These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

Assembly Hall

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

[Proposal] Only allow those with 1000+ likes to propose ideas here
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#41 - 2011-12-08 18:48:01 UTC  |  Edited by: FloppieTheBanjoClown
About half the likes I have come from a proposal I posted here. How does one get likes when they aren't allowed to post the ideas people like?

edit: also, how does pandering for likes and being a prolific poster in any way validate you as having a remotely good idea?

Also also, I missed the underlining the first time I read it (but saw it before I read the post pointing it out). You get an extra 2 troll points for that.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#42 - 2011-12-09 15:52:08 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
About half the likes I have come from a proposal I posted here. How does one get likes when they aren't allowed to post the ideas people like?




If you have to ask, my man, you're not ready for them.


To be honest, this did start out as a bit of a troll but now I've changed my mind and concluded that this is actually a pretty darn good idea.

Support away!

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#43 - 2011-12-09 16:22:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Asuka Solo
Bumblefck wrote:
Tahna Rouspel wrote:
The very fact that you posted this idea here proves that having a 1000 likes does not make you a better poster.



Wrong.



Having 1000+ likes makes you one of the best poasters.


Wrong.

Having 1000+ likes makes you one of the best spammers in the likes and get likes thread.

Just having a look at your recent forum posts tab in your profile tells me as much.

And since you posted in there (The likes topic) 3 times in the last 24 hours alone... I rest my case.

So I'm going to have to say no to this one.

-1, burn it with fire and stuff.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#44 - 2011-12-09 16:23:56 UTC
Asuka Solo wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
Tahna Rouspel wrote:
The very fact that you posted this idea here proves that having a 1000 likes does not make you a better poster.



Wrong.



Having 1000+ likes makes you one of the best poasters.


Wrong.

Having 1000+ likes makes you one of the best spammers in the likes and get likes thread.

And since you posted in there twice in the last 24 hours alone... I rest my case.

So I'm going to have to say no to this one.

-1, burn it with fire and stuff.



It's hardly spam when there are multiple conversations going on. Nice try, but try harder, bumbaclot.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#45 - 2011-12-09 16:28:36 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Asuka Solo wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
Tahna Rouspel wrote:
The very fact that you posted this idea here proves that having a 1000 likes does not make you a better poster.



Wrong.



Having 1000+ likes makes you one of the best poasters.


Wrong.

Having 1000+ likes makes you one of the best spammers in the likes and get likes thread.

And since you posted in there twice in the last 24 hours alone... I rest my case.

So I'm going to have to say no to this one.

-1, burn it with fire and stuff.



It's hardly spam when there are multiple conversations going on. Nice try, but try harder, bumbaclot.


I lolled.

if spam = off topic chats/posts...

& a topic only has 1 subject of conversation...

Then having a topic with multiple convos is indeed spam.

Nice attempt, but attempt harder.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#46 - 2011-12-09 16:30:14 UTC
Roll

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
#47 - 2011-12-09 17:18:25 UTC
Sounds like a plan provided:
- Circle jerk "likes" are ignored (ie. any likes by current or former corp/alliance members).
- Fishing "likes" are ignored (such as the "post to get likes" thread).
-- Repeated and consistent fishing earns fisherman a forum perma-ban.
- "Likes" are removed from COAD altogether.

Otherwise, no.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#48 - 2011-12-09 17:24:34 UTC
Hirana Yoshida wrote:
Sounds like a plan provided:
- Circle jerk "likes" are ignored (ie. any likes by current or former corp/alliance members).
- Fishing "likes" are ignored (such as the "post to get likes" thread).
-- Repeated and consistent fishing earns fisherman a forum perma-ban.
- "Likes" are removed from COAD altogether.

Otherwise, no.


1. Agree
2. Agree (ha!)
3. Disagree
4. Remove CAOD altogether and you remove pretty much all that is wrong with EVE

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#49 - 2011-12-09 17:32:13 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
The proposal is as thread title.

Surely only proposals should come from those members of the community whose words have been peer-judged to be awesome. This would have the pleasantly double-edged effect of

i) only allowing aforesaid awesome posters in suggesting only the best ideas

and

ii) giving those deemed not worthy by the like system scope to buck up their ideas, pull themselves together and become more like the cool kids.

In the interests of paternalistic concern, however, under this system everyone would still be able to vote on the threads of their choice, as present.


What do you say? Show your support!

I approve of this message.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#50 - 2011-12-09 17:35:13 UTC
Berendas wrote:
For this to happen the Feature and Ideas Discussion forum would need to be more trafficed. A lot of the threads posted here really belong over in FID. The Assembly Hall tends to get flooded with unrefined ideas that people just whip up and get excited about (I am guilty of this myself). 1000 seems really high though, maybe if it was something like 200 I would support this proposal.

Maybe for someone whose posting power is abysmally low this would be true, but isn't the goal of the proposal to keep exactly those such persons from posting ideas for changes? As a certified Good Poster, I fully support the idea of random lemmings being silenced so that the people everyone wants to hear can be heard more clearly. You have no idea how much I wish I could selectively filter directorbot to give me nothing but Endie posts and CEO Updates, and that's within my own alliance which is built from a community which prides itself on quality posting. Do you realize how terrible the throbbing masses look? Seriously, remove yourself from the fact that this is a video game you like and actually read the incoherent drivel that's posted on these forums.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#51 - 2011-12-09 17:50:36 UTC
Bumble approves of the Queen of Likes and all she brings

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#52 - 2011-12-09 17:51:06 UTC
Tahna Rouspel wrote:
To be fair,

Only CSM should be allowed to start threads in the Assembly Hall. The general population can discuss idea in the Idea and Feature section. And Lyris is just as much a troll as everyone else, 10000 likes or not.

In what way am I a troll, sir? I will have you realize that trolling is against the forum rules and I am desperate not to break them.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#53 - 2011-12-09 17:57:17 UTC
Drake Draconis wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
Oh, before I forget, even if he had a million likes (lol!) Drake Draconis and his would forever be forbidden to make proposals. I'm just shooing that proposal onto this one. :)


The last time I posted an Idea....was before this forum board was even activated...and I can count on one hand..less than even... as to the number of times I did that....maybe at most 4.


As for likes itself... who the #### said they would be a measurement of ones worth to make proposals?

all you've proven is your the least of these.

Likes is nothing more than "e-honour" and doesn't mean a damn thing other than someone giving you props for a indivdiual post.


Ideas require you to use that thing they call grey matter in your thick skull.... something you seriously lack in material...and use.

To top that off....your just being an @$$ in this grand standing. Nothing short of pathetic troll posting....a complete waste of time.

Dear Sir;

While it would be beyond my good manners to say so directly, I have read other people express negativity towards your posting style and I cannot help but notice that this particular post is illustrative of a few elements which could very easily be the cause of that. Please do not take my words unkindly; I am from the Internet, and I am here to help you get better if you will let me. If you re-read what you have posted, you will notice a sort of wandering and disorganized style to what you have said; moreover, you go for the cheap, low-brow insults that no one finds endearing or entertaining. If you would permit me to be so bold, might I suggest that you frame future posts in the form of paragraphs, and that you either use separate paragraphs or individual posts to deliver each stinging insult? Alternately one could be more kind to one's fellow forum users and abstain from direct insults entirely, which is the route I elect. You might choose to focus your arguments directly on your detractor's own claims, rather than engaging in an ad hominem against him; this will not only keep you from being labeled a nasty man but will also positively label you as someone who has a smattering of knowledge concerning the proper construction of a rhetorical debate.

All my love,
~Lyris

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#54 - 2011-12-09 18:00:50 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Drake Draconis wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
Oh, before I forget, even if he had a million likes (lol!) Drake Draconis and his would forever be forbidden to make proposals. I'm just shooing that proposal onto this one. :)


The last time I posted an Idea....was before this forum board was even activated...and I can count on one hand..less than even... as to the number of times I did that....maybe at most 4.


As for likes itself... who the #### said they would be a measurement of ones worth to make proposals?

all you've proven is your the least of these.

Likes is nothing more than "e-honour" and doesn't mean a damn thing other than someone giving you props for a indivdiual post.


Ideas require you to use that thing they call grey matter in your thick skull.... something you seriously lack in material...and use.

To top that off....your just being an @$$ in this grand standing. Nothing short of pathetic troll posting....a complete waste of time.

Dear Sir;

While it would be beyond my good manners to say so directly, I have read other people express negativity towards your posting style and I cannot help but notice that this particular post is illustrative of a few elements which could very easily be the cause of that. Please do not take my words unkindly; I am from the Internet, and I am here to help you get better if you will let me. If you re-read what you have posted, you will notice a sort of wandering and disorganized style to what you have said; moreover, you go for the cheap, low-brow insults that no one finds endearing or entertaining. If you would permit me to be so bold, might I suggest that you frame future posts in the form of paragraphs, and that you either use separate paragraphs or individual posts to deliver each stinging insult? Alternately one could be more kind to one's fellow forum users and abstain from direct insults entirely, which is the route I elect. You might choose to focus your arguments directly on your detractor's own claims, rather than engaging in an ad hominem against him; this will not only keep you from being labeled a nasty man but will also positively label you as someone who has a smattering of knowledge concerning the proper construction of a rhetorical debate.

All my love,
~Lyris



I think if we all followed Lyris's advice, we would turn out to be veritable Space-Virgils or Galactic-Homers. I take my hat off to you!

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#55 - 2011-12-09 18:08:51 UTC
Hirana Yoshida wrote:
Sounds like a plan provided:
- Circle jerk "likes" are ignored (ie. any likes by current or former corp/alliance members).
- Fishing "likes" are ignored (such as the "post to get likes" thread).
-- Repeated and consistent fishing earns fisherman a forum perma-ban.
- "Likes" are removed from COAD altogether.

Otherwise, no.

I have no problem with this slight modification, but you should be aware that I have several "circle jerkers" following my posting whom are not in my corporation, Alliance, or even coalition. I suppose you could call them subscribers to my posts. Would you consider their likes to also be exempt? Were we to extend this to its logical conclusion, what if I were to amass more than half of active forum readers as my subscribers? What if I had literally all of it? How and where do you draw the line from "circle jerks," to "this guy is an amazing poster"?

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#56 - 2011-12-09 18:52:46 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
How and where do you draw the line from "circle jerks," to "this guy is an amazing poster"?

And what about Lyris, who benefits from both?

Awesome posters who happen to be in the center of a circle jerk (eww) end up with far more likes than us common folk, yet we can't penalize them for being so awesome they have an alliance full of groupies.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2011-12-09 20:08:55 UTC
I support this proposal! It is a fantastic idea!

I am going to start "liking" all my posts with my 5 alts now so I can be ready for the change!

/sarcasm

No...

Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#58 - 2011-12-09 20:30:25 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
I support this proposal! It is a fantastic idea!

I am going to start "liking" all my posts with my 5 alts now so I can be ready for the change!

/sarcasm

No...



Lucky no one cares what you think!

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2011-12-09 20:47:52 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
I support this proposal! It is a fantastic idea!

I am going to start "liking" all my posts with my 5 alts now so I can be ready for the change!

/sarcasm

No...



Lucky no one cares what you think!


Likewise.

Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#60 - 2011-12-09 21:04:19 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
I support this proposal! It is a fantastic idea!

I am going to start "liking" all my posts with my 5 alts now so I can be ready for the change!

/sarcasm

No...



Lucky no one cares what you think!


Likewise.

I care what he thinks.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn