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[Proposal] Only allow those with 1000+ likes to propose ideas here
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Nikollai Tesla
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2011-12-10 00:57:16 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
The proposal is as thread title.

Surely only proposals should come from those members of the community whose words have been peer-judged to be awesome. This would have the pleasantly double-edged effect of

i) only allowing aforesaid awesome posters in suggesting only the best ideas
.....

What do you say? Show your support!


Where is the dislike button? I keep clicking and can't seem to find it.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#62 - 2011-12-10 02:28:43 UTC
supported

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"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#63 - 2011-12-10 03:37:53 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Thredd Necro wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
The proposal is as thread title.

Surely only proposals should come from those members of the community whose words have been peer-judged to be awesome. This would have the pleasantly double-edged effect of

i) only allowing aforesaid awesome posters in suggesting only the best ideas

and

ii) giving those deemed not worthy by the like system scope to buck up their ideas, pull themselves together and become more like the cool kids.

In the interests of paternalistic concern, however, under this system everyone would still be able to vote on the threads of their choice, as present.


What do you say? Show your support!


We c wut u did ther...Pirate



Try and find all of our mysterious messages! :D

Unbeknownst to everyone except you, myself, The Mittani and perhaps a couple of instructors at the US Navy's Defense Language Institute in Monterrey, California, there was a secret message hidden in the Original Post which had nothing to do with a proposal to limit the forum privileges of non-exceptional individuals, nor a troll concerning the same. Upon re-reading the original post, I have received the message and informed Commissar Mittens, whose regards you can expect within the next day or so by way of the usual intermediary.

The funny part is that people will disregard this message as a troll within a troll, and completely overlook the very obvious code words.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#64 - 2011-12-10 03:38:21 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
Thredd Necro wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
The proposal is as thread title.

Surely only proposals should come from those members of the community whose words have been peer-judged to be awesome. This would have the pleasantly double-edged effect of

i) only allowing aforesaid awesome posters in suggesting only the best ideas

and

ii) giving those deemed not worthy by the like system scope to buck up their ideas, pull themselves together and become more like the cool kids.

In the interests of paternalistic concern, however, under this system everyone would still be able to vote on the threads of their choice, as present.


What do you say? Show your support!


We c wut u did ther...Pirate



Try and find all of our mysterious messages! :D

Unbeknownst to everyone except you, myself, The Mittani and perhaps a couple of instructors at the US Navy's Defense Language Institute in Monterrey, California, there was a secret message hidden in the Original Post which had nothing to do with a proposal to limit the forum privileges of non-exceptional individuals, nor a troll concerning the same. Upon re-reading the original post, I have received the message and informed Commissar Mittens, whose regards you can expect within the next day or so by way of the usual intermediary.

The funny part is that people will disregard this message as a troll within a troll, and completely overlook the very obvious code words.



~puppetmasta~

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#65 - 2011-12-10 10:37:51 UTC
The message has been received, decoded and ready to be disseminated (giggity) to the people (but only if they fulfill the like quota)

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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Sepheir Sepheron
State War Academy
Caldari State
#66 - 2011-12-10 12:15:49 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
The proposal is as thread title.

Surely only proposals should come from those members of the community whose words have been peer-judged to be awesome. This would have the pleasantly double-edged effect of

i) only allowing aforesaid awesome posters in suggesting only the best ideas

and

ii) giving those deemed not worthy by the like system scope to buck up their ideas, pull themselves together and become more like the cool kids.

In the interests of paternalistic concern, however, under this system everyone would still be able to vote on the threads of their choice, as present.


What do you say? Show your support!


So you need to get likes by making proposals but you can't make proposals unless you have likes... Huh..
hired goon
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#67 - 2011-12-10 14:01:35 UTC
Unfortunately amount of likes is not an indicator of post quality, as evidenced by 1) the quality of Bumblefck's posts, and 2) the fact that he is one of the primary contributors to the "Like and get liked" thread in general discussion.

I move ideas should only be submittable to this forum by people who have been following Eve since 2002.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#68 - 2011-12-10 16:20:52 UTC
hired goon wrote:
Unfortunately amount of likes is not an indicator of post quality, as evidenced by 1) the quality of Bumblefck's posts, and 2) the fact that he is one of the primary contributors to the "Like and get liked" thread in general discussion.

I move ideas should only be submittable to this forum by people who have been following Eve since 2002.



The only move that you could make (and indeed did make with your post) is one of the bowels. Your idea has been noted but ultimately rejected, sadly. You may wqish to acquire more 'likes' before trying again!

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#69 - 2011-12-10 16:23:49 UTC
Sepheir Sepheron wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
The proposal is as thread title.

Surely only proposals should come from those members of the community whose words have been peer-judged to be awesome. This would have the pleasantly double-edged effect of

i) only allowing aforesaid awesome posters in suggesting only the best ideas

and

ii) giving those deemed not worthy by the like system scope to buck up their ideas, pull themselves together and become more like the cool kids.

In the interests of paternalistic concern, however, under this system everyone would still be able to vote on the threads of their choice, as present.


What do you say? Show your support!


So you need to get likes by making proposals but you can't make proposals unless you have likes... Huh..



^_^

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#70 - 2011-12-10 19:06:32 UTC
The amount of likes dosn't mean you have something in your head.
This is a bad idea.

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
Wolodymyr
Breaking Ambitions
#71 - 2011-12-10 19:51:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Wolodymyr
Everyone with over 1000 likes thinks this is a good idea. Everyone under 1000 likes thinks it's a bad idea.

Everyone will always vote for what benefits them rather than what's better for the game.

If someone suggested that only people with 5000 likes (or even 1500 likes) the original poster would cry and moan just like the rest of us.

So in the spirit of this troll thread I suggest to CCP that they only let me personally start threads in the assembly hall.

I honestly think PoCo based sov is a good idea https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1417544
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#72 - 2011-12-10 19:56:56 UTC
Wolodymyr wrote:
Everyone with over 1000 likes thinks this is a good idea. Everyone under 1000 likes thinks it's a bad idea.

Everyone will always vote for what benefits them rather than what's better for the game.

If someone suggested that only people with 5000 likes (or even 1500 likes) the original poster would cry and moan just like the rest of us.

So in the spirit of this troll thread I suggest to CCP that they only let me personally start threads in the assembly hall.

I am down for only letting myself and The Mittani make threads.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#73 - 2011-12-10 19:57:41 UTC
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
The amount of likes dosn't mean you have something in your head.
This is a bad idea.

The amount of likes determines popularity, and in democratic institutions popularity equals legitimacy.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#74 - 2011-12-10 20:22:18 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
The amount of likes dosn't mean you have something in your head.
This is a bad idea.

The amount of likes determines popularity, and in democratic institutions popularity equals legitimacy.




Yes indeedy

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#75 - 2011-12-11 08:33:39 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
The amount of likes dosn't mean you have something in your head.
This is a bad idea.

The amount of likes determines popularity, and in democratic institutions popularity equals legitimacy.


Who said the Eve forums was a democratic institution.....

More over, in dictatorships, popularity only serves to highlight the lack of alternatives/opposition.

In a world where only goonswarm spammers have enough likes to make topics that their CSM brosefs can steamroll into implementation, this kind of nullifies the whole legitimacy argument and further more highlights the massive segregation of duties conflicts of interest present in the current dispensation.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#76 - 2011-12-11 20:45:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyris Nairn
Asuka Solo wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
The amount of likes dosn't mean you have something in your head.
This is a bad idea.

The amount of likes determines popularity, and in democratic institutions popularity equals legitimacy.


Who said the Eve forums was a democratic institution.....

The EVE Online forums are not; the CSM and its business is. CCP said so.


Quote:
More over, in dictatorships, popularity only serves to highlight the lack of alternatives/opposition.

Well then you will be happy to know that the CSM is an authoritarian-enforced democratic body.


Quote:
In a world where only goonswarm spammers have enough likes to make topics that their CSM brosefs can steamroll into implementation, this kind of nullifies the whole legitimacy argument and further more highlights the massive segregation of duties conflicts of interest present in the current dispensation.

What is to stop any other group of people from banding together and having a voice exactly as loud as or louder than the collective voice of Goonswarm? I can think of exactly two things: first, that other groups of people lack the necessary organization or group cohesion to do it; second, that enough other people do not exist. If the first is the case, then one can hardly blame Goonswarm and her allies for being successful. That is generally regarded as a good thing, ya know. If the latter is the case, and literally the voice of Goonswarm is the loudest because there are more of us than there are players in every other group combined, then we honestly deserve to get everything we want because that is how a democracy works. Welcome to the tyranny of the masses.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
BLACK-STAR
#77 - 2011-12-11 23:41:36 UTC
No

I have no idea who this OP is, never seen him post anything senseful in my life. This thread for example. and there's nothing stopping the CSM from posting ideas here themselves.

did you spend endless hours liking yourself with your alts? do you feel some sort of achievement and superiority in the mind?




2/10 cause OP was thrown under a bus.
Nullbeard Rager
Doomheim
#78 - 2011-12-12 01:24:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Nullbeard Rager
Lyris Nairn wrote:
What is to stop any other group of people from banding together and having a voice exactly as loud as or louder than the collective voice of Goonswarm? I can think of exactly two things: first, that other groups of people lack the necessary organization or group cohesion to do it; second, that enough other people do not exist. If the first is the case, then one can hardly blame Goonswarm and her allies for being successful. That is generally regarded as a good thing, ya know. If the latter is the case, and literally the voice of Goonswarm is the loudest because there are more of us than there are players in every other group combined, then we honestly deserve to get everything we want because that is how a democracy works. Welcome to the tyranny of the masses.


While you aren't the majority of players in game, not if CCP's own published figures are to be believed, not to mention human nature suddenly doing a 360 degree turn, you DO seem to be one of the most active groups so yes your voice should definitely be heard.

Field of Trolls:  "If you chum it, they will come."
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#79 - 2011-12-12 05:48:11 UTC
BLACK-STAR wrote:
No

I have no idea who this OP is, never seen him post anything senseful in my life. This thread for example. and there's nothing stopping the CSM from posting ideas here themselves.

did you spend endless hours liking yourself with your alts? do you feel some sort of achievement and superiority in the mind?




2/10 cause OP was thrown under a bus.

Hi there buddy I have more likes than the OP why don't you insult me some.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#80 - 2011-12-12 10:32:53 UTC
BLACK-STAR wrote:
No

I have no idea who this OP is, never seen him post anything senseful in my life. This thread for example. and there's nothing stopping the CSM from posting ideas here themselves.

did you spend endless hours liking yourself with your alts? do you feel some sort of achievement and superiority in the mind?




2/10 cause OP was thrown under a bus.



The alt likeage conspiracy theory *gains ground*

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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