomi.

I have a station container of SKINs that the client tells me is worth 32 Billion ISK. So I mean, I believe in SKINs. I'd like for them to be more popular. I think they would be, if prices weren't a cause for resentment.

This exact message has been presented to CCP numerous times.

There is a saying in the stock market -> Pigs Get Fat, Hogs Get Slaughtered!

Like Chribba said ... I won't spend $15.00 on 1 skin but would spend $20.00 on a few skins. So ... what would you rather have for profit .. nothing or something.
Personally, I'm the same way. I think it has something to do with perceived value. I don't perceive value in $15.00 for a single skin. But would go spend happy if they were $5/ea. spending much more than $15.00 usd.

There are two ways to make money in any market.

1) turn high numbers with a low profit margin.
* this has the advantage of getting your product "into every home" and possibly a long term interest and notoriety. "household name"
* disadvantage is that you have to have a sustainable (interest in) product. Once the interest wanes... its no longer going to be a money maker. Especially if it never "catches on"

2) turn low numbers but with a HIGH profit margin.
* advantage, you get your money before people realize that your product is not all that, or they lose interest in it.
* disadvantage is that you may very well choke yourself out of any money it your product never catches on.

There is a 3rd way .. but its fairly rare. That is HIGH numbers with HIGH profit levels. You have to have a really great product, marketing, and distribution method to succeed with this.

The SKINs that were from the initial NES offering, whose prices locked in at 4,000 AUR ish... according to a dev blog, they were priced as a reward to early adopters. They're also one of the SKINs that Jennifer picked up for way below listed value. Basically, a lot of those early adopters turned out to be speculators who got tired of holding SKIN stock.

Outside of those, NES prices are free to do what they want without breaking promises. What I think would be amusing is if SKINs are initially priced at 700 AURish, and then discounted over time. But it could also be a good idea. I want to say it would put a stop to speculators, and limit the participation to players who want the SKIN asap.

I think everything about the skin system is fine, but I want a Khanid skin for the Tormentor. I can't afford more ships so wouldn't really use any other. Although I might pick up the banana boat Khanid skin if I train more into Logi. (Inquisitor)

I'm sure I will be buying lots in the future though as more get released!

Skin pricing needs to be adressed, 5 dollars is reasonable for the effort involved in creating them, they would sell faster, and we would all skip happily into the sunset.

Just to clear this up.

You are not paying for one skin. You are paying for unlimited skins.

It's not like if you get blown up you have to buy a new one, is it?

Would you rather the old way? Nice and cheap, but only one use? I'm guessing that would cost people who like skins and play the PVP part of the game a whole lot more than one unlimited licence.

No, CCP did it right this time. And the great thing is if you don't like it, you don't need to buy any. It's not going to matter in any way as to the actual gameplay. If you think it's too expensive, talk with your wallet. If you want one, take a few days off Starbucks coffee and go to Tim Horten's.

Mr Epeen