EVE General Discussion

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Neat idea, but Id rather see BP's for that ingame :)

Yes, and until they do, they have no purpose and could at that time be introduced in some way that's worth-while. The NeX is not needed. And seeing as how Dust is going to use ISK as well, and there is pretty much nothing that points to AUR having any additional purpose in EVE aside from maybe bribing bunnies so they don't have to buy it themselves (because in that game, AUR has a purpose as an MT currency but that only raises the question of why we should pay them real money for stuff that only exists in their game), it is not needed in EVE for the two to be integrated.

Even if AUR is the way to bribe some cheap-ass bunny, there is still no need to have AUR as a functional item in EVE. Sure, split those PLEXes up in more useful tradeable units to be doled out to the dust bunnies, but it can still be left completely outside of the EVE economy and simply serve that one purpose.
How did it change the meaning? He is saying that AUR is not something people aim to buy — it's a pointless intermediary stage with the sole purpose of immediately being flushed from the system — and as a result, you could remove that and its only use (the NeX) from the game without any ill effects. Anything and everything it does could (and should) be done with ISK instead.

Oh come on Tippia, you know they have to run this thing for a while on the EVE side of things to work all of the kinks out of it (and likely get people used to the idea). I'm sure they would also like to stimulate the PLEX market even more and make a bit of additional coin.

I'm not entirely at odds with you on the use of the AURUM currency instead of ISK in these transactions, and would likely be right there with you if we only had to take EVE's economy into consideration. But that is not the case, and we are not working with very complete information as to how AURUM will be used in the DUST/EVE shared economy.

The sketchy information we have thus far seems to indicate that AURUM in DUST will be purchased with cash and be the only way the INITIAL purchase of certain items can be done. It is hinted that these items can later be resold for ISK, but I don't think that has been confirmed. AURUM is there to provide a very clear division between items that can be purchased initially for ISK and items that required a cash outlay to initially obtain (thus providing the necessary revenue stream from DUST).

I point this out by to try and be as completely forthright on the issue as possible, as this actually lends more weight to your argument.

Perhaps CCP can eliminate the use of AURUM in EVE, or perhaps this is complicated by Sony's involvement in the purchase of in game currency. We really don't know enough details about the two economies and how they intersect (or CCP's agreements with Sony) to make any well informed judgements either way at this point.

For my part, I'm fine with it either way. As long as:

The economy works for both games.
Player based industries are included as much as possible.
It is financially viable and profitable for CCP.

No, I'm not expecting that "full steam ahead" really. Last Alliance tournent was pre NeX Carna unsub protest and I think CCP have realized the player base does not accept their plans for microtransactions (or at least realizes that there will be a heavy price to be paid in subscriptions for this line of thinking.

Dust is another can of worms really. I think its a mistake to see it as intrinsically linked to Eve's future. Eve will need to survive if Dust crashes and burns. I believe CCP know this as well.

Well this CSM meeting in Iceland this weekend should let us have an idea where things are going.

I think it's funny that some people still don't realise that you can pay to win.

Buy plex -> sell plex -> buy bigger ship than the other guy.

The only difference that EVE has from other Pay to win games, is that players can still use ingame currency to buy the same advantage, it just takes them longer.

I know what you are trying to say, but your last sentence invalidates the first one.

I'd pay aurum for a forum ban for Jade Constantine