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Dev blog: The Dominix, Work In Progress And A New Art Director

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Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#181 - 2015-06-22 18:16:28 UTC
o7 CCP Huskarl. Thanks for 15 years of great work!

Welcome, CCP Jorg!

As for the designs:

1) Dominix: Perfect. Ship it.
2) Stilletto: Perfect. Ship it.
3) Probe: Meh, but it's covered with the appropriate number of probes. OK.
4) Sabre: Hmm. The current design is beloved and iconic. Of the redesigns, option D evokes the Cyclone, while A and I sort of vaguely suggest the slanted front plates of the Hurricane and the Hel. The other ones look suspiciously like the work of a Caldari spy.

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I voted in CSM X!

stoicfaux
#182 - 2015-06-22 19:56:07 UTC
I like the Dominix. It has that aggressive steampunk/future-retro-tech train engine look to it, but still retains the "old" look of the ship. Kudos.

However, the two antenna on the front? You need to go all the way.

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Solhild
Doomheim
#183 - 2015-06-22 21:53:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Solhild
It seems that thrasher redesign variation B is the best candidate for the new thrasher. Any chance of a render?

I prefer variation F for the Sabre, any chance of a render of that too (in those black textures)?
Catalina Franklin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#184 - 2015-06-23 07:02:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Catalina Franklin
I would just like to say I LOVE the new Dominix design. As someone who was basically pushed down the Gallente Ship line I always loathed some of the ship hulls that I knew I would one day have to pilot. The Dominix was most certainly one of them but over my time playing I have grown fond of it (especially with the recent retexturing). Once I read this blog I instantly got excited that I chose the path/skills that I did when I first started and began thinking of when I would get to use my cool new Dominix.

I also like most of the new redesigns shown later in the blog (noting the Probe and Stiletto). Of course Im seeing quite a bit of backlash regarding the Thrasher but honestly after seeing what has been produced so far I feel confident that between the developers ideas and possible fan made concepts, something truly great will come out of it (remember it's not final people, don't freak out).

Lastly I think its great that new life is being brought to this game. It seems there is always something exciting coming down the pipe.

Edit: If any mod does read this could you clarify if the Dominix remodel will extend to the Sin as well. Because even though I would like to assume that, I would rather get it first had so I'm not disappointed later.
Bentakhar
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#185 - 2015-06-23 09:48:30 UTC
Solhild wrote:
It seems that thrasher redesign variation B is the best candidate for the new thrasher. Any chance of a render?

I prefer variation F for the Sabre, any chance of a render of that too (in those black textures)?



My thoughts aswell ...


As for the 'thumbnail explorations for the thrasher' they're all really really awesome and perhaps you should consider some of those designs for other minmatar ship , like industrials which are starting to show their age.

Also the mining barges could really use a couple more polygons ;) An intricate high tech indurty look would make mining a bit more pleasant because all you do is stare at your ship :) (but NO giant rotating gears!!! this isn't steampunk :p )
Styphon the Black
Forced Euthanasia
#186 - 2015-06-23 16:32:39 UTC
Kind of counter productive to update the Domi's appearance when you have another DEV nerfing the usefulness of drones at the same time.
Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#187 - 2015-06-23 18:24:29 UTC
Dont listen to all the "afraid of change" crowd. Those redesigns look great! I LOVE that stiletto
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
#188 - 2015-06-23 20:31:27 UTC
Alstevar Eastern wrote:
Well, the new Thrasher Redesign WIP is good for a new destroyer but it's definitely not the Thrasher.

You show us the possibility to add some parts on it but it can be better without some others.

Like this : http://i.imgur.com/v2W4Ij4.jpg

You turned it into a boring stick. Minmatar already has a couple of those - Loki and Talwar
Alstevar Eastern
Caldari State
#189 - 2015-06-23 23:39:38 UTC
Unezka Turigahl wrote:
Alstevar Eastern wrote:
Well, the new Thrasher Redesign WIP is good for a new destroyer but it's definitely not the Thrasher.

You show us the possibility to add some parts on it but it can be better without some others.

Like this : http://i.imgur.com/v2W4Ij4.jpg

You turned it into a boring stick. Minmatar already has a couple of those - Loki and Talwar

Sure it's too long like a stick now, it's just to show an other way to have a decent top and remove the "second floor effect".

The Redesign Variation Exploration have some interesting choice too but i think we lost it's current agressive effect on the top for a bunker effect.

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Cleanse Serce
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#190 - 2015-06-24 07:29:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Cleanse Serce
- Dominix = awsome, from my point of view, Gallente ships always had that "cetacean" shape. I'm glad to see a giant whale wether than a giant potatoe. :D

- Slasher hull = it looks more like caldari spirit design. Those 4 wings disappear, why ? This is caracteristic to the ship ! Let them be ! :)

- Probe = ok.

- Thrasher = from my point of view Thrasher always had that "helicopter" shape, tail + big head with gills (solar pannel) on the sides.
As long as you stick to this spirit, i'm all ok.
That extra floor cut that caracteristic shape of the Thrasher, no head would too.
I love the B variance of the exploration designs.
Oliver Delorean
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#191 - 2015-06-24 08:32:20 UTC
Dominix - Nice!
Stilleto - Nice!
Probe - Nice!
Thrasher - I like the main hull but these wings or things*.....
Cerberus - Nice!
Gallente T3 - Nice!
Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
#192 - 2015-06-24 16:41:41 UTC
The new Probe design looks too much like the current rookie Minmatar ship the Reaper. I would prefer you leave that one as it is rather than do that to it.

If the changes are not altered the Dominix is about to get another kicking to its weapon system. So maybe any design work on that ship has been wasted. It sounds like most people will be switching to missiles for long range combat given the proposed changes. Such a shame given that the Dominix wasn't the problem. Sad

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Anika Ataru
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#193 - 2015-06-24 18:42:42 UTC
Why do you even working on the Thrasher, when there are horrific ships in need of radical redesign like Bantam and Bellicose? Thrasher is one of the best looking ships in EVE already, do some minor polish if you must, but please, nothing radical.
Some of those designs are cool, get them ready, just for something else.
Riktung Noban
Clearview Interactions
#194 - 2015-06-25 15:24:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Riktung Noban
Love the new Probe and Stiletto designs! For the Thrasher I would vote for the bottom left of the graphic showing the many variations as I think destroyers should have a clean but tough look to them. The Hekate is a bit bland IMHO. It is definitely very Gallente (wing-ish) but it doesn't have the zing a T3 destroyer should. Currently it looks like someone converted a Nemesis for transport/shuttle duties.

All that said the general improvements to the visuals in game have been fantastic over the past year! Keep it coming and thanks.
Riktung Noban
Clearview Interactions
#195 - 2015-06-25 15:39:09 UTC
Menero Orti wrote:
Yeah the Imicus/Helios REALLY needs a new design Shocked


I used to completely agree with this sentiment. I could never figure out how anyone could come up with these particular designs but having flown the Helios as my primary scouting ship hull I am now intimately a fan. Change the Imicus for variety but the Helios comes under a category similar to the Thrasher as an iconic hull design...for me anyway. Give it a touch of the new technology without a major facelift plz.
coik el tuerto
Farmhouse.
Simple Farmers
#196 - 2015-06-25 16:56:14 UTC
im gona be mad if the SABRE ends up looking like one of those nasty ugly pics! Evil
Solhild
Doomheim
#197 - 2015-06-25 19:46:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Solhild
coik el tuerto wrote:
im gona be mad if the SABRE ends up looking like one of those nasty ugly pics! Evil


Seriously don't agree with ugly, this basic hull with that great detail (although missing the recognisable bow/head) - Variation F from here would be great, especially in core complexions textures!!!

(Regular thrasher is B)
Wylde Kardde
Wrekker Mix
#198 - 2015-06-25 21:40:44 UTC
http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/67315/1/05_THRASHER_CONCEPTS.jpg

OPTION D! over and over !!!!

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Idoru Yoshikawa
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#199 - 2015-06-28 15:22:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Idoru Yoshikawa
Loving the new Stiletto and Probe concepts. I think many Minmatar ships should get reviewed under the perspective of this new paradigm. ie: Rupture hull and it's T2 variants.

Not so sure about the Thrasher redesign, especially the solar panels, they need to be better integrated. although I would love to see more Ideas about a new hull design.

I just hope the get released very soon.

Any word about the Firetail? :D

Great work on the new redesigns!

ADDITION: please, fix the Svipul and Loki textures. They are terrible. Why not apply the same texture style already used in the Huginn or Hound? They are just great. Minmatar ships still look made of plastic instead of metal.
Moac Tor
Cyber Core
Immediate Destruction
#200 - 2015-06-28 21:33:54 UTC
Idoru Yoshikawa wrote:
Any word about the Firetail? :D

I would suggest the firetail is one of the best looking frigates in the game, so not sure it needs any improvement, at least there are plenty of other ships in much dire need of an update. *looks at the cyclone, bellicose, and rupture"