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[PPC] Pakhshi Peace Conference - Final Draft

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Matar Ronin
#21 - 2015-06-29 02:44:20 UTC
Liam Antolliere wrote:
On behalf of the administration and delegation of the Pakhshi Peace Conference;

For immediate release to the public,

Below is a GalNet link to the public hosting of the findings and proposals of the commissions of the PPC. Contained within the document is a foreword from the administrators and a closing word from the chair along with the list of delegates on each commission, each commission's purpose, proposal and findings.

This document will be distributed through private mailing contacts to representatives of every major political power and organization with a public contact and believed to be interested in the pursuit of the conference's goal(s).

---=={X}==---

PPC Final Draft



Sadly after all the work put in by some well meaning people this document comes up short.

You failed to understand the sincere an essential nature of the single simple uncompromising eloquent statement, "No Abolition, No Peace!"

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.

Liam Antolliere
Doomheim
#22 - 2015-06-29 03:22:25 UTC
Matar Ronin wrote:
You failed to understand the sincere an essential nature of the single simple uncompromising eloquent statement, "No Abolition, No Peace!"


To put a finer point on it, Monsieur Ronin;

The delegation for the Minmatar Republic and the interests of slavery and its abolition failed to take the hard line stance you have chosen to take. Perhaps next time, you'll find the courage and will to step down from your throne and represent that stance yourself.

Until then, Godspeed.

"Though the people may hate me, that does not relieve me of my charge."

Matar Ronin
#23 - 2015-06-29 06:08:08 UTC
Liam Antolliere wrote:
Matar Ronin wrote:
You failed to understand the sincere an essential nature of the single simple uncompromising eloquent statement, "No Abolition, No Peace!"


To put a finer point on it, Monsieur Ronin;

The delegation for the Minmatar Republic and the interests of slavery and its abolition failed to take the hard line stance you have chosen to take. Perhaps next time, you'll find the courage and will to step down from your throne and represent that stance yourself.

Until then, Godspeed.
You've done so much patting yourself on the back you must be double jointed. You bunch of heroes sat down and talked. Hardly the most courageous thing a person can do.

You tried to put on a good showing, I can see that, but you were unable to make the hard choice for the Matari people. Sure tell the Gallente to get off Caldari Prime but let's not upset the slavery cult empire because we like their faux faith and slick sounding titles. But worse than simply failing, you world class failed by proclaiming "slavery" legal in New Eden, a huge step against the Matari people.

You address war crimes because it effects all the rest of you, but you condone and make legal crimes against humanity, so long as that humanity is Matari, you are a disgrace.

You tried for fame and success in the pursuit of peace, you failed on both counts, your fifteen minutes are up.

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.

Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#24 - 2015-06-29 06:24:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Utari Onzo
Matar Ronin wrote:
Liam Antolliere wrote:
Matar Ronin wrote:
You failed to understand the sincere an essential nature of the single simple uncompromising eloquent statement, "No Abolition, No Peace!"


To put a finer point on it, Monsieur Ronin;

The delegation for the Minmatar Republic and the interests of slavery and its abolition failed to take the hard line stance you have chosen to take. Perhaps next time, you'll find the courage and will to step down from your throne and represent that stance yourself.

Until then, Godspeed.
You've done so much patting yourself on the back you must be double jointed. You bunch of heroes sat down and talked. Hardly the most courageous thing a person can do.

You tried to put on a good showing, I can see that, but you were unable to make the hard choice for the Matari people. Sure tell the Gallente to get off Caldari Prime but let's not upset the slavery cult empire because we like their faux faith and slick sounding titles. But worse than simply failing, you world class failed by proclaiming "slavery" legal in New Eden, a huge step against the Matari people.

You address war crimes because it effects all the rest of you, but you condone and make legal crimes against humanity, so long as that humanity is Matari, you are a disgrace.

You tried for fame and success in the pursuit of peace, you failed on both counts, your fifteen minutes are up.


And so are yours, you pitiful excuss for a forum troll.

I can attest to one Matari delegate who would not hesitate in gunning me down if she had the chance, but who conducted herself with the utmost decorum and civility. She has, frankly, done more to cause actual harm to the Empires you ever had. You're a soap box while she's an actual threat. You had a chance to participate and turned it down, she assisted in helping shape it. As much as I think she despises me with a passion, I hope this delegate understands when I say she's worth infinitely more to the Matari people then a thousand of you.

Now, in blunter language then my honourable opponant in the militia war Mr Antolliere. **** off.

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"

Matar Ronin
#25 - 2015-06-29 06:54:26 UTC
Utari Onzo wrote:
Matar Ronin wrote:
Liam Antolliere wrote:
Matar Ronin wrote:
You failed to understand the sincere an essential nature of the single simple uncompromising eloquent statement, "No Abolition, No Peace!"


To put a finer point on it, Monsieur Ronin;

The delegation for the Minmatar Republic and the interests of slavery and its abolition failed to take the hard line stance you have chosen to take. Perhaps next time, you'll find the courage and will to step down from your throne and represent that stance yourself.

Until then, Godspeed.
You've done so much patting yourself on the back you must be double jointed. You bunch of heroes sat down and talked. Hardly the most courageous thing a person can do.

You tried to put on a good showing, I can see that, but you were unable to make the hard choice for the Matari people. Sure tell the Gallente to get off Caldari Prime but let's not upset the slavery cult empire because we like their faux faith and slick sounding titles. But worse than simply failing, you world class failed by proclaiming "slavery" legal in New Eden, a huge step against the Matari people.

You address war crimes because it effects all the rest of you, but you condone and make legal crimes against humanity, so long as that humanity is Matari, you are a disgrace.

You tried for fame and success in the pursuit of peace, you failed on both counts, your fifteen minutes are up.


And so are yours, you pitiful excus for a forum troll.

I can attest to one Matari delegate who would not hesitate in gunning me down if she had the chance, but who conducted herself with the ut most decorum and civility. She has, frankly, done more to cause actual harm to the Empires you ever had. You're a soap box while she's an actual threat. You had a chance to participate and turned it down, she assisted in helping shape it. As much as I think she despises me with a passion, I hope this delegate understands when I say she's worth infinitely more to the Matari people then a thousand of you.

Now, in blunter language then my honourable opponant in the militia war Mr Antolliere. **** off.
Four asterisks ..... you PIE slices are so entertaining ..... so brave, so fierce, yet you never undock alone. Live a year in null sec hero. Without your pals and just your wits. You'd be useless in a month because you most likely have no building skills, no mining skills, just an itchy trigger finger. You spent all your time learning to shoot at targets you outnumber, and where you can quickly re-clone. Your version of honorable militia combat is currently losing ground, correct?

So I do not think much for your opinion of combat effectiveness against the demonic slavery cult, you are not smart enough to even know when you are losing. Pray to your demon that your capsuleer on that throne of blood can pull another super weapon out of her .... hat, the next time a Minmatar Rescue Fleet shows up on your doorstep because last time all you admirals got your collective behinds kicked. Oh yeah and good luck with the war against the Jove, I am so looking forward to you doing that dance again.

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.

iyammarrok
Drunken Beaver Mining
Gnawthority
#26 - 2015-06-29 08:45:12 UTC
Do be silent Ronin,
Your republic's Delegates understood the simple premise that immediate abolition would cripple both Matar and Amarr, They took the better route.

something in your narrow view on the world you would have failed to even see.

If you must be so blind, do so elsewhere, this thread concerns peace, not your arrogant warmongering.

Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated.

Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#27 - 2015-06-29 08:51:15 UTC
Why do you all continue to answer to him... ?
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#28 - 2015-06-29 10:29:47 UTC
A congratulations to the participants of the conference in reaching agreement on their submission to the CONCORD Assembly suggestions box. I am certain, as recent events have shown, the Inner Circle takes any and all capsuleer concerns seriously and will take the time and have the interest to address all the points raised with the gravity such an effort deserves.

I did have a chuckle about War Crimes when I imagined the delegates of Yulai signatories trying to agree on the wording of those articles. It's like deciding what kind of rope is preferred before hanging yourself from the gallows of self-implication.

Best not to hang yourself at all!

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Liam Antolliere
Doomheim
#29 - 2015-06-29 11:10:07 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
A congratulations to the participants of the conference in reaching agreement on their submission to the CONCORD Assembly suggestions box. I am certain, as recent events have shown, the Inner Circle takes any and all capsuleer concerns seriously and will take the time and have the interest to address all the points raised with the gravity such an effort deserves.

I did have a chuckle about War Crimes when I imagined the delegates of Yulai signatories trying to agree on the wording of those articles. It's like deciding what kind of rope is preferred before hanging yourself from the gallows of self-implication.

Best not to hang yourself at all!


Madame Gesakaarin,

Thank you for your candid review and opinion on both the delegation's efforts and the potential response (or lack thereof) from CONCORD. I am certain you are not the only one with such a viewpoint and I will certainly not suggest it is not warranted.

However, I did wish to take a moment to clarify that the "CONCORD Assembly suggestion box" is only one of several intended destinations. As was stated when the conference first began, we have no delusions of grandeur, no presumptions of authority or vain hopes that our efforts will change the cluster over night. What we have is a collective desire to do more than simply throw our hands in the air and accept that we're powerless to affect change on any magnitude of scale; because we're not.

What the delegates have done is demonstrated the will to not only come together, setting aside bitter enmity, and pursue a resolution to ongoing conflict that is considerate of all sides but also the determination to see it through in spite of hardship, assassination, ridicule, doubt (others and no doubt their own as well) and frustration.

That demonstration may serve to influence others in years to come. Perhaps nothing done here will change anything, perhaps it will change everything. Regardless of the outcome, the demonstration itself is a necessary step along the path.

"Though the people may hate me, that does not relieve me of my charge."

Matar Ronin
#30 - 2015-06-29 16:42:54 UTC
iyammarrok wrote:
Do be silent Ronin,
Your republic's Delegates understood the simple premise that immediate abolition would cripple both Matar and Amarr, They took the better route.

something in your narrow view on the world you would have failed to even see.

If you must be so blind, do so elsewhere, this thread concerns peace, not your arrogant warmongering.
That old worn out lie does not fly. It would "bankrupt" the poor Minmatar Republic if slavery were abolished cry the idiots.

Did they not see the Rescue Fleet built in secret by these almost broke people that nearly toppled the most populous regime in New Eden?

Go ahead and keep believing that we are so broke we can not feed ourselves and then marvel as the next Rescue Fleet strikes against the demonic slavery cult to free more people.

Do you really think the slaves held in bondage are not an integral part of the economic system that supports the regime that holds them?

If anyone fears the financial repercussions of abolition it is the lazy slave holders who leech off the fruits of their labors.

Surely you took at least one class in economics during your education. Can it be their silver tongues have beguiled you to the point where you actually believe they hold people in generational slavery because they so care for their well being? Are you that gullible?

The man fighting against generational slavery is the one you call warmonger, and the gentleman slave holder with whom you have genteel conferences with to legalize slavery is the agent of peace? If you believe that you sir are no better then them.

No Abolition, No Peace!


‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#31 - 2015-06-29 17:27:21 UTC
Liam Antolliere wrote:

Madame Gesakaarin,

Thank you for your candid review and opinion on both the delegation's efforts and the potential response (or lack thereof) from CONCORD. I am certain you are not the only one with such a viewpoint and I will certainly not suggest it is not warranted.

However, I did wish to take a moment to clarify that the "CONCORD Assembly suggestion box" is only one of several intended destinations. As was stated when the conference first began, we have no delusions of grandeur, no presumptions of authority or vain hopes that our efforts will change the cluster over night. What we have is a collective desire to do more than simply throw our hands in the air and accept that we're powerless to affect change on any magnitude of scale; because we're not.

What the delegates have done is demonstrated the will to not only come together, setting aside bitter enmity, and pursue a resolution to ongoing conflict that is considerate of all sides but also the determination to see it through in spite of hardship, assassination, ridicule, doubt (others and no doubt their own as well) and frustration.

That demonstration may serve to influence others in years to come. Perhaps nothing done here will change anything, perhaps it will change everything. Regardless of the outcome, the demonstration itself is a necessary step along the path.


Whilst I am capable of intellectualizing your position, it remains just another abstraction to me. I have no particular personal disagreement with the efforts of you and yours -- if it is what you believe in, then it's what you believe in. I do however maintain personal reservations as regards some of the proposals. For example, the section on, "War Crimes," would require the creation of legal articles defining what actually constitutes such crimes and since such crimes as they apply to capsuleers can only be enforced by the DED then that would require agreement between CONCORD signatories. Would the Amarr Empire approve of slavery through military Reclaiming being defined as a, "War Crime," under binding interstellar legal treaty if it was proposed by the Minmatar Republic in the Assembly?

That's doubtful to me.

I hold similar doubts as to the actual implementation of many of the proposals made in the document in question. I do not think that denigrates the efforts made during your conference, rather I think it's just a difference of perspective as to the nature of political interests as regards war and peace in the cluster.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#32 - 2015-06-29 17:38:26 UTC
It seemed far less dangerous than attempting to define a 'war crime' - for that reason I made the decision to specify only those actions that have already or are, in the future, defined as such by the Empires in both law and custom.

For example, it is clear that the Amarrians would not define enslavement of POWs as a war crime. It is clear that all signatories of the Yulai convention have so defined the shooting of surrendered POWs out of hand.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Sammie MacWinters
Gradient
Electus Matari
#33 - 2015-06-29 17:55:26 UTC
Matar Ronin wrote:
iyammarrok wrote:
Do be silent Ronin,
Your republic's Delegates understood the simple premise that immediate abolition would cripple both Matar and Amarr, They took the better route.

something in your narrow view on the world you would have failed to even see.

If you must be so blind, do so elsewhere, this thread concerns peace, not your arrogant warmongering.
That old worn out lie does not fly. It would "bankrupt" the poor Minmatar Republic if slavery were abolished cry the idiots.

Did they not see the Rescue Fleet built in secret by these almost broke people that nearly toppled the most populous regime in New Eden?

Go ahead and keep believing that we are so broke we can not feed ourselves and then marvel as the next Rescue Fleet strikes against the demonic slavery cult to free more people.

Do you really think the slaves held in bondage are not an integral part of the economic system that supports the regime that holds them?

If anyone fears the financial repercussions of abolition it is the lazy slave holders who leech off the fruits of their labors.

Surely you took at least one class in economics during your education. Can it be their silver tongues have beguiled you to the point where you actually believe they hold people in generational slavery because they so care for their well being? Are you that gullible?

The man fighting against generational slavery is the one you call warmonger, and the gentleman slave holder with whom you have genteel conferences with to legalize slavery is the agent of peace? If you believe that you sir are no better then them.

No Abolition, No Peace!




Stop being an idiot. The collapse of the Amarr economy would affect more than just the holders. The large majority of the population has never owned a slave in their entire family line. Holders are rich. They can survive economic collapse. These others cannot. Children would starve to death.

Shut up and think.
The provisions for humane treatment are all that can be done. At least for now.
iyammarrok
Drunken Beaver Mining
Gnawthority
#34 - 2015-06-29 18:12:19 UTC  |  Edited by: iyammarrok
The republic and the elders are not one and the same Matar, YOU should know this, The elders lead the Matari, all of them.
The republic is but a part of the greater whole.

If you cannot grasp even that basic a fact, you should perhaps consider a new occupation.

Oh, and don't claim you know what occurred at the conference you failed to attend, or the character of those you refuse to interact with.

Abolition cannot, and will not, come either immediately, or at the threat of further attack.
Antagonising your opponent, then asking for a boon is never a viable plan.

Will the conflict continue? Almost certainly.
However, in all diplomatic matters, it is the calmer mind that prevails.
Your final line on the subject proves, without any doubt, that you choose war over diplomacy, conflict over peace.

I would bet that you are also of the mind that those who are currently enslaved would be better off dead than remaining in servitude.

You give the Matari people a bad reputation. It is those like you, who refuse to compromise even in the short term, who risk the possible future release of your kin for a dream of immediate emancipation that will not happen.
One day your people may be free, but your way is not the way that will bring this about.

your path leads only to ruin, for your own people, and others.
Walk softly, lest the beasts and traps along your chosen path find easy prey in one so blinded by rage.

Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated.

Goldfinch
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2015-06-29 19:40:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Goldfinch
Matar Ronin wrote:
You've done so much patting yourself on the back you must be double jointed. You bunch of heroes sat down and talked. Hardly the most courageous thing a person can do.

You tried to put on a good showing, I can see that, but you were unable to make the hard choice for the Matari people. Sure tell the Gallente to get off Caldari Prime but let's not upset the slavery cult empire because we like their faux faith and slick sounding titles. But worse than simply failing, you world class failed by proclaiming "slavery" legal in New Eden, a huge step against the Matari people.

You address war crimes because it effects all the rest of you, but you condone and make legal crimes against humanity, so long as that humanity is Matari, you are a disgrace.

You tried for fame and success in the pursuit of peace, you failed on both counts, your fifteen minutes are up.

Mr. Ronin,

You may know that abolitionists do exist amongst Amarr, though we ourself are not among them (we are a staunch supporter of slavery). As a solicitor and not a theologist, it is my limited understanding that it is possible to be a deeply religious Amarr and support abolition, in a manner that is not heretical or provocatively left-wing. Similarly, you may find there may be Caldari who oppose slavery on ethical or labor efficiency grounds. We need not draw special attention to the radical abolitionist tenor in Gallente popular culture.

These are sociopolitical vehicles one could use to drive change. The Amarr Empire is massive, its myriad billions settled into most of the northern constellations in the core. The Reclaiming is not the sole reason for the existence of slavery.. there are historical, economic, cultural, and political reasons. If the largest standing capsuleer navy from Sovereignty space, under the auspices of the heretical Max Singularity VI, are inadequate for clearing out the entire Amarr orthodox populace, we think it is safe to say that Matar Ronin will be equally as unsuccessful.

Guns are not the instrument of lasting change. One must seed a political movement, a social movement.. through literature and protests and civil disobedience, using all the ways and means that addresses the culture. You will not change anyone's mind by insulting their religion. You certainly won't have a captive audience if all you do is shoot at people. The only way for change is to convince people that change is truly needed.

Before you can do that, we believe you should educate yourself. Have you ever considered to ask the reasons why slavery exists? Have you tried to understand the deep religious implications? Be careful as you ponder these questions. It would be easier for you to throw a tantrum in your exasperation, and more difficult to present a measured, compelling response.

\J/

veiled and bound

my origin story (on eve-backstage)

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#36 - 2015-06-30 03:12:01 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
. It is clear that all signatories of the Yulai convention have so defined the shooting of surrendered POWs out of hand.


When I consider the accusations that surrounded the CPD and now surround the SDII, I would say there is a difference between actions that are considered reprehensible and actions that would make one legally culpable to an independent authority. The shooting of surrendered Prisoners of War might be considered reprehensible, but until it is defined as such under articles of binding legal convention then such an action cannot be considered a breach or a crime by a CONCORD signatory -- irrespective if it might be a crime as outlined in a signatory nation's code of military conduct or similar document. The prosecution of the latter means the crime is prosecuted within the boundaries of the political sovereignty of a signatory, the former means prosecution of the crime outside the boundaries of the political sovereignty of a signatory.

To me, the proposals of the Pakhshi Peace Conference might be considered a success of independent political activism conducted by individuals but when such proposals require significant ceding of the political sovereignty and national interests of the belligerents involved in the name of compromise then they become nothing more than peaceful platitudes. The coming together of individuals with, "Bitter enmity," is suitable as a symbolic gesture but if the only conclusions drawn are hows and not whys then all that remains are empty gesturing and the aphorisms of wishful thinking.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Goldfinch
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2015-06-30 04:46:38 UTC

Mr. Ouilliam Antolliere,

We have gone ahead and provided our legal advice as comments in your document, under our initials JR. We have done so for COM1, 2, and 3 only. We expect you will let us know if our commentary is excessive or burdensome before we continued to review the rest of the document. We also felt that a "Key Takeaways" section near the head of the document would make it convenient to skim the major talking points of each proposal.

We hope you understand there is no requirement for you to respond to each item.. instead we expect you would simply resolve or reject the comments silently as the document's author.

\J/

veiled and bound

my origin story (on eve-backstage)

Vikarion
Doomheim
#38 - 2015-06-30 05:25:57 UTC
In regards to the Caldari attitude towards slavery, it should be noted that slavery is illegal in the State, and has always been illegal in the State. Transporting slaves through the State is also illegal.

However, it is also the policy of the State that it is not the place of the Caldari State to dictate the internal cultural beliefs or internal political choices of foreign nations.


As for the Minmatar Republic being able to support their own population again in numbers, because they could afford to construct the Elder's fleets, I will simply point out that the funds to construct those fleets were, interestingly enough, probably appropriated aid payments from the Federation. As those payments were intended to build up infrastructure in the Republic so that it could stand on its own as a functioning nation, I suspect that the Federation will be reluctant to repeat them.

I also would point out that the Republic also managed to completely lose as much or more than one-third of the Elder Fleet. This seems an even more unwise investment, in retrospect, as the Elder's invasion was thus cut short, and largely a failure, not to mention the loss of life incurred - thanks to the superweapon, mostly on the Minmatar side.

Lastly, given the Abel Jarek affair, I suspect that many Minmatar will never desire peace with the Empire. There are, roughly, more Minmatar in the Empire than in the Republic to begin with. Even if abolition were enacted, no one has yet demonstrated how a nation might assimilate a larger population than its own. I suspect the next demand might be for Imperial planets and systems, to accommodate the population.

And that is assuming that they desire to go. It is more probable that the greater portion of the Minmatar in Imperial space would desire to stay. In which case, the demand would be to turn them over. And if they were turned over, well, so many, like Abel Jarek, believe in the Amarrian faith that then the reason for war would probably boil down to vengeance on the part of the Minmatar for the displacement of their own culture in the minds of their own people (while conducting pogroms against those same people) and the Empire would be likely to look on Minmatar mistreatment of those faithful to the Amarrian doctrine as reason for war as well.

Such are the difficulties of attempting to reclaim an entire population, either in the Amarrian sense, or the Minmatar desire to liberate their fellow Minmatar - whether those Minmatar wish to be liberated or not.

Of course, the Amarr made this bed, and I'm not sorry, as a Caldari, to see them so uncomfortable in it. Then again, there are quite a few Minmatar who, I think, prefer violence to reason even if reason is likely to give them a solution and violence isn't. The Amarr aren't the only problem with the Republic, not even the biggest one, in fact. But they're a convenient reason not to fix the problems that the Minmatar would have anyway.
Liam Antolliere
Doomheim
#39 - 2015-06-30 11:39:52 UTC
Goldfinch wrote:

Mr. Ouilliam Antolliere,

We have gone ahead and provided our legal advice as comments in your document, under our initials JR. We have done so for COM1, 2, and 3 only. We expect you will let us know if our commentary is excessive or burdensome before we continued to review the rest of the document. We also felt that a "Key Takeaways" section near the head of the document would make it convenient to skim the major talking points of each proposal.

We hope you understand there is no requirement for you to respond to each item.. instead we expect you would simply resolve or reject the comments silently as the document's author.




Ah, your input is appreciated though I am not at liberty to make any changes to the document. I am not its author, the authors are the delegates who deliberated over the topics for several weeks and put together each section of the document.

I will file away your suggestions for revision consideration, but that will have to be passed before the delegates if they wish to make any final changes before the document is submitted.

Again, I appreciate your assistance and input.

"Though the people may hate me, that does not relieve me of my charge."

Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#40 - 2015-07-01 04:54:12 UTC
Some parts leave a bitter taste, but most medicine dose. Ronin, this is a starting point, and will lead to the freedom of our people faster then ordinance ever would, so swallow your pride a bit and try to build off of what was offered.

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.

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