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Corporation Thief - De'Nab
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Lilith Folkvardr
Doomheim
#21 - 2015-07-07 09:38:26 UTC
Provided he isn't destroyed in a Carrier or Dread.. Yeah, I have set aside some ISK for this and when that runs out I will with draw the offer, he is in Null last time a I located him, so I don't expect people to go into deep Null looking for him, but if they happen across him, so yeah, should be fine, especially if it is only 200-300mil ISK Battleships :)
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#22 - 2015-07-07 11:51:55 UTC
Wallace Trucker wrote:
it is theft. You can steal something that has been entrusted to your care...period. We may also have a burglary if the suspect had the intent to steal the merchandise when joining the corp. This Person is a Criminal and from my experience will continue on this path until caught. prosecuted, and rehebilitated.

484. (a) Every person who shall feloniously steal, take, carry,
lead, or drive away the personal property of another, or who shall
fraudulently appropriate property which has been entrusted to him or
her, or who shall knowingly and designedly, by any false or
fraudulent representation or pretense, defraud any other person of
money, labor or real or personal property, or who causes or procures
others to report falsely of his or her wealth or mercantile character
and by thus imposing upon any person, obtains credit and thereby
fraudulently gets or obtains possession of money, or property or
obtains the labor or service of another, is guilty of theft. In
determining the value of the property obtained, for the purposes of
this section, the reasonable and fair market value shall be the test,
and in determining the value of services received the contract price
shall be the test. If there be no contract price, the reasonable and
going wage for the service rendered shall govern. For the purposes
of this section, any false or fraudulent representation or pretense
made shall be treated as continuing, so as to cover any money,
property or service received as a result thereof, and the complaint,
information or indictment may charge that the crime was committed on
any date during the particular period in question. The hiring of any
additional employee or employees without advising each of them of
every labor claim due and unpaid and every judgment that the employer
has been unable to meet shall be prima facie evidence of intent to
defraud.

Leave your real world laws at the log in screen please we operate by a different set of principles here

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

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Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#23 - 2015-07-07 11:52:42 UTC
Lilith Folkvardr wrote:
Provided he isn't destroyed in a Carrier or Dread.. Yeah, I have set aside some ISK for this and when that runs out I will with draw the offer, he is in Null last time a I located him, so I don't expect people to go into deep Null looking for him, but if they happen across him, so yeah, should be fine, especially if it is only 200-300mil ISK Battleships :)

He was being sarcastic

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

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Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2015-07-07 12:01:14 UTC
Wallace Trucker wrote:
it is theft. You can steal something that has been entrusted to your care...period. We may also have a burglary if the suspect had the intent to steal the merchandise when joining the corp. This Person is a Criminal and from my experience will continue on this path until caught. prosecuted, and rehebilitated.

484. (a) Every person who shall feloniously steal, take, carry,
lead, or drive away the personal property of another, or who shall
fraudulently appropriate property which has been entrusted to him or
her, or who shall knowingly and designedly, by any false or
fraudulent representation or pretense, defraud any other person of
money, labor or real or personal property, or who causes or procures
others to report falsely of his or her wealth or mercantile character
and by thus imposing upon any person, obtains credit and thereby
fraudulently gets or obtains possession of money, or property or
obtains the labor or service of another, is guilty of theft. In
determining the value of the property obtained, for the purposes of
this section, the reasonable and fair market value shall be the test,
and in determining the value of services received the contract price
shall be the test. If there be no contract price, the reasonable and
going wage for the service rendered shall govern. For the purposes
of this section, any false or fraudulent representation or pretense
made shall be treated as continuing, so as to cover any money,
property or service received as a result thereof, and the complaint,
information or indictment may charge that the crime was committed on
any date during the particular period in question. The hiring of any
additional employee or employees without advising each of them of
every labor claim due and unpaid and every judgment that the employer
has been unable to meet shall be prima facie evidence of intent to
defraud.


So if I remove my tools from my own garage, is that theft?

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#25 - 2015-07-07 12:04:42 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Lilith Folkvardr wrote:
Provided he isn't destroyed in a Carrier or Dread.. Yeah, I have set aside some ISK for this and when that runs out I will with draw the offer, he is in Null last time a I located him, so I don't expect people to go into deep Null looking for him, but if they happen across him, so yeah, should be fine, especially if it is only 200-300mil ISK Battleships :)

He was being sarcastic


See what I mean? The case must be ruled Nolle prosequi.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#26 - 2015-07-07 12:08:32 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Lilith Folkvardr wrote:
Provided he isn't destroyed in a Carrier or Dread.. Yeah, I have set aside some ISK for this and when that runs out I will with draw the offer, he is in Null last time a I located him, so I don't expect people to go into deep Null looking for him, but if they happen across him, so yeah, should be fine, especially if it is only 200-300mil ISK Battleships :)

He was being sarcastic


See what I mean? The case must be ruled Nolle prosequi.

No The last one came to a speedy resolution this one needs to drag out more. I think the issue we are encountering here is you came off like a nice guy so now she assumes everything you say is helpful. Blink

CoolCool

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Lilith Folkvardr
Doomheim
#27 - 2015-07-07 12:10:25 UTC
*Looks at feet and kicks a rock while looking around awkwardly and silent*
De'Nab
Star Nation
Goonswarm Federation
#28 - 2015-07-07 13:06:34 UTC  |  Edited by: De'Nab
I stole several billion isk?

I wish it was but in reality it was closer to just under 2bill & mostly from Forgotten Clone (who I see has stepped down as CEO). Its all sold on now (with the exception of a few T1 mods) so thank you very much.
I honestly very nearly just walked away until an ex-corpie asked me if I'd ever done corp-theft before. So thats another box in my "things to do in Eve" ticked.

Btw, congrats Lillith on making CEO. I'm sure you'll do a much better job. The role should have been yours long ago as you're very capable, approachable & I like you (but I'm sure it's not mutual.......lol)

TOP TIP: Next time you want to move from a C3 to a C4 you should have more than 3 newbies in the WH at any given time otherwise they wont have the skills to do jack or ****.

Until then, I'll be in nullsec.

See you around & fly safe

De'Nab


Quote:
There's no such thing as paranoia in Eve.........everyone really is out to get you
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Nerapa
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2015-07-07 13:21:04 UTC
De'Nab wrote:
I stole several billion isk?

I wish it was but in reality it was closer to just under 2bill & mostly from Forgotten Clone (who I see has stepped down as CEO). Its all sold on now (with the exception of a few T1 mods) so thank you very much.
I honestly very nearly just walked away until an ex-corpie asked me if I'd ever done corp-theft before. So thats another box in my "things to do in Eve" ticked.

Btw, congrats Lillith on making CEO. I'm sure you'll do a much better job. The role should have been yours long ago as you're very capable, approachable & I like you (but I'm sure it's not mutual.......lol)

TOP TIP: Next time you want to move from a C3 to a C4 you should have more than 3 newbies in the WH at any given time otherwise they wont have the skills to do jack or ****.

Until then, I'll be in nullsec.

See you around & fly safe

De'Nab


Quote:
There's no such thing as paranoia in Eve.........everyone really is out to get you
Quote:


De'nab. As your attorney and as I was not present at the time of this typing I am requesting this purged from the court records, with what you have been accused with you are not of fit and sound able mind.

Right honourable Noragen Neirfallas - Will you agree that the above "confession of theft" be removed by the court stenographer

I was not present during questioning nor was any deposition request sent to my firm. My client is clearly stressed from all of this.

Need I cast up the case of our poor EmLock?

TDSIN C5/C5 Recruiting
Mortlake
Republic Military School
#30 - 2015-07-07 13:26:59 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Lilith Folkvardr wrote:
Provided he isn't destroyed in a Carrier or Dread.. Yeah, I have set aside some ISK for this and when that runs out I will with draw the offer, he is in Null last time a I located him, so I don't expect people to go into deep Null looking for him, but if they happen across him, so yeah, should be fine, especially if it is only 200-300mil ISK Battleships :)

He was being sarcastic


See what I mean? The case must be ruled Nolle prosequi.

No The last one came to a speedy resolution this one needs to drag out more. I think the issue we are encountering here is you came off like a nice guy so now she assumes everything you say is helpful. Blink

CoolCool


I feel bad now :(

Sometimes you hit the bar and sometimes the bar hits you...
Dradis Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2015-07-07 13:34:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Dradis Aulmais
So the court accepts that the op is not a nitche alt.

Then i point out the following:

Rule 3. All crimes are commited by Nitche or his alts.

and

The Person in question has come to this court and admited his guilt

The court must therefor declare:

The Op is innocent of corp theft. \
The Op can change the title to CONFIRMED CORP THEFT
De'Nab by admitting his guilt is a nitche alt.


Otherwise the court is run by a nitche alt, everyone in here is a nitche alt. in which case. Fart Fart Fart Trollol Grr Goons.

Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896

Free The Scope Three
De'Nab
Star Nation
Goonswarm Federation
#32 - 2015-07-07 13:54:09 UTC
Nerapa wrote:
De'Nab wrote:
I stole several billion isk?

I wish it was but in reality it was closer to just under 2bill & mostly from Forgotten Clone (who I see has stepped down as CEO). Its all sold on now (with the exception of a few T1 mods) so thank you very much.
I honestly very nearly just walked away until an ex-corpie asked me if I'd ever done corp-theft before. So thats another box in my "things to do in Eve" ticked.

Btw, congrats Lillith on making CEO. I'm sure you'll do a much better job. The role should have been yours long ago as you're very capable, approachable & I like you (but I'm sure it's not mutual.......lol)

TOP TIP: Next time you want to move from a C3 to a C4 you should have more than 3 newbies in the WH at any given time otherwise they wont have the skills to do jack or ****.

Until then, I'll be in nullsec.

See you around & fly safe

De'Nab


Quote:
There's no such thing as paranoia in Eve.........everyone really is out to get you
Quote:


De'nab. As your attorney and as I was not present at the time of this typing I am requesting this purged from the court records, with what you have been accused with you are not of fit and sound able mind.

Right honourable Noragen Neirfallas - Will you agree that the above "confession of theft" be removed by the court stenographer

I was not present during questioning nor was any deposition request sent to my firm. My client is clearly stressed from all of this.

Need I cast up the case of our poor EmLock?


Of sound and able mind?
Can't say I've ever been accused of that before.
screw loose, unhinged, not all there.....are just some of tje nicer descriptions of me
Dradis Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2015-07-07 14:00:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Dradis Aulmais
De'Nab wrote:
Nerapa wrote:
De'Nab wrote:
I stole several billion isk?

I wish it was but in reality it was closer to just under 2bill & mostly from Forgotten Clone (who I see has stepped down as CEO). Its all sold on now (with the exception of a few T1 mods) so thank you very much.
I honestly very nearly just walked away until an ex-corpie asked me if I'd ever done corp-theft before. So thats another box in my "things to do in Eve" ticked.

Btw, congrats Lillith on making CEO. I'm sure you'll do a much better job. The role should have been yours long ago as you're very capable, approachable & I like you (but I'm sure it's not mutual.......lol)

TOP TIP: Next time you want to move from a C3 to a C4 you should have more than 3 newbies in the WH at any given time otherwise they wont have the skills to do jack or ****.

Until then, I'll be in nullsec.

See you around & fly safe

De'Nab


Quote:
There's no such thing as paranoia in Eve.........everyone really is out to get you
Quote:


De'nab. As your attorney and as I was not present at the time of this typing I am requesting this purged from the court records, with what you have been accused with you are not of fit and sound able mind.

Right honourable Noragen Neirfallas - Will you agree that the above "confession of theft" be removed by the court stenographer

I was not present during questioning nor was any deposition request sent to my firm. My client is clearly stressed from all of this.

Need I cast up the case of our poor EmLock?


Of sound and able mind?
Can't say I've ever been accused of that before.
screw loose, unhinged, not all there.....are just some of tje nicer descriptions of me



See he is clearly a Nitche alt. as for His attorneys motion to dismiss the post. I object under case "Whats done is done" if he cant keep his client under control then i have every right to use it against him.

Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896

Free The Scope Three
De'Nab
Star Nation
Goonswarm Federation
#34 - 2015-07-07 15:12:39 UTC
And I demand a body cavity search to prove I dont have those ships anymore!
Dradis Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2015-07-07 15:58:02 UTC
De'Nab wrote:
And I demand a body cavity search to prove I dont have those ships anymore!


yOU ALREADY ADMITED TO YOUR GUILT

what you have now is irrelevant and i suggest you use your lawyer. Nitche Scum

Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896

Free The Scope Three
De'Nab
Star Nation
Goonswarm Federation
#36 - 2015-07-07 16:02:31 UTC
I never said I was guilty.

BOB MADE ME DO IT!!!!!
Dradis Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2015-07-07 16:06:17 UTC
De'Nab wrote:
I stole several billion isk?

I wish it was but in reality it was closer to just under 2bill & mostly from Forgotten Clone (who I see has stepped down as CEO). Its all sold on now (with the exception of a few T1 mods) so thank you very much.
I honestly very nearly just walked away until an ex-corpie asked me if I'd ever done corp-theft before. So thats another box in my "things to do in Eve" ticked.



There you go your own post. Backtracking wont work now Chairman Ellen Pao.

Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896

Free The Scope Three
De'Nab
Star Nation
Goonswarm Federation
#38 - 2015-07-07 16:15:52 UTC
That's not backtracking.
I said I did it but I never admitted any guilt.
I told you, BOB made me do it.
McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
#39 - 2015-07-07 17:22:22 UTC  |  Edited by: McChicken Combo HalfMayo
De'Nab wrote:
That's not backtracking.
I said I did it but I never admitted any guilt.
I told you, BOB made me do it.

People have been using BOB as an excuse for ages. BOB made me steal those ships! BOB made me pod that noob! BOB made me support regulations that restrict two people that love each other from getting married!

I don't buy it.

There are all our dominion

Gate camps: "Its like the lowsec watercooler, just with explosions and boose" - Ralph King-Griffin
De'Nab
Star Nation
Goonswarm Federation
#40 - 2015-07-07 19:08:38 UTC
I almost believed you McChicken......until you brought RL into it.