EVE General Discussion

Totally did not read through all those tears. I saw, "I am quitting EVE" and all I though about while struggling to read the rest was can i have your stuff (because this is all I was thinking about at this stage).

Guy throw his hands already up at page 2, give him some break already....

DMC, the OP doesn't even agree with his initial post anymore. He already acknowledged that it was made while he was still emotional following the gank.

He's kind of totally turned around and sees the positive aspect of learning from this now. His attitude is great and if we all had his attitude, the relevance of CODE and other ganking groups would be significantly less than it is. They don't have power in this game because they take it. They have it because lots of people give it to them.

Yeah about the OP, it's simply amazing to see a majority of people all gang up and sway the viewpoint of a single person.

As for the relevance of CODE and other ganking groups, I still stand by my original statement in my previous reply.



DMC

*grabs some popcorn and prepares to be amused*

If ganking currently requires no brain, what does that say for the people that get ganked?

Surely an activity so simple as to be for people who've failed everything else, should be trivially easy to avoid. Why are there so many successful ganks?

AFK I can understand. There's clearly not a brain even present at all. Maybe that would help. If people engaged their brain or even just had it at the computer, there would be fewer successful ganks.

Jump Freighter. Works perfectly everytime.

Aside from that, there is a tonne of information out there on how to minimise the risk of bumping - scouting ahead, not freighting when machs are on your intended route, webbing alts and minimising cargo all work.

Ganks are only unavoidable for the people who don't engage their brain. So dumbface doesn't matter in the slightest. It's the matter behind it that counts.

If anything, highsec pvp could do with some buffs to favour all groups, not more nerfs just because we don't agree with someone else's playstyle.

Jump Freighter takes years to train into, and doesn't make ganks impossible, just harder. 32 catalysts would still easily overpower it, and chain tackle would work too.

But ok, let's say it "counters" dumb bumping (at insane cost of jump freighter and year of training), despite not actually countering anything because you have to jump out and not haul, what can people without JF do?
Scouting ahead does next to nothing, all you're going to see is neutral alts, even imbeciles would keep their mach and gank alts logged off.
Webbing does nothing except adding a loss of webber to loss of freighter.
Minimising cargo never worked, even empty freighters are ganked, since ganking in catalysts is free, nobody is bothered about the cost.

The only counter to gank is "not freighting" aka "not playing eve". Great counter!

There are ways to do it without affecting PvP. Just make CONCORD react faster when there's 10 criminal acts on the same grid, viola, stacking catalysts en masse doesn't work anymore, PvP not affected.

Sigh.

This is what happens when you have a "professional victim" playing a video game. They spend soooo much time being a victim (and then bypassing common sense and individual responsibility in favor or running straight to the highest available authority crying for "fixes") that very simple and OBVIOUS solutions...

... Like using a Jump Freighter in LOW SEC to Jump AROUND high sec thus preventing gank squads from even getting on to the same grid with you.

That's the problem with high sec, it doesn't foster the kind of creative sense the other 87% of EVE (that isn't high sec) does, it's safety creates helpless victims.