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A warning to multi boxers (who don't use IS boxer) CCP is banning you!

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Dor Cadmon
New Artisian and Mercenary Association
#1 - 2015-06-17 11:05:15 UTC
So we have these insane people in our corp. They mine with like 10 characters at once and they don't use IS boxer. If you don't believe me then don't bother reading the rest.

These guys cause so many problems for us. Managing 10 accounts manually is tough. You do rely on things like fleet warp etc. But these guys are loosing haulers and mining ships and we're always telling them 'one of your toons is got his lasers off'.

We're talking the most non-is boxer non botting crew you can think of. One guy makes a game out of the APM of it all.


Well, I am here to tell you that CCP is starting to ban players who appear to be boxing.

More than one person in our corp was banned yesterday.

Unless I misunderstand the rules CCP has done this in error.

A lot of us have been sitting by watching CCP make their changes to the game in the last few months. CCP has done a lot of things to screw over the little guy actually.....I wont get into it.

But nothing took the wind out of our sails like hearing two of our good friends, who we are on coms with every night, friends who donate time and help in big ways to the little miner, have been screwed royally by CCP for a crime they didnt commit.


tl/dr
CCP is banning non botting multi box players and giving them absoultey 0 recourse for fairness.

There's over 200 people in our corp and 190 of them can attest to the fact if these guys are isboxing they are the worst is boxers ever.


hey CCP guess what -- you are wrong and you continue to dig yourselves into a hole by alienating the people you once called customers. Jump drive changes, Fozzie Sov changes and now banning innocent miners...In the last 18 months each and every decision you've made has screwed over the 100-300 member corps trying to provide gaming communities for their memebers.


CCP fix your anti botting code or clarify that you dont want players manually controlling more than x accounts.


signed you SUCK
Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#2 - 2015-06-17 11:13:51 UTC
You're not warning anybody. Your tone and the general setup of your post clearly make this a rant.

Thats lying. Pls change the title and be honest.
Dor Cadmon
New Artisian and Mercenary Association
#3 - 2015-06-17 11:17:32 UTC
troll.

The point of the message remains and yes i am pissed off. What do you want? A Friendly reminder that CCP is acting like douchebags on this issue?

Funny how mining fleets get reported as botters but the guy botting 4 tengus night after night doesn't get called out.


Mad at someone in eve? Report them as a botter and get CCP doing your pvp for you.

GankYou
9B30FF Labs
#4 - 2015-06-17 11:19:50 UTC
Dor Cadmon wrote:
tl/dr
There's over 200 people in our corp and 190 of them can attest to the fact if these guys are isboxing they are the worst is boxers ever


So you're unsure whether that is the case or not. Smile
Candi LeMew
Division 13
#5 - 2015-06-17 11:20:24 UTC
I'm sorry to hear about your friends.

Hopefully they can follow the proper channels for review/appeal and have a positive outcome.

Otherwise I foresee the lock through these goggles, good sir.

🍌

Remember... in Anoikis Bob Is Always Watching...

"I been kicked out of better homes than this" - Rick James

Xtreem
Knockaround Guys Inc.
#6 - 2015-06-17 11:20:51 UTC
Are you sure they are manual? I am only asking as I am sure CCP can check when commands were issued or at least received by the server with ten accounts for example you would have a few seconds delay in each command having to click from one to the other, while ccp can be aa little heavy at times I am sure they checked this basic thing and thus legitimately banned them?
Dor Cadmon
New Artisian and Mercenary Association
#7 - 2015-06-17 11:23:49 UTC
Xtreem wrote:
Are you sure they are manual? I am only asking as I am sure CCP can check when commands were issued or at least received by the server with ten accounts for example you would have a few seconds delay in each command having to click from one to the other, while ccp can be aa little heavy at times I am sure they checked this basic thing and thus legitimately banned them?


Sir, i know we are just on forums and stuff but I swear on my pimp fitted Velator that I wouldnt be here if i thought there was any chance they were broadcasting.

If I thought there was a chance these guys would get a fair shake I'd leave them to just their own recourse through official channels.


This matter needs to be discussed because now a bunch of corp members are actually afraid to play their (manual) game....im not kidding. CCP has made a mistake here and this needs to be brought to light.
Zealous Miner
Doomheim
#8 - 2015-06-17 11:26:17 UTC
Dor Cadmon wrote:
A lot of us have been sitting by watching CCP make their changes to the game in the last few months. CCP has done a lot of things to screw over the little guy actually.....I wont get into it.

Well, I will.

How exactly is someone multi-boxing 10 miners "the little guy"?

Fedo. Fedo? Fedo!

Pixie Tickle
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2015-06-17 11:28:21 UTC
Ya should consider that they're not telling you the truth. It might be a hard pill to swallow but unless ya sit right next to em ya can't possibly tell if they're doing bad things they shouldn't do. And that's the crux of the matter. Ya CAN NOT tell if they are telling the truth unless ya sit right next to em!
Dor Cadmon
New Artisian and Mercenary Association
#10 - 2015-06-17 11:29:00 UTC
More trolling and deraling but fine.

The little guy here is the shaved ape who worked his day and just wants to jump on coms with his friends.

Jump drive changes killed the buyback program of the smaller miner corps.

Fozzie sov killed renter space - fine, we adapted.

You want to catch me on semantics fine.....but the issue here is multi boxing, non broadcasting , non isboxer players are being banned.


And those people are the ones who work an honest day and just want to help some friends for a few hours. Go ahead and judge the multi account thing but is it or is it not against the TOS to use these accounts manually.

Dor Cadmon
New Artisian and Mercenary Association
#11 - 2015-06-17 11:30:23 UTC
Pixie Tickle wrote:
Ya should consider that they're not telling you the truth. It might be a hard pill to swallow but unless ya sit right next to em ya can't possibly tell if they're doing bad things they shouldn't do. And that's the crux of the matter. Ya CAN NOT tell if they are telling the truth unless ya sit right next to em!




and you should consider the fact that I am telling the truth. These guys are in the processing capturing their game play style just to prove you naysayers wrong.
GankYou
9B30FF Labs
#12 - 2015-06-17 11:31:40 UTC
Dor Cadmon wrote:

Fozzie sov killed renter space - fine, we adapted.


Still to come in July. Smile
Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#13 - 2015-06-17 11:34:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Yarda Black
Since you went ahead and insulted CCP Falcon in his own thread, I'm sure your corpies will be very grateful with your assistance in getting them unbanned.

Small edit: I've grabbed some popcorn if anyone is interested
Dor Cadmon
New Artisian and Mercenary Association
#14 - 2015-06-17 11:35:10 UTC
GankYou wrote:
Dor Cadmon wrote:

Fozzie sov killed renter space - fine, we adapted.


Still to come in July. Smile



already killed it though.

Lisa Gentilette
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-06-17 11:35:50 UTC
The only proof we have that your friends are not multi boxing is your word. The only proof you have your friends are not multi boxing is their word.


Anyway, ranting, posting in the wrong thread + redundant (see top sticky), discussing bans, going through the wrong channel (we cannot in anyway help, a petition would be the right course), I wonder how long it takes for this to be locked. Pirate
GankYou
9B30FF Labs
#16 - 2015-06-17 11:36:18 UTC
Dor Cadmon wrote:
GankYou wrote:
Dor Cadmon wrote:

Fozzie sov killed renter space - fine, we adapted.


Still to come in July. Smile



already killed it though.



Fun is yet to come. Big smile
Dor Cadmon
New Artisian and Mercenary Association
#17 - 2015-06-17 11:36:43 UTC
Lisa Gentilette wrote:
The only proof we have that your friends are not multi boxing is your word. The only proof you have your friends are not multi boxing is their word.


Anyway, ranting, posting in the wrong thread + redundant (see top sticky), discussing bans, going through the wrong channel (we cannot in anyway help, a petition would be the right course), I wonder how long it takes for this to be locked. Pirate



not looking to prove it here, are you insane? I'm just bringing the issue to light.
Pixie Tickle
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2015-06-17 11:42:38 UTC
Dor Cadmon wrote:
Pixie Tickle wrote:
Ya should consider that they're not telling you the truth. It might be a hard pill to swallow but unless ya sit right next to em ya can't possibly tell if they're doing bad things they shouldn't do. And that's the crux of the matter. Ya CAN NOT tell if they are telling the truth unless ya sit right next to em!




and you should consider the fact that I am telling the truth. These guys are in the processing capturing their game play style just to prove you naysayers wrong.

So they twitch when they don't run illegal software. If that's what ya meant with "capturing". And it's damn easy to make deliberate mistakes in the game to make it look like they're legit. You have NO PROOF man, get it into ya head! It's so easy to fake cluelessness and mistakes!

"OMG WHY AM I SHOOTING YA I DONT WANNA HOW CAN I TURN IT OFF" said the awoxing corpmate laughing his ass off as he shoots ya blingship.
Sturmwolke
#19 - 2015-06-17 11:51:14 UTC
Dor Cadmon wrote:

Sir, i know we are just on forums and stuff but I swear on my pimp fitted Velator that I wouldnt be here if i thought there was any chance they were broadcasting.

Post the Velator fit please.

Drago Shouna
Doomheim
#20 - 2015-06-17 11:56:14 UTC
They manually control 10 miners?

What ships do they use?

I have all on sometimes keeping up with an Orca/Hulk/Hulk setup, between D Scan, emptying the mtu etc and then keeping an eye on the survey scanner so that I don't waste most of a cycle on each Hulk..

It keeps you busy, someone doing it with 10? I don't believe they could do it without some outside help. I never will.

Solecist Project...." They refuse to play by the rules and laws of the game and use it as excuse ..." " They don't care about how you play as long as they get to play how they want."

Welcome to EVE.

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