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EvE Online the game that does not want new players!

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Hiply Rustic
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2015-07-03 18:08:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Hiply Rustic
Divine Entervention wrote:
Hiply Rustic wrote:

Suggesting that SP just be handed out like candy for the simple act of creating a character is asinine.


In your opinion, of course.

Definitely not a fact.


Of course it's my opinion. I don't see much in this thread that isn't an opinion one way or another (other than the anecdotes shared by a couple of recent newbros)...do you?

Ralph King-Griffin wrote: "Eve deliberately excludes the stupid and the weak willied." EvE: Only the strong-willied need apply.

Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#42 - 2015-07-03 18:11:51 UTC
I was playing from day one, found a corp eventually and died by marmite on my way to wherever they lived, losing my catalyst and belongings.


Next corp was run by a Russian, whom went on vacation for a week and we got awoxed to hell and back, then we left and made our own corp only to be decced by a single man Russian corp who killed us all in a hawk, and got a gila when he couldn't catch a rep frigate.


So yeah. HTFU

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?

Marsha Mallow
#43 - 2015-07-03 18:32:18 UTC
Elsa Hayes wrote:
Today I was lurking in the recruitment chat and found a new guy asking around for a noob friendly corp, after some minutes, probably half an hour, he asked if this game hated new players since seemingly no one wanted to recruit him and all the people responding told him went to tell him to "sit it out " and wait a month or two.....even keeping in mind he was trolling is this for real?

This could be resolved by stricter rules in recruitment channel. I agree, it is a hellhole and new players who go in are probably baffled by the way people speak to them. Rookie chat has rules (no caps etc) and is moderated by ISDs. Quite a few vets sit in there (and help channel), but for some reason recruitment chat has been left in it's abysmal state without remark. Most vets avoid it because they know just how awful it is. If it can't be fixed it might as well be removed. In it's current state it's probably hurting recruitment and player retention.

Repost your comments in the NPE feedback thread, and don't get all worked up because people are arguing with you in GD. It's partly to do with the way you've presented your idea, but a lot of people are as concerned as you about the NPE and have reasonable ideas about how to improve it.

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day

Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#44 - 2015-07-03 18:44:38 UTC
and back in the 800k sp starter character days it was super easy to make a character with a ton of useless skill points (I'm still bitter about starting with missile bombardment 5 instead of something useful like small turret 5, or drones 5). And on top of that there were learning skills. Plus most ships were undesirable due to the tier system, unless you think having lower stats, less slots, and often not so great bonuses was a valid trade for slightly lower cost. the merlin had a turret optimal bonus and 2 turret slots plus 2 missile slots.

Also in those days most corps still didn't want newbs as the number of people that would join up and disappear was high. An SP limit meant that people at least had some intention of sticking with it. plus the whole potential of spying. pretty easy to not make a mistake that gives you up via your API with a brand new character. A bit harder with an established character, unless you know you want to use it as a spy at some point.

Personally I love new players and will happily help them out on the forums. As far as recruiting goes I've never really had to deal with it. Started playing because an RL friend said to and that got me into IDLE. but seeing as IDLE has all gone idle, maybe I should look into that again at some point.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter

d0cTeR9
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#45 - 2015-07-03 19:04:14 UTC  |  Edited by: d0cTeR9
[Insert Whining of kids that want everything right now]

Yes EVE-Online is a tough game.
Yes EVE-Online has a learning curve.
Yes EVE-Online is not noob-friendly (it sure is a LOT more noob friendly than way back then!).
Yes some people troll and yes some people get butt-hurt.

Want me to hold your hand IRL too?

Plenty of corporations/alliances that recruit new players and teach them a lot.

Been around since the beginning.

Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2015-07-03 19:04:43 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Throw a million darts over your shoulder and some of them will hit the board.
Does not apply, because humans are not equal. There is no "random chance" when it comes to people being able to play EVE ONLINE (or in regards to anything else, for that matter). Fascinating how no one speaks it out, while I keep baiting for it.

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#47 - 2015-07-03 19:06:52 UTC
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