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Tengu Fit for Standard and Superior Cache?
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Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#1 - 2015-06-27 03:49:59 UTC
I've been running these in a 1600 plated Stratios but does anyone have a good tengu fit?
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#2 - 2015-06-27 15:58:28 UTC
Bump for the thread. I'm interested about those sites too. What I had read made me nervous to jump in there with a Tengu, when I'm usually 30 to 50 jumps from home.
Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
#3 - 2015-06-29 06:58:50 UTC
Shiloh Templeton wrote:
I've been running these in a 1600 plated Stratios but does anyone have a good tengu fit?

Depends how you gonna do them.
I baked something like that:

[Tengu, Tengu explo null]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Inertial Stabilizers II / warp speed/DCII/cargo expander II

Cargo Scanner II
Relic Analyzer II
Data Analyzer II
50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe

Medium Low Friction Nozzle Joints II
Medium Low Friction Nozzle Joints II
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II

Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Tengu Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier
Tengu Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening

Agility is the key: 3,3 sec to warp. 3,8 AU in nullifed sub, 6,1 AU in gravi. I'm switching microwarpdrive with 100MN afterburner when expecting gatecamp, and prop sub lowsec/nullsec. Launchers are for decoration.

I never did mine room in superior one so I have no idea how much damage we'll have to mitigate. Last nerf lowered shield from 12k to 10k. For mine room I would switch prop mode and cargo scanner for another hardner and LSII. Archive room is out of range solo in cruiser I think.

"I am tormented with an everlasting itch for things remote. I love to sail forbidden seas..." - Herman Melville
Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#4 - 2015-06-29 12:58:20 UTC
Jeremiah Saken wrote:
Shiloh Templeton wrote:
I've been running these in a 1600 plated Stratios but does anyone have a good tengu fit?

Depends how you gonna do them.
I baked something like that:

That looks like a good general exploration fit, but I'm looking for a very strong tank fit that I can swap into that could handle the Superior mine room and archive initial waves and the Standard Cache tractor area, as well as running ghost sites. Someone posted that the mine room needs 60K buffer tank to survive a failed hack.

Ideally the fit would keep the covert reconfiguration subsystem, but could swap out the others. Cargo scanner + data and relic analyzers & prop would be required using a lot of the mid slots, so it might need a combination of shield and armor tank to pull it off.


Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
#5 - 2015-06-29 17:38:00 UTC
Shiloh Templeton wrote:
Jeremiah Saken wrote:
Shiloh Templeton wrote:
I've been running these in a 1600 plated Stratios but does anyone have a good tengu fit?

Depends how you gonna do them.
I baked something like that:

That looks like a good general exploration fit, but I'm looking for a very strong tank fit that I can swap into that could handle the Superior mine room and archive initial waves and the Standard Cache tractor area, as well as running ghost sites. Someone posted that the mine room needs 60K buffer tank to survive a failed hack.

Ideally the fit would keep the covert reconfiguration subsystem, but could swap out the others. Cargo scanner + data and relic analyzers & prop would be required using a lot of the mid slots, so it might need a combination of shield and armor tank to pull it off.

Standard tractor area only viable with warp out tactics. No point of switching modules for tractor only. First switch one sentry at enclave then active low rift, jump and hack sentry on tractor area - warp out. Tengu has little to none dps in that fit, no point of fighting with sentry close to tractor.

For mine room I would use this (above fit low and mids changed):
[Tengu, Mine room]
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Damage Control II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Explosive Deflection Field II
Explosive Deflection Field II
Data Analyzer II

80k EHP, 89% explo resist (I assume mine room will do explo damage)

Archive room is story for another time. I don't think it need crude "moar tank bring!" tactics.




"I am tormented with an everlasting itch for things remote. I love to sail forbidden seas..." - Herman Melville
Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#6 - 2015-06-29 21:27:57 UTC
Jeremiah Saken wrote:
Standard tractor area only viable with warp out tactics. No point of switching modules for tractor only. First switch one sentry at enclave then active low rift, jump and hack sentry on tractor area - warp out. Tengu has little to none dps in that fit, no point of fighting with sentry close to tractor.
I avoid warping out of the Cache when possible because sometimes the site is gone when I do.

In the tractor area, I turn on the Stratios armor rep and prop mod to 50km to get the far sentries to stop shooting.
Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
#7 - 2015-06-30 06:09:04 UTC
Shiloh Templeton wrote:
In the tractor area, I turn on the Stratios armor rep and prop mod to 50km to get the far sentries to stop shooting.

So you hack defense grid unit and prop out of tractor area? I'm doing standard without warping in Astero but I'm going for enclave first.

I think armor T3s would be better for archive room. Analyzers and cargo scanner are taking med slots shared with shield modules for tank.

"I am tormented with an everlasting itch for things remote. I love to sail forbidden seas..." - Herman Melville
Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#8 - 2015-07-03 14:27:12 UTC
I got around to playing in EFT for a fit. This uses a combination of T2 omni shield and armor tank to maximize use of slots while fitting the necessary scanning modules. Warp out time is 4 sec. 80K EHP, cap stable with prop on. Rigs could be changed for more tank. Should be able to tank ghost sites without warping.

Improvements are welcomed.

[Tengu, Cache Tank]
Damage Control II
Medium Armor Repairer II
1600mm Steel Plates II
Armor Explosive Hardener II

50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Data Analyzer II
Relic Analyzer II
Cargo Scanner II

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Core Scanner Probe I
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Low Friction Nozzle Joints II
Medium Low Friction Nozzle Joints II

Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening
Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers
Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#9 - 2015-07-05 04:37:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Shiloh Templeton
Tried the new fit and really hate failing the data hacks so I changed the rigs to:

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Memory Bank II


I also carry a shield booster in case I want to repair shield damage with a mobile depot.
Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
#10 - 2015-07-05 10:17:44 UTC
If you want to do only ghost sites with above fit switch one analyzer for another hardener (explo would be good). I don't think you need so much tank for null ghost sites. If rats come just overheat hardeners. I think they catch me once and I manage to survive with 1/3 shield left (but it was before subsytem nerf).

"I am tormented with an everlasting itch for things remote. I love to sail forbidden seas..." - Herman Melville