Ships & Modules

So the ore capacity isn't that much difference for such an investment. My retriever has an ore hold of 27,500 at the moment, and according to the attributes of the info page of the mackinaw, it has 28,000. I'm sure I can boost it up a bit, but what is so good about the Mackinaw? I would love the Hulk, but I don't have a barge to haul all the jettisoned materials back home. Unless I'm missing something, could someone let me know if it is technically worth it to upgrade, or just save up in the Retriever and buy another pvp type ship.

P.S. I just recently returned after a year or so break and am a little rusty on the changes/attributes of the ships. Thank you, and sorry if this is a noob question.

Edit: I want to work my way up to an Orca or Charon, so would I acquire the currency faster with saving what I have and continue with a Retriever or spend 200 mil to get a Mackinaw. How big is the yield difference?

Go for the Mackinaw. Anything that costs 160mil more is always better. For me, for you, for the guy who sells it to you, everyone wins!

The retriever is much more likely to be a gank magnet since you really have to pretty much give up its mining capabilities to make it even sorta gank resistant.

And you'll find you love the better fitting capability of the Mackinaw, the retriever has for a long time needed a bit more lenience in its fitting profile.

Also, unless you are going to be a perfect ORCA pilot and boost a regularly organized mining fleet the CHARON is a far superior option to the ORCA (ive used both and the orca seems cool till you start flying it realize that it really only shines as a fleet assistance ship).

I had an orca for a couple months before i sold it, ive had my Charon for about 2 years and use it almost every single day.

What they are trying to tell you, in trollspeak, is to buy the most cost efficient tanky ship. Even if it means losing a small amount of cargo, a well tanked t1 ship makes you less of a target for gankers and if it dies it's not excruciating to replace.

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Welcome back btw

Yeah that was my first though too.

A retriever can be tanked to survive against one catalyst in .5 space with merely an adaptive mid, cheap t1 tank rigs, and a DCU in the low leaving 2 spots for mining laser upgrades.

No problem. Make sure you pick up a mining permit from an authorized New Order agent. For only 10 million isk, you will be granted the dispensation to mine in highsec for an entire calendar year. That's a bargain, if you ask me.

That's the best part about permits, actually. While ostensibly just for miners, they have a myriad of applications in both the hauling and mission running fields. It's the gift that keeps on giving.

If you can fly an Exhumer, then you should always pick the superior choice!

Which is the Skiff! Ore hold and yield are overrated anyways.

Are you planning on playing afk? If not send me mail. No need wasting time with mack.

Where the skiff shines is the fact it's annoyingly difficult to suicide gank. A tanked skiff will usually be ignored in preference of an easier target. If you're always at the keyboard and taking necessary steps to avoid getting popped, the mack is a better choice. The question is; are you prepared to bet 200 mil that you will be able to outplay a suicide gank squad when the time comes?