EVE General Discussion

Dear CCP,

After over 2 years of play, I will be cancelling my EVE sub at the end of July.

Today, I was ganked in high sec in a freighter - the freighter some people bought a PLEX for and donated that ISK to the corp so we could buy it.



It started when roughly 3 ships started to intercept me at a gate which kept knocking me of course and in turn prevented me from warping.
I was then asked for 300 mil in ISK for a “pass” which I refused and to be frank I would actually call that a ransom.
After that someone else tried to contact me but I refused their chat invite and then 19 ships decided to take out me out.
The freighter was lost and so was our Orca which again was bought for by player donations. Over 2 billion in losses which our corp simply can’t afford to replace.

If that grief wasn’t enough one of the gankers then decided to join our open recruitment channel to then inform us (if we didn’t already know by this point) we had been ganked and then posted our kill reports to us. We were then informed that I should have indeed bought a “pass”. All this was in high sec on my way to Jita and to quite frank a little creepy.

EVE is demanding, and at times punishing, it’s part of the game but it is also very rewarding. We were hoping to set up POS’s to start moon mining and ice mining - something we’d been looking forward to for some time and building up towards it but with the loss of our only freighter and Orca it now means that our plan is on indefinite hiatus.
Just as we had started to get somewhere we’re pushed to the ground and now we just don’t feel like getting up again.

Concord just isn’t enough and did absolutely nothing. It doesn’t protect you against extortion so where were / are the in game mods? Or better yet why not have Honorary Concord Members who are players protecting players against attacks like this?

People will claim it’s part of “freedom” within the game but where’s my freedom to be able to move from one high sec system to another and not being extorted for ISK?

I enjoy EVE, I bought the Second Decade set, the LE Source book and the LE Art of New Eden books so it’s like having to leave a club you enjoy going to because there is a large group making your time there unpleasant for you so to be honest it’s sad to go but unless we start again from the start, we have no way of moving forward.

Sorry for the moan but really, extorting ISK out of players is really a step too far.

Kind regards
Finn McCoul

Thank you guys for some of your words of encouragement, yes I know not to fly what I can't afford to replace and all that stuff and "rage quitting" probably isn't the best way to go about it, nor was ranting over on the forums however I hope you can understand the feelings at the time.

Besides, I never expected kind comments in return and such but Carrie-Anne Moss took it to a whole other level. Thank you for all those words of advice Carrie.

I know I mentioned this in my last post but seriously thank you some of you for your harsh, unkind but mostly valid points regarding what had happened this morning.

I enjoy the challenges EVE gives, that's why I started to l play it in the first place, this morning however felt unfair hence the outburst and perhaps I had become a bit too complacent.

I've decided to keep my sub going and try again, learn from the mistakes and see where that leads us.

Also, thanks for the heads up about Carrie, her posts are now hidden!

Well, the biggest thing I've learnt today above all else is not to cry on the forums. Hell, I won't be doing that again!

@ Ralph King-Griffin
Thank you for the link, favorited and will be reading tonight!

@ Zimmy Zeta
Sorry, I'm not giving anything away just yet. I'll keep you in mind though if / when that time comes :p

I started playing with work colleagues, we mostly ran Level 4 PvE missions to farm LP for the SoE ships. Originally I was flying a Raven but once the Gila redesign came out you could pretty much go AFK and let that ship do all the work for you.
Farming LP lead us to make roughly 70-90 mil per ship for a few hours worth of "work" but we were pulled into a corp and found the ISK we were making was peanuts.

So as for the PvP / political aspect of the game (corps and alliances) I agree I have lead a somewhat sheltered life.

ISK wise I have roughly 5 bil and then maybe twice that in assets, most was made making the SoE ships and running DED sites in wormholes.

The POS's are already set up and have been for days. I was on my way to Jita to pick up another Silo. Even after two years this is my first real time going into nul sec.
This created a new challenge because we were being caught at gates so we found a site which tells you how many kills has been in a particular system so we were using that to plot our route.

We also fitted a few ships so interwarp was possible. We went from a huge number of loses to nothing pretty much overnight.
We also found out you're more likely to get caught in a web bubble if you're moving from gate to gate or station to gate so once entering a system we'd warp to a planet or moon and then onto the Stargate, this help us a number of times getting to the next system as we missed the web bubble(s) completely unless the bubble was placed right on top of the Stargate.

The insurance payout for the freighter was 500 mil so I was going to put the extra 700 mil in there myself and get a new one. The Orca I was going to leave and see if anyone missed it first.

Dear CCP,

After over 2 years of play, I will be cancelling my EVE sub at the end of July.

Today, I was ganked in high sec in a freighter - the freighter some people bought a PLEX for and donated that ISK to the corp so we could buy it.

It started when roughly 3 ships started to intercept me at a gate which kept knocking me of course and in turn prevented me from warping.
I was then asked for 300 mil in ISK for a “pass” which I refused and to be frank I would actually call that a ransom.
After that someone else tried to contact me but I refused their chat invite and then 19 ships decided to take out me out.
The freighter was lost and so was our Orca which again was bought for by player donations. Over 2 billion in losses which our corp simply can’t afford to replace.

If that grief wasn’t enough one of the gankers then decided to join our open recruitment channel to then inform us (if we didn’t already know by this point) we had been ganked and then posted our kill reports to us. We were then informed that I should have indeed bought a “pass”. All this was in high sec on my way to Jita and to quite frank a little creepy.

EVE is demanding, and at times punishing, it’s part of the game but it is also very rewarding. We were hoping to set up POS’s to start moon mining and ice mining - something we’d been looking forward to for some time and building up towards it but with the loss of our only freighter and Orca it now means that our plan is on indefinite hiatus.
Just as we had started to get somewhere we’re pushed to the ground and now we just don’t feel like getting up again.

Concord just isn’t enough and did absolutely nothing. It doesn’t protect you against extortion so where were / are the in game mods? Or better yet why not have Honorary Concord Members who are players protecting players against attacks like this?

People will claim it’s part of “freedom” within the game but where’s my freedom to be able to move from one high sec system to another and not being extorted for ISK?

I enjoy EVE, I bought the Second Decade set, the LE Source book and the LE Art of New Eden books so it’s like having to leave a club you enjoy going to because there is a large group making your time there unpleasant for you so to be honest it’s sad to go but unless we start again from the start, we have no way of moving forward.

Sorry for the moan but really, extorting ISK out of players is really a step too far.

Kind regards
Finn McCoul

People will claim it’s part of “freedom” within the game but where’s my freedom to be able to move from one high sec system to another and not being extorted for ISK?

Both his freighter and Orca probably had zero tank and were fitted with nothing but cargo expanders and/or astronomic mods.