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[PRESS] Odo Korachi issues demands; IKAME petitions for assistance
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Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#101 - 2015-06-27 01:02:43 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Hello, lovelies!

As of 22:54 CONCORD time, pilot Scherezad has been placed under corporate arrest and administrative leave by authority of the Ishukone-Raata Internal Watch. She is now in my custody.

Until this situation is resolved we will ensure that she continues to be fully cooperative with the authorities involved, without severing her employment contract and benefits package. Due to her exemplary service to the State and Ishukone, we feel this is the most gentle option we have available. Visitation by friends and family will of course be allowed, and she will remain free to resign her employment status at any time.

To our understanding, pilot Scherezad has already cooperated and submitted to the demands of the DED by contracting over all materials and information she has access to. Until further demands are made, there is little more she or Ishukone-Raata can do to address the situation.

Due to her noted efforts to comply, we currently have no plans to terminate Scherezad's employment contract, and advise strongly against any hasty diplomatic changes.

I am glad you are at least being level headed. The other posts from I-RED leadership along with those if PIE indicate a desire to burn bridges rather than properly handle this absurd situation.

I still must protest actions taken against persons who have no control over the situation, however.

Again, while I am against how severe the punishments leveled against Raholan, I can at least concede defiance of the DED is at least a concise choice on his part. The rest, however have been wrongfully implicated, and are being held hostage, and it is unfortunate to see Corporations and alliances following CONCORD 's example in this matter, by attempting to diminish the corporations and individuals involved.
Mark726
Project Compass Holdings
#102 - 2015-06-27 01:14:50 UTC
I am disappointed that CONCORD has only escalated an already delicate situation with unreasonable demands unbecoming of a supposedly civilized institution. I once had respect for the institution, but I fear it waning every day while it seeks only to amass power without regard to any checks or balances.

I once again offer Project Compass Holdings' full support, both materiel and moral, to any of the afflicted pilots.

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Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#103 - 2015-06-27 01:20:07 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
From what you're saying, surely Ms. Scherezad can't be considered to have acted improperly? So, respectfully, why detain her?

There is the matter of the giant bounty on her head.

Though we all know what an ethical and gentle people capsuleers are, 25 PLEX might motivate others to seek her out and do her harm.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#104 - 2015-06-27 02:07:57 UTC
We are not always criminals because we like to create mayhem, sell slaves, take advantage of the inherently stupid and commit general acts of debauchery.

Not always.

Sometimes, when you exist outside the law, you see the law-makers as being more corrupt and dishonest then any den of thieves.

In other words, "I told you so."

Miss Priano and company, I understand your reasons for not wanting to "flee into darkness." Might I suggest you advance towards the light.

Utopia is a haven for many who CONCORD have branded "Outlaw." And Angels are never far.

Should you wish to stay in CONCORD space and need a legal team, please contact me privately.

"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."
Liam Antolliere
Doomheim
#105 - 2015-06-27 02:13:10 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
From what you're saying, surely Ms. Scherezad can't be considered to have acted improperly? So, respectfully, why detain her?


I would suggest it's more a state of "protective custody" than detainment.

From an outside observation, at least.

"Though the people may hate me, that does not relieve me of my charge."
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#106 - 2015-06-27 02:21:55 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
As of 22:54 CONCORD time, pilot Scherezad has been placed under corporate arrest and administrative leave by authority of the Ishukone-Raata Internal Watch. She is now in my custody.

Um ... respectfully, is there no alternative to this, Ms. Oniseki?

Or is this, maybe, something a little different than it sounds?

I've been confined to quarters before. It was a horrible experience. Admittedly there were circumstances that made it ... worse, but ...

From what you're saying, surely Ms. Scherezad can't be considered to have acted improperly? So, respectfully, why detain her?



I'd rather not discuss more details in public out of respect for her.

I will reiterate that visitation is perfectly allowed for anybody concerned for her well being.


Can I bring her a cake?

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#107 - 2015-06-27 02:54:29 UTC
Concord's command must be hitting the boosters pretty hard these days.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#108 - 2015-06-27 03:15:17 UTC
Lemon spicecake please, Pieter. The sort with the gingery taste and the raisins and the lemon glaze.

I should probably eat something.
Luis Norelius
Doomheim
#109 - 2015-06-27 03:21:27 UTC
DED's reaction in the Hilen biomass case is making me rethink my career path. Up until now I've been a peaceful explorer pursuing new discoveries and expanding our knowledge of our past and future. If threat's against IKAME realise, I'll retreat into space where DED's heavy hands won't reach.
Just for the record, I am 100% behind our CEO, Makoto Priano.
I acknowledge and am grateful for the support of other capsuleers in this case.

Audacter ad explorare ubi nemo scit ubi - Luis Norelius Esq.

To boldly explore where no one knows where
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#110 - 2015-06-27 09:32:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyn Farel
Samira Kernher wrote:
Nicoletta Mithra wrote:
Also, whether we will have to remove pilot Raholan or if we will be able to convince him to do the right thing is yet open: There is no need for you to speculate on this. Much less do you need to speculate on what actions SFRIM will take if this situation will find no reasonable solution: You can rest assured that SFRIM will do the right thing.


I have speculated on nothing. I have only said that if SFRIM does not convince him to hand over the biomass, or remove him, then there will be issues for the corporation. If SFRIM does convince him, or alternatively removes him, then there won't be issues.

I apologize if the 'if-then' statement in my posts was unclear.


You have already explained your stance perfectly in the first of your statements, no need to go on over and over...

Why bringing this in public in the first place ?
terzslave
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#111 - 2015-06-27 10:37:28 UTC
An attack on IKAME is an attack on the State itself. I call for the CEP to take a stance against CONCORD and their DED cronies!
Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#112 - 2015-06-27 11:57:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Utari Onzo
terzslave wrote:
An attack on IKAME is an attack on the State itself. I call for the CEP to take a stance against CONCORD and their DED cronies!


A heavy handed, but perfectly legal action against a group of Capsuleers is somehow an attack on the State itself? Hardly.

In the case of CONCORD's actions, they have been trying to break open a nut with a sledgehammer, but ultimately they are following procedure. They do, infact, have the legal authority to conduct themselves in this manner. The Court Chamberlain has already deplored such heavy handed actions, but has threatened punitive measures against Imperial citizens involved in not handing over the remains, in this case we assume His Lordship Raholan. I fail to see how the State is going to put its own neck out for one small group of Capsuleers.

I, for one, am very sorry that the others involved are being threatened with sanctions because of the words and deeds of one errant Lord. My Lord Raholan, I urge you to reconsider your actions, and hand over the remains. Don't let your friends, and worst of all your very House, suffer for your pride.

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"
Anslo
Scope Works
#113 - 2015-06-27 12:20:32 UTC
He doesn't care who suffers. He hides behind the weak reasoning that his actions "stick it to the man" for the inaction of CONCORD against the Minmatar for the Elder fleets attack. Meanwhile, officials of the very home he wishes justice for is telling the idiot to turn it over. Honestly I don't think he cares for anything except the attention and the feeling of being a "rebel." Do yourself a favor Raholan, leave legally dubious actions to those of us who know what were doing, you playing bad boy is hurting people who have no right to be hurt, and who were given no choice in their fate.

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Constance Bonacieux
Tomorrow Is Another Day
#114 - 2015-06-27 12:30:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Constance Bonacieux
Why not simply hand umm 'the remains' over to the Kingdom or Imperial Governments? They can then negotiate with Concord. Problem solved!
Lord Kailethre
Tengoo Uninstallation Service
#115 - 2015-06-27 12:54:45 UTC
Scherezad wrote:
Lemon spicecake please, Pieter. The sort with the gingery taste and the raisins and the lemon glaze.

I should probably eat something.


Oooooh, can I get some of those, please?
I'll trade you some uhmmm... *rummages lunchbox* ...some fruit?
Frenjo Borkstar
Doomheim
#116 - 2015-06-27 14:25:51 UTC
Arek'Jaalan and Borkstar Laboratories firmly stand by Makoto Priano and Lucas Raholan.
CONCORD have really pushed us all over the edge this time, and we cannot condone such actions.

If CONCORD try to take any remains or any equipment, it should be destroyed - I know mine will be.

Makoto, Lucas, if you need supplies or anything, contact me and I'll deliver them personally.

Viriel,

Borkstar Laboratories,

The Borkstar Initiative.
Tarek Raimo
Eleutherian Guard
#117 - 2015-06-27 14:26:16 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
Pilots;


I can only assume that Korachi’s insistence that we only communicate with him is in part because he is overstepping his mandate; I can only assume that other commanders within CONCORD are more diplomatic, are better able to interface with the independent Capsuleers that form this cluster’s best defense against the Nation and other threats, are more understanding of the free-spiritedness and pride of many of the most powerful individuals in existence.

[...]

It remains my hope that Korachi has overstepped his bounds, and that by shining a light on his intransigence those within CONCORD who are better able to serve the needs of CONCORD and the cluster may rise to serve in his stead.


Considering that DED director Arve Vesren herself has issued a decree supporting the statements of Odo Korachi it seems like your hopes are in vain.

I begin to get the impression that the DED are developing ever further into an out-of-control goonsquad. Let us not forget that it was only recently that they detained journalists without charge or due process for the simple act of publishing the material of a whistleblower.

CONCORD was founded to a large extent on the efforts of the great Gallente president and advocate for peace Aidonis Elabon. The DED of today are trampling on the very ideals that their organisation were once built upon.
Tarek Raimo
Eleutherian Guard
#118 - 2015-06-27 14:51:26 UTC
I have written a petition to my representatives Admiral Auvier Bauvon and General Allisa Audere. I hope it makes a difference. Here is what I wrote:

Quote:


Admiral Bauvon, General Audere

As a Federation citizen and member of the Gallente Militia I am deeply concerned about the course the DED has taken in their latest persecution of capsuleers who have done nothing wrong except disputing their right to determine the fate of the remains of an esteemed colleague and scientist, Hilen Tukoss.

While the DED might have a mandate to establish the identity of the deceased beyond a doubt, the decrees by Brigardier Odo Korachi and Madame Arve Vesren go way beyond what can be called due process and even common sense. Putting bounties on the heads of capsuleer scientists because of a simple dispute about potential evidence is unprecedented. The bounty itself even exceeds what was offered for the destruction of Provist insurrectionalists who were proven criminals and terrorists!

Considering that the very existence of CONCORD and therefore the DED can be traced back to the efforts of our own great president Aidonis Elabon, I strongly feel that the Gallente Federation should respond to this latest excessive overstepping of boundaries by leading DED personnel, particularly as it follows on the heels of the unlawful detention of two innocent Gallente journalists in the connection with Eifyr&Co. whistleblower case.

I trust that you will use your authority as leading Gallente commanders in an effort to rein in the DED and make it serve justice and peace rather than abusing their power to persecute innocents, something we are unfortunately all too familiar with from our own history.

Sincerely
Commander Tarek Raimo of the Eleutherian Guard
Samantha Calderon
Heavenly Forge
#119 - 2015-06-27 15:57:32 UTC
It is remarcable to see the first sprouts of capsuller class-consciousness here.

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Dradis Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#120 - 2015-06-27 16:25:23 UTC
Have you been afforded Counsle? While any cooperation may set standings as they see fit, the seizing of assets can only be done through a Court of law in each of the recognized empires and Concord tribunal. At each of these you are afforded the right to an attorney of your choosing and cost or a Defender of Law for free. DED has no right to size your assets without due process. DED does not have the authority to seize your assets outside of Concord/DED facilities with out such due process.

Maybe the good DED must reread the condord charter.

Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896

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