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Proposed Solution to the Drifter Menace: Slaves

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Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2015-07-08 12:22:38 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Another thread on this forum reports reduced Drifter presence in Amarr. Perhaps the Empress has put my proposal into action. Perhaps she has made a deal with the Drifters to supply a new food source, a more reliable food source. Perhaps the Empress has made a deal to supply the Drifters with Slaves.


Or perhaps the Empress has sic the Golden Fleet at them and, much to the dismay of Matari like myself, was actually successful in burning them off their skies.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#42 - 2015-07-08 17:23:17 UTC
Frenjo Borkstar wrote:
Valerie, I have proposed a heavy graviton beam from the day we started...


And who says the giant laser is to be used against the Drifters ?

Assumptions are dangerous, Dr. Borkstar.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.

Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#43 - 2015-07-08 21:59:03 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
Frenjo Borkstar wrote:
Valerie, I have proposed a heavy graviton beam from the day we started...


And who says the giant laser is to be used against the Drifters ?

Assumptions are dangerous, Dr. Borkstar.


Then it is sad that the Church of the Crimson Savior wishes to aim a Giant Laser at me. We used to get along better.
Anyanka Funk
Doomheim
#44 - 2015-07-09 00:24:02 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Valerie Valate wrote:
Frenjo Borkstar wrote:
Valerie, I have proposed a heavy graviton beam from the day we started...


And who says the giant laser is to be used against the Drifters ?

Assumptions are dangerous, Dr. Borkstar.


Then it is sad that the Church of the Crimson Savior wishes to aim a Giant Laser at me. We used to get along better.


The so-called "church" sides with transhumanists, Nauplius. They are no better than a pack of "blonde" wild tribals.
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#45 - 2015-07-09 16:43:12 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Then it is sad that the Church of the Crimson Savior wishes to aim a Giant Laser at me. We used to get along better.


You would try the patience of a Saint, Nauplius. And I am not a Saint. Yet.


I do not particularly wish to aim a giant laser at you.

However, every time I have discussed the Scriptures with you, you appear to utterly miss whatever point I was making at the time, and conclude that I must have been recommending sacrificing more Minmatar slaves.

I discuss the Scriptures about fashion and modes of dress = You see this as proof that more Minmatar must be sacrificed.

I discuss the Scriptures about Righteousness and how all are Welcome to be Chosen = You see this as proof that more Minmatar must be sacrificed.

I discuss the Scriptures that the Takmahl had Written = You see this as proof that more Minmatar must be sacrificed.

A pattern develops.


What this shows is that, either I am terrible at giving Scriptural advice, or you are terrible at receiving it.

And since I am the greatest Sani Sabik theophilosopher capsuleer of the modern era, I think I know which of those two scenarios is the case.



Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.

Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#46 - 2015-07-09 17:00:49 UTC
Anyanka Funk wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
Valerie Valate wrote:
Frenjo Borkstar wrote:
Valerie, I have proposed a heavy graviton beam from the day we started...


And who says the giant laser is to be used against the Drifters ?

Assumptions are dangerous, Dr. Borkstar.


Then it is sad that the Church of the Crimson Savior wishes to aim a Giant Laser at me. We used to get along better.


The so-called "church" sides with transhumanists, Nauplius. They are no better than a pack of "blonde" wild tribals.


I take it Saede regretted bringing you in like refuse.
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#47 - 2015-07-09 17:19:33 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
Anyanka Funk wrote:

The so-called "church" sides with transhumanists, Nauplius. They are no better than a pack of "blonde" wild tribals.

I take it Saede regretted bringing you in like refuse.


Oh, this is a good one, Tiberious.

I'm not sure why blonde is in quotes, other than perhaps to suggest that I'm not naturally blonde.

Which is laughable enough in itself.

However, there's more.

A couple of days ago, Anyanka contacted me, asking if I wanted to go to Origin.

I responded asking why I would want to do such a thing. And then she told me that a wormhole existed in Abaim to Origin.

I assumed this was some kind of trap, perpetrated by Alexylva Paradox, to lure me to destruction. I assumed that, because I had not checked Anyanka's employment record recently.

Anyway, I was curious as to why such a laughably transparent trap would be attempted, so a CTCS agent investigated, and found that a wormhole from Abaim to Origin did indeed exist. My agent traversed the wormhole, and observed no ships on the other side, though long range scans showed one Alexylva Paradox ship present in system, a Stratios.

Naturally, I put on my most favourite gloating hat, and by chance, observed a Paradox pilot talk in the Summit. I inquired of them if they had a ship of the name of the one that my agent had scanned, and they said "Yes ? Why ?"

I then began to explain how their laughably transparent trap had failed, and that my agent had free roam of their system, but before I had entered into full flow, they asked what in Gods name I was on about.

Whereupon it was revealed that it was not, in fact, a trap set for myself, but some other scheme involving Anyanka, and at this point I checked her employment record, and saw she was no longer employed in Origin.

Later in the Summit, one of Anyanka's associates was trying to give away "free stuff", which I assume were stolen goods stolen from somewhere in Origin.

The last piece of the puzzle then fell into place. Anyanka was obviously expecting me, to be the unwitting courier of stolen property out of Origin, and conducted a ludicrously transparent scheme to facilitate this. Which I had inadvertently revealed to the Origin inhabitants, when I had told them their trap had failed. Thusly alerted, they presumably chased down Anyanka and/or her associates that were in Origin.

And that's why Anyanka is a little ticked off at me today, because I saw through her plan.

Transparent as a pane of glass.


But then again, I am the greatest Sani Sabik capsuleer theophilosopher of the modern era, so not much gets by me.


Haahahahahahaaaaaahaahahahahahahaeeeheheheheheeeehehehahaaaahaa.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.

Anyanka Funk
Doomheim
#48 - 2015-07-09 21:31:12 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
Anyanka Funk wrote:

The so-called "church" sides with transhumanists, Nauplius. They are no better than a pack of "blonde" wild tribals.

I take it Saede regretted bringing you in like refuse.


Oh, this is a good one, Tiberious.

I'm not sure why blonde is in quotes, other than perhaps to suggest that I'm not naturally blonde.

Which is laughable enough in itself.

However, there's more.

A couple of days ago, Anyanka contacted me, asking if I wanted to go to Origin.

I responded asking why I would want to do such a thing. And then she told me that a wormhole existed in Abaim to Origin.

I assumed this was some kind of trap, perpetrated by Alexylva Paradox, to lure me to destruction. I assumed that, because I had not checked Anyanka's employment record recently.

Anyway, I was curious as to why such a laughably transparent trap would be attempted, so a CTCS agent investigated, and found that a wormhole from Abaim to Origin did indeed exist. My agent traversed the wormhole, and observed no ships on the other side, though long range scans showed one Alexylva Paradox ship present in system, a Stratios.

Naturally, I put on my most favourite gloating hat, and by chance, observed a Paradox pilot talk in the Summit. I inquired of them if they had a ship of the name of the one that my agent had scanned, and they said "Yes ? Why ?"

I then began to explain how their laughably transparent trap had failed, and that my agent had free roam of their system, but before I had entered into full flow, they asked what in Gods name I was on about.

Whereupon it was revealed that it was not, in fact, a trap set for myself, but some other scheme involving Anyanka, and at this point I checked her employment record, and saw she was no longer employed in Origin.

Later in the Summit, one of Anyanka's associates was trying to give away "free stuff", which I assume were stolen goods stolen from somewhere in Origin.

The last piece of the puzzle then fell into place. Anyanka was obviously expecting me, to be the unwitting courier of stolen property out of Origin, and conducted a ludicrously transparent scheme to facilitate this. Which I had inadvertently revealed to the Origin inhabitants, when I had told them their trap had failed. Thusly alerted, they presumably chased down Anyanka and/or her associates that were in Origin.

And that's why Anyanka is a little ticked off at me today, because I saw through her plan.

Transparent as a pane of glass.


But then again, I am the greatest Sani Sabik capsuleer theophilosopher of the modern era, so not much gets by me.


Haahahahahahaaaaaahaahahahahahahaeeeheheheheheeeehehehahaaaahaa.


This is a severe derailment of the original post!
Anslo
Scope Works
#49 - 2015-07-09 21:51:17 UTC
Anyanka Funk wrote:
This is a severe derailment of the original post!


Your existence is a severe derailment of our species.

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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#50 - 2015-07-09 22:35:29 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Anyanka Funk wrote:
This is a severe derailment of the original post!


Your existence is a severe derailment of our species.

Said a severe derailment of all sentient lifeforms.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#51 - 2015-07-09 22:37:07 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Anyanka Funk wrote:
This is a severe derailment of the original post!

Your existence is a severe derailment of our species.

So's the original post.

Or something.
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#52 - 2015-07-09 23:28:26 UTC
This had got to be one of the more despicable ideas I have ever heard.

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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#53 - 2015-07-10 00:36:59 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
Then it is sad that the Church of the Crimson Savior wishes to aim a Giant Laser at me. We used to get along better.


You would try the patience of a Saint, Nauplius. And I am not a Saint. Yet.


I do not particularly wish to aim a giant laser at you.

However, every time I have discussed the Scriptures with you, you appear to utterly miss whatever point I was making at the time, and conclude that I must have been recommending sacrificing more Minmatar slaves.

I discuss the Scriptures about fashion and modes of dress = You see this as proof that more Minmatar must be sacrificed.

I discuss the Scriptures about Righteousness and how all are Welcome to be Chosen = You see this as proof that more Minmatar must be sacrificed.

I discuss the Scriptures that the Takmahl had Written = You see this as proof that more Minmatar must be sacrificed.

A pattern develops.


What this shows is that, either I am terrible at giving Scriptural advice, or you are terrible at receiving it.

And since I am the greatest Sani Sabik theophilosopher capsuleer of the modern era, I think I know which of those two scenarios is the case.





I get your "points". However, I interpret the Scriptures differently. For example, I interpret the Apocryphon not as saying Minmatar are welcome to be Chosen, but as saying that one born Minmatar can become Chosen by undergoing De-Minmatarization or by sacrificing Minmatar of three bloodlines upon the Altar of God. All Scriptures are to be interpreted through the lens of their central event — the sacrifice of Molok the Deceiver upon the Altar of God. Corrections must be made to the canonical Scriptures to account for liberal corruptions and interpolations. Do this, and you will understand.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#54 - 2015-07-10 01:39:49 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
I get your "points". However, I interpret the Scriptures differently. For example, I interpret the Apocryphon not as saying Minmatar are welcome to be Chosen, but as saying that one born Minmatar can become Chosen by undergoing De-Minmatarization or by sacrificing Minmatar of three bloodlines upon the Altar of God. All Scriptures are to be interpreted through the lens of their central event — the sacrifice of Molok the Deceiver upon the Altar of God. Corrections must be made to the canonical Scriptures to account for liberal corruptions and interpolations. Do this, and you will understand.

"'For Nauplius and I are Best Buds! To Him is Insight Given to Correct Holy Writ, for to Him Alone are My Revelations Granted. Now, get Me a Glass of Blood, Straight, and Keep them Coming. Bwahahahahahaha!' saith God."



I feel we shouldn't expect much of a difference between Nauplius and his deity.
Vlad Draculesti
M4gnum P.I.
#55 - 2015-07-10 06:07:42 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
I propose the following solution to the Drifter crisis:

  1. At the moment, the Drifters collect Empyrean corpses but do not have an interest in other food sources. They must be trained to prefer something else: Minmatar Slaves. Each pilot in New Eden should travel with a supply of Slaves in his cargo hold. When encountering Drifters at a stargate or station or Jove Observatory or other location, he should eject some of these Slaves into space and label the resulting jetcan something enticing, such as "Drifter Food" or "Eat Me" or whatnot.
  2. Once the Drifters have learned to accept Slaves, the Empress should negotiate immunity from Drifter attack on behalf of the Chosen People of God in return for a steady supply of Minmatar Slaves. Of course, slave breeding programs would have to be accelerated in order to account for the increased demand.


I see no downsides to this program. The sacrifice of Minmatar slaves is of no concern, for God has given that people over to destruction for their many crimes and rebellions against God and his Chosen. Amen. Amarr Victor.



I believe this would be a bad idea. Currently we understand that the Drifters use the capsuleers corpses - repurpose / re animate them and then have them pilot the Tyrannos ships. Currently they are only scavenging corpses from capsuleers that were unable to evade them - or stupid enough to try and fight them alone. Feeding them a large supply bodies will do nothing but bolster their numbers - especially if you are dropping a jet can full of bodies instead of a single body that's retrieved from a capsuleer.


I believe your stupidity is caused by your fear of these Drifters. Do you really believe they will ignore you if you supply them with corpses? Once they bolster their army they will come after you for more. You would only be buying yourself little time, at best.
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#56 - 2015-07-10 11:37:15 UTC
I think the whole cluster, Amarr, Minmatar, Sabik and everyone else gave up on expecting any kind of a sensible 'plan', or even 'behaviour' from Mr. Nauplius and Ms. Funk.

You two should get back to setting up control towers in the Bleak Lands again. Whilst those were also bloody ridiculous, at least they were more tangible.

Also, target practice.
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Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2015-07-10 13:54:20 UTC
Leopold Caine wrote:
I think the whole cluster, Amarr, Minmatar, Sabik and everyone else gave up on expecting any kind of a sensible 'plan', or even 'behaviour' from Mr. Nauplius and Ms. Funk.

You two should get back to setting up control towers in the Bleak Lands again. Whilst those were also bloody ridiculous, at least they were more tangible.

Also, target practice.


I suspect you are bored and want something big and erect to shoot.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#58 - 2015-07-10 14:54:20 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
I suspect you are bored and want something big and erect to shoot.

Um....

Did "shooting at towers" stop being a synonym for "grinding tedium" at some point?
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#59 - 2015-07-10 14:55:49 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
I suspect you are bored and want something big and erect to shoot.

Um....
Did "shooting at towers" stop being a synonym for "grinding tedium" at some point?


Not really, the point of the statement seems to be far more about phallic humour, than the practicality of it all.

Hurrr, "rods".

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.

Enya Sparhawk
Black Tea and Talons
#60 - 2015-07-10 21:04:57 UTC
You bicker amongst yourselves...

You may not need to feed this threat if they decide to take over what is left of this weakened empire for themselves...

True Slaves

War is upon your doorsteps...

Fíorghrá: Grá na fírinne

Maireann croí éadrom i bhfad.

Bíonn súil le muir ach ní bhíonn súil le tír.

Is maith an scéalaí an aimsir.

When the lost ships of Greece finally return home...