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A change to c6 wormhole space

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Ariete
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#101 - 2015-08-10 19:02:55 UTC
I think C6 and C5 wormholes themselves are fine as they are. Capital Escalations need a bit of work, just have the triggers for the next wave to be random, infect have that on all sleeper sites C1 to C6.

The issue is with the players some will fight others will log off or role the hole on sight of a scanning ship. That can't be fixed in game, giving people a fair fight and embracing the death with the victories will actually fix it. Anyone who fights and stands their ground will get respect be it farmers or pvpers.

Wormholes are a interesting people where we could be fighting one minute and helping each other out the next, the red doughnut as i see it. I think some people have forgotten this over the years.
KPomgPL
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#102 - 2015-09-30 10:00:18 UTC
c1 space is pretty stagnant and empty too, lets disable PI in wh...

Farmers in c5/6 are not a problem. They are perfect targets for small gangs.
If you really want a fight in particular system, just setup a POS there and RF their POS maybe.
It is like 99% chance someone will come and fight you in next couple of hours(a day maybe).

Don't forget farmer corps exists because we all let them exist. We have better things to do than chasing them and just have not enough pvp corps in wspace.

It is obvious that there is a nullsec lobby in every academy corporation and they tell new players they can earn billions in nullsec and wh is not for them because of skills. Somehow they forget to mention that 7 day char can earn 120m per hour on afk just investing in 11m venture.

How big corporations/alliances can instantly populate wspace? Just split.
Make a second corp with alts in another wh and you will have your content doubled.
If your scout find sth in chain just log into this chain. No boredom for active ppl anymore ;P
Blizzaro
Free Throbbing Veinal Penii For Spacmens
#103 - 2015-10-13 11:10:00 UTC
Bleedingthrough wrote:
If you remove all the non krabs only the krabs will remain.


Why not become the krab hunter?

Oh wait you just want to Krab all day and not actually put effort into getting kills just like all the other lazy lazy spurgelords calling for changes to c5/6 space
Bleedingthrough
#104 - 2015-10-13 14:59:46 UTC
Blizzaro wrote:
Bleedingthrough wrote:
If you remove all the non krabs only the krabs will remain.


Why not become the krab hunter?

Oh wait you just want to Krab all day and not actually put effort into getting kills just like all the other lazy lazy spurgelords calling for changes to c5/6 space


The people your group has evicted are by no means krabs. They might be bad or have low numbers but these guys were the guys providing the little skirmishes many people enjoyed.

Calling them krabs is just a stupid excuse to get content/killmails (by destroying content).

The new type of Krab (the real krabs) you installed now are all about efficiency. They have minimum assets in their WH and never fight nor could. If you don't stumble across them while they krab it is not worth investing time on them. Only one cap on the field or even SB in red giants. Unlike evicting PvPers if the krabber is somewhat efficient you will only be able to kill a stick ...

And yes this has much to do how C6 WH work (easy to roll into a specific WH) and the way capital escalations can be done with only a few people.

And the mentality that the strongest groups in WH space team up to protect this krabbing ground is beyond me. I don't understand it.

Jack Miton
Perkone
Caldari State
#105 - 2015-10-13 22:34:09 UTC
Dont encourage him man... no point.

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Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#106 - 2015-10-17 00:50:41 UTC
I don't know anything about wormholes except for what I read here and on reddit and the few times I've run low class sites but - why don't all the honorable pvp wormhole corps and friends declare a holy jihad against the red krab menace and not rest until it is banished?

From what I read about the Dropbearsr eviction the Russians and friends just utilized weaponized boredom and content denial fleets (petes) to clear the hole...why would anyone not a Russian RMT'er support that?
Ayiana Valerii
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#107 - 2015-10-27 12:24:33 UTC
Waldemar Pawlak wrote:
Trinkets friend wrote:
mate. He called you a carebear.

and a low-skill rent-boy carebear, at that!


Ah, that I don't mind. I am more concerned with the fact that in his assessment he doesn't take logistics and isk investments required to run c5 and c6 sites. :|


Lol.
Incursions take more logistics and ISK investment than running sites in c5/c6.
At least they have to move more. You guys don't even have to move around.
Just sit on your ass in your home after you crit your hole.

Ha.... carebears wannabe elite pvp
Ayiana Valerii
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#108 - 2015-10-27 12:34:02 UTC
Hidden Fremen wrote:
C6-space is for farming. You don't like it? Change it. But the perception is years old. Others farm anomalies, we farm krabs.

Best thing in this thread is how unfair life is for Viperfleet and complaining they have to scan for content. People go to where content grows. Do you still wonder why recruitment escapes you?


You farm C5/C6 holes as much as farmers do.
You should teach your people to either log off in their caps or leave them in SMAs and not let them floating in the POS.
Tell them we can see the corp tags even if the ship is not piloted.
Ayiana Valerii
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#109 - 2015-10-27 12:46:51 UTC
Arcturus Gallow wrote:
What Wspace would need would be new blood.

I tried to create this, but setting up in high class as a new group is very hard. First making money as a group in C5 is not as easy as most seems to think.


You need 6 people in ships worth a total of 2bil isk to run garnisons in your static.
How difficult is that?

Giving fights it's easy. You don't even have to do it in T3s but you have to accept you will be farmed by lzh and friends.
I guess you took the easy way and joined them instead of giving them fights.

Better than being farmed right? :)
Ayiana Valerii
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#110 - 2015-10-27 13:01:24 UTC
Hidden Fremen wrote:
Sten Taxi wrote:
[quote=Hidden Fremen]
If you want PvP to thrive in C6, you're going to have to work for it. Systematically install PvP corporations in place of the farmers.

..... yet here you are, wasting everyone's time, worrying about space already inhabited by krabs, bears, farmers, wtv. If anyone is hypocritical, it's you all rabbling on forums about how things should be while you sit around doing nothing about it yourselves.



You made a mess and expect others to fix it?

Nice trolling there :)
Borsek
Shadow State
Goonswarm Federation
#111 - 2015-10-27 13:44:03 UTC
Dude... like why did you make 4 consecutive posts? You just brought the dead back to life. Why?
Ayiana Valerii
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#112 - 2015-10-27 13:51:40 UTC
Borsek wrote:
Dude... like why did you make 4 consecutive posts? You just brought the dead back to life. Why?


Because i read the entire thread. I didn't plan to respond to 4 posts ahead of time you know....
Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#113 - 2015-10-27 14:07:14 UTC
Ayiana, you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm not complaining; I'm actually declaring C6 to be for krabbing only.
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#114 - 2015-10-27 14:48:36 UTC
you had to wait 2 minutes to make all those posts. It's incredible that you care that much

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy

Ayiana Valerii
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#115 - 2015-10-27 15:09:19 UTC
Hidden Fremen wrote:
Ayiana, you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm not complaining; I'm actually declaring C6 to be for krabbing only.


So, in the end, the 'we evicted krabs' while nor your corp (and friends) is using those for farming was nothing more trolling everyone else Twisted
Second Larry
Doomheim
#116 - 2015-10-27 16:38:09 UTC
Hidden Fremen wrote:
Ayiana, you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm not complaining; I'm actually declaring C6 to be for krabbing only.


This game is box of sand. Do stop tell me of correct place and way of play and I will no tell you to stop stroking own ego.
Rek Seven
The Persuaders
#117 - 2015-10-27 20:16:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Rek Seven
Phoenix Jones
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#118 - 2015-10-27 20:44:55 UTC

Tinfoil. Heck they asked people not to record it so they can't be held for not doing it.

Pie in the sky concepts that don't address the c6 concerns.

The issue isn't rats, it's that c6 (as well as all other wormholes) can isolate themselves and basically make a locked out instance for themselves where they can pve till the end of days). There's little risk, and if you get caught, big whoop you lost a dread.

Now with the cap changes doing solo instances will be much more difficult (theoretically).

Yaay!!!!

Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#119 - 2015-10-27 22:01:30 UTC
Second Larry wrote:
Hidden Fremen wrote:
Ayiana, you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm not complaining; I'm actually declaring C6 to be for krabbing only.


This game is box of sand. Do stop tell me of correct place and way of play and I will no tell you to stop stroking own ego.

It's my sandbox.
Winthorp
#120 - 2015-10-28 04:06:43 UTC
Hidden Fremen wrote:
Second Larry wrote:
Hidden Fremen wrote:
Ayiana, you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm not complaining; I'm actually declaring C6 to be for krabbing only.


This game is box of sand. Do stop tell me of correct place and way of play and I will no tell you to stop stroking own ego.

It's my sandbox.


They can't downvote you here m8.