Out of Pod Experience

Dude. The reason WiS affected WoD is because devs were pulled from WoD to make WiS. White Wolf was cannibalized. WiS and the SC fps module are avatar experiences, and they're both in video games, but the management of the two are hardly relevant beyond that.

There were some good points in the article, like the suitability of the game engine to the gameplay. Cryengine seems odd, but only because SC's goals are lofty--they want the 3D models to take damage based on where they're hit. That isn't so alarming to me.

One reason I believe... believed SC can be successful is the quality of the developers. When you get talented people together, the rate of progress over a team of checkbox degree holders is immense. I haven't heard about the types of management problems that can cause those types of team compositions to fail.

Except for the stretch goal promises thing.

They have a lot of work ahead of them, but the $150M figure for a typical studio isn't automatically damning. That could be for a shipped game, with pre-existing staff, with conventional investor funding. I'm willing to believe the devs working on SC can manage to release playable portions of a game with their budget.

I want to say the prediction that the game will not be made is a bit much. Derek Smart might not be able to comprehend it, but that could just mean he's not the caliber of individual like those working on SC. Talent, creativity, and problem solving are very real skills that are not conferred with degrees. Or experience.

You gain experience, but I'm talking about the ability to make progress when breaking new ground, and integrate past experiences. You don't get better at solving new problems by solving problems, it's an ability people do or don't have. For someone who doesn't have it, and only has conventional points of reference to base their judgment on, yeah, SC could seem impossible.

No idea if he was smart about his own games, using tools like procedural generation. He talks about SC as an undertaking like they're going to texture every square foot of a galaxy. Which makes me think he did things the hard way.

this pretty much. They had no idea WTF they were doing with it, so it went a bit wacko. Same with Dust. they had no idea how to tie it in, so its fell flat.

My issue with SC is they keep adding.. and adding... and adding more and more things. When they should of scaled it down, got the core **** working, then slowly add to that.

CR is not a god, and is not perfect, he had two large failures and 2 successes. If he can;t keep a handle on his time table and features, SC will go down in flames.

I was taking into consideration not only ambulation that was to be scraped because of the engine change as I remember it, but also the avatar exploration concept with demo. They had concept, but these concepts were troubled by technology that was to be updated and this greed thing. EVE spaceship part being in a state of neglect as people were thinking, but it was to be solved by little things, double way thing, fixing EVE and making WIS simultanously, all fuelled by you know what...
There was a strong push to monetize everything in that time one would think, as this monocle gate emerged and even this licensing thing. Someone in upper management was completely parted from gaming and watched only ISK count. By ISK I mean Icelandic Krona.

The article is mostly about flogging his MMO, as far as I can tell. But his points are worth considering.

On paper, CCP's approach makes more sense. They just faceplanted on execution.



The exploration concept came later, and it was done right. It was as much a proof of concept of a sustainable design and development methodology as anything to do with avatar gameplay. I'm sure some of that work is going into the new PVE design and creation tools that CCP says it's working on.

Atlanta had developed some pretty sick environment design tools. I hope somebody kept them.



That'll get you every time.

But it was cancelled. Scolding in monocle gate was painfull as it involved silence in a room where money talks, subbs cancelled. it was painfull, and without direct monetization and a lot of work to redirect again from WoD to it, was probably a thing behind cancelling it.

I'm too sexy for everything in the NeX store.

Even if I do look like Snape. The women love Snape (I'm told).

Delusions of grandeur, Haha. Yes. Delusions that made people take for granted the success of Incarna fuelled by neckbeards with hardon for pretty avatar babes in bikini suits emoting f u to a guy that neary killed him outside station, well just by thinking about it being a possibility, because it was nothing like that.

Unfortunately only few of those stayed to this time. And those who stayed are considering leaving after rest as shift has been made from attire to ship skins. So making WIS bis is not an option in this or other timelines now.

No it wasn't. It ran to completion, and was declared a success by CCP Unifex.

It never made it into the game, but that would have been several new projects anyway, and it would have depended on the existence of tools that CCP either didn't have or hadn't adopted for EVE, specifically environmental and interior design tools. (Which is why I hope they kept the WoD toolset--but it sounds from comments by CCP Affinity that they're starting from scratch, so maybe not.) Team PVE is finally getting some tools, so maybe when they've got those to a good place CCP can revisit this? Or not. In any case, it's not just a question of enabling avatar gameplay. There are implications well beyond that. Another example: there's been the question of what your ship would do while you were running around in a ruined station. Right now, that's kind of awkward. Once CCP has the mooring mechanic shipped, and they can make ruined stations instances of the new shiny space buildings instead of making them LCOs, that question is a lot easier to answer.

If CCP has anything beyond that door they should just implement it and do it while drunk. I don't care if we go falling through the floor into space and end up floating around the station with everybody pointing and laughing.