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[Duality] Sovereignty Playtest Competition

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DNLeviathan
Blue Canary
Watch This
#221 - 2015-06-22 11:13:13 UTC
someone lend me a titan for this contest please? the lols will be epic and the drama supreme....... (im being serious, can i borrow a titan?)
Ruune en Gravonere
Running with Dogs
Out of the Blue.
#222 - 2015-06-22 11:30:25 UTC
I know we need to stay on topic but its interesting that Brave are not complaining about the sov mechanic so much as how they are coping with it... I have to say the first couple of days we got hammered by Brave who were more than happy to drop big shiny expensive **** on us in an attempt to take our station.... numbers will be critical in both attacking and defending under the new sov or should I say well organised and focused numbers in specialised ships with support...

As for Brave needing to reach out and form 'coalitions' with all the other big players on duality well just how big do you need to be to survive and thrive under the new sov system? We've formed a couple of strategic partnerships with like minded allies rather than try to blue everyone because we like to PvP but we know the value in mutual support and how important it is to have friends you can 'trust' in this 'game'
Dorijan
W-Space IT Department
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#223 - 2015-06-22 11:48:09 UTC
Ruune en Gravonere wrote:
I know we need to stay on topic but its interesting that Brave are not complaining about the sov mechanic so much as how they are coping with it... I have to say the first couple of days we got hammered by Brave who were more than happy to drop big shiny expensive **** on us in an attempt to take our station.... numbers will be critical in both attacking and defending under the new sov or should I say well organised and focused numbers in specialised ships with support...

As for Brave needing to reach out and form 'coalitions' with all the other big players on duality well just how big do you need to be to survive and thrive under the new sov system? We've formed a couple of strategic partnerships with like minded allies rather than try to blue everyone because we like to PvP but we know the value in mutual support and how important it is to have friends you can 'trust' in this 'game'



Out of curiosity, how many people do you have testing on Duality and how many BRAVE nerds showed up at your doorstep? Kinda interested in the numbers that made you form strategic partnerships.
Ryno Caval
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#224 - 2015-06-22 12:14:55 UTC
Dorijan wrote:



Out of curiosity, how many people do you have testing on Duality and how many BRAVE nerds showed up at your doorstep? Kinda interested in the numbers that made you form strategic partnerships.




SPAI!!!!!
CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#225 - 2015-06-22 12:18:04 UTC
Latest set of timers:
Exit Time    Solar System    Structure    Owning Alliance    Defense Multiplier
Ongoing    YWS0-Z    IHub    Brave Collective    5.6
Ongoing    YWS0-Z    TCU    Brave Collective    5.6
Ongoing    5KG-PY    Station Freeport    Freeport    1
Ongoing    AY-24I    IHub    Q Alliance    4.3
Ongoing    I7S-1S    Station Freeport    Freeport    1
Ongoing    ZQ-Z3Y    Station Freeport    Freeport    1
2015.06.22 15:11    2V-CS5    Station Freeport    Freeport    1
2015.06.22 15:35    H9-J8N    Station Freeport    Freeport    1
2015.06.22 17:05    D-6WS1    Station    Fidelas Constans    4.1
2015.06.22 17:11    J6QB-P    Station Freeport    Freeport    1
2015.06.22 22:51    C1-HAB    Station Freeport    Freeport    1
2015.06.23 00:36    AY-24I    Station    Q Alliance    4.3
2015.06.23 00:41    YQB-22    Station    Brave Collective    4.3
2015.06.23 00:47    AY-24I    TCU    Q Alliance    4.3
2015.06.23 01:12    18XA-C    TCU    I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth    4.2
2015.06.23 01:29    TXJ-II    Station Freeport    Freeport    1
2015.06.23 02:25    TA3T-3    TCU    Brave Collective    2.7
2015.06.23 02:49    TA3T-3    IHub    Brave Collective    2.7
2015.06.23 03:30    9UY4-H    IHub    Brave Collective    6
2015.06.23 07:15    3GXF-U    IHub    Fidelas Constans    4.5
2015.06.23 07:50    GA9P-0    Station Freeport    Freeport    1
2015.06.23 08:06    QBL-BV    Station Freeport    Freeport    1
2015.06.23 09:29    YWS0-Z    Station Freeport    Freeport    1
2015.06.23 10:33    FX-7EM    IHub    Eastasia Alliance    6
2015.06.23 10:33    FX-7EM    Station    Eastasia Alliance    6
2015.06.23 10:33    FX-7EM    TCU    Eastasia Alliance    6
2015.06.23 11:02    18-GZM    TCU    Affirmative.    4.7
2015.06.23 11:10    1-1I53    IHub    Affirmative.    6
2015.06.23 11:19    18-GZM    IHub    Affirmative.    4.7
2015.06.23 11:27    1-1I53    TCU    Affirmative.    6
2015.06.23 11:29    1-1I53    Station    Affirmative.    6
2015.06.23 12:01    MVCJ-E    IHub    Q Alliance    4.3
2015.06.23 12:12    2-TEGJ    Station    Q Alliance    6

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Ruune en Gravonere
Running with Dogs
Out of the Blue.
#226 - 2015-06-22 13:10:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Ruune en Gravonere
Dorijan wrote:

Out of curiosity, how many people do you have testing on Duality and how many BRAVE nerds showed up at your doorstep? Kinda interested in the numbers that made you form strategic partnerships.


Yeah probably a bit more information than I'm comfortable sharing Lol

But we looked for mutually beneficial partnerships before the fighting started...
Apex Aubaris
Birdsquad
#227 - 2015-06-22 13:14:35 UTC
Ruune en Gravonere wrote:
Dorijan wrote:

Out of curiosity, how many people do you have testing on Duality and how many BRAVE nerds showed up at your doorstep? Kinda interested in the numbers that made you form strategic partnerships.


Yeah probably a bit more information than I'm comfortable sharing Lol

But we looked for mutually beneficial partnerships before the fighting started...


But then again the guy that made the deal with you is in the same corp as Dorijan Big smile
Ruune en Gravonere
Running with Dogs
Out of the Blue.
#228 - 2015-06-22 13:18:52 UTC
Apex Aubaris wrote:
Ruune en Gravonere wrote:
Dorijan wrote:

Out of curiosity, how many people do you have testing on Duality and how many BRAVE nerds showed up at your doorstep? Kinda interested in the numbers that made you form strategic partnerships.


Yeah probably a bit more information than I'm comfortable sharing Lol

But we looked for mutually beneficial partnerships before the fighting started...


But then again the guy that made the deal with you is in the same corp as Dorijan Big smile




I'm just trying to aid your internal comms processes P
Ryno Caval
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#229 - 2015-06-22 13:43:33 UTC
Ruune en Gravonere wrote:
Apex Aubaris wrote:
Ruune en Gravonere wrote:
Dorijan wrote:

Out of curiosity, how many people do you have testing on Duality and how many BRAVE nerds showed up at your doorstep? Kinda interested in the numbers that made you form strategic partnerships.


Yeah probably a bit more information than I'm comfortable sharing Lol

But we looked for mutually beneficial partnerships before the fighting started...


But then again the guy that made the deal with you is in the same corp as Dorijan Big smile




I'm just trying to aid your internal comms processes P


Its a spy spying on a spy that's spying on spy spying on a dream

Spyception
Ryno Caval
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#230 - 2015-06-22 13:46:39 UTC
Ok I'm done putting my filth on the forum I have a serious idea about the UI for capping SOV with Entosis would it be possible to use a shape other than a circle if there is not going to be a numerical system or percentage system, specifically a dodecagon because it is much easier to say what fraction of 12 you have done then trying to eyeball about where around the circle you are.

Base 12 is superior to base 10
Caldari 5
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S
Affirmative.
#231 - 2015-06-22 13:56:04 UTC
The biggest issue that I'm having at the moment is telling what is happening on a Constellation/Region level, the old system this was actually fairly easy to tell. Open the Sov window, and click on the constellation tab, and everything in a nice neat table.

The other thing that has been bugging me is the inability to tell WHO has sov on the system that I'm currently in, the usual location for this information, has the 3 Sov identifiers, but this really sucks when they all have the Default Alliance Icon, you can't tell at a glance which alliance it is, can we have this information in text please?
Parley Queen
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#232 - 2015-06-22 14:54:40 UTC
Ryno Caval wrote:
Ok I'm done putting my filth on the forum I have a serious idea about the UI for capping SOV with Entosis would it be possible to use a shape other than a circle if there is not going to be a numerical system or percentage system, specifically a dodecagon because it is much easier to say what fraction of 12 you have done then trying to eyeball about where around the circle you are.

Base 12 is superior to base 10
Are you sure you understand radix? Because how you wrote that I cant see how people would be better off if you only had to capture (84)base12 instead of (100)base10. I think you mean highly composite numbers?

I understand what you are saying and agree that a hexagonal shape is easier and more accurate than eyeballing the progress on a circle. Dodecagons are nice but they bring more resolution than needed.


"FC I am 1/12 in my cycle" = "I just started"
"FC I am 4/12 finished here" = "Im a 30% done"
"FC I am 11/12 done" = "Im almost done"
SilentAsTheGrave
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#233 - 2015-06-22 16:59:27 UTC
What is the estimated presence of players in a system when looking at the defensive multipliers?

Notifications being game wide feels a bit too much. Is there a slider in place to lower this to region, constellation or even system wide instead?

As others have said, there should be a way to easily see how long it will take to attack and defend the things we Entosis. The UI icon or even the health bar on it changing should give an indication. In minutes and seconds. Or a percentage complete.
Gabriel Karade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#234 - 2015-06-22 20:09:30 UTC
Liking the clearer UI (in terms of vulnerability) from the patch.

I know it's only Monday. but any word on the Ihub thing (upgrades?) Blink


P.s I've playing since Feb 2004, and this is the first time I've actually started to "get into" sov, apart from one minor incident on TQ, in Tenerifis....

(i.e. that's a +1 on what you're doing, from a crusty old fart... Lol)

War Machine: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=386293
Gabriel Karade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#235 - 2015-06-22 20:15:19 UTC
This may be a stupid question (apologies if so...) - can you remove one of your own TCU's? (i.e. to be able to drop another)

War Machine: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=386293
Ruune en Gravonere
Running with Dogs
Out of the Blue.
#236 - 2015-06-22 21:20:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Ruune en Gravonere
I have a suggestion about the degrading defence bonus's... there is no way we are going to put time and effort into mining and ratting on duality while our priority is to do it on TQ for obvious reasons... but this just means our window of vulnerability will just get wider and wider.. which is unrealistic...

If you lose sov and the strategic index is reset then so be it... but if you are successfully holding on its too big an ask to also practically live on Duality to keep everything ticking over...

So is there any chance they can be 'frozen'?

Edit: this is a test of the sov mechanics after all not an opportunity to 'play house'
Dreamer Targaryen
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#237 - 2015-06-22 22:03:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Dreamer Targaryen
The system "YWS0-Z" is somehow bugged:
- When you are in the system, you are unable to see the HUD (systeminfo, route, opportunities)
- The status was: freeported station, brave ihub, no tcu.
- After putting up a tcu and activating my entosis-module on it, I went through the warmup-cycle, then the 10min capture-time (white arrow-circle) and after that nothing happened. The tcu seems to be still owned by Concorde and my module is still cycling without doing anything. (De-activating and re-trying to entosify it had no effect either.)
- The sovereign-tab of the system is blank.
Gabriel Karade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#238 - 2015-06-22 22:38:10 UTC
Quote:
[ 2015.06.22 21:47:18 ] Kaphrah > http://s7.directupload.net/images/140719/72o3mnuz.jpg rekt


Quote:
Kaphrah > =localsvc:service=publicQaToolsClient&method=MoveMeTo&destination=amarr>http://s7.directupload.net/images/140719/72o3mnuz.jpg rekt
This sort of behaviour is douche baggery on the test server to say the least..... we're all here to test the new system and find bugs, not have some nobba doing this.

War Machine: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=386293
SilentAsTheGrave
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#239 - 2015-06-22 23:37:10 UTC
Gabriel Karade wrote:
Quote:
[ 2015.06.22 21:47:18 ] Kaphrah > http://s7.directupload.net/images/140719/72o3mnuz.jpg rekt


Quote:
Kaphrah > =localsvc:service=publicQaToolsClient&method=MoveMeTo&destination=amarr>http://s7.directupload.net/images/140719/72o3mnuz.jpg rekt
This sort of behaviour is douche baggery on the test server to say the least..... we're all here to test the new system and find bugs, not have some nobba doing this.

We have been reporting that person as well as others doing that. There is also those who have been buying up all the strontium and Entosis links. I added them to my address book and as of last night they were still doing these things against the rules. I don't know why they have not been banned yet.
CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#240 - 2015-06-23 00:07:53 UTC
Latest timers:
Exit Time    Solar System    Structure    Owning Alliance    Defense Multiplier
2015.06.23 00:36    AY-24I    Station    Q Alliance    4.3
2015.06.23 00:41    YQB-22    Station    Brave Collective    4.3
2015.06.23 00:47    AY-24I    TCU    Q Alliance    4.3
2015.06.23 01:12    18XA-C    TCU    I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth    4.2
2015.06.23 01:29    TXJ-II    Station Freeport    Freeport    1
2015.06.23 02:25    TA3T-3    TCU    Brave Collective    2.7
2015.06.23 02:49    TA3T-3    IHub    Brave Collective    2.7
2015.06.23 03:30    9UY4-H    IHub    Brave Collective    6
2015.06.23 07:15    3GXF-U    IHub    Fidelas Constans    4.5
2015.06.23 07:50    GA9P-0    Station Freeport    Freeport    1
2015.06.23 08:06    QBL-BV    Station Freeport    Freeport    1
2015.06.23 09:29    YWS0-Z    Station Freeport    Freeport    1
2015.06.23 10:33    FX-7EM    IHub    Eastasia Alliance    6
2015.06.23 10:33    FX-7EM    Station    Eastasia Alliance    6
2015.06.23 10:33    FX-7EM    TCU    Eastasia Alliance    6
2015.06.23 11:02    18-GZM    TCU    Affirmative.    4.7
2015.06.23 11:10    1-1I53    IHub    Affirmative.    6
2015.06.23 11:19    18-GZM    IHub    Affirmative.    4.7
2015.06.23 11:27    1-1I53    TCU    Affirmative.    6
2015.06.23 11:29    1-1I53    Station    Affirmative.    6
2015.06.23 12:01    MVCJ-E    IHub    Q Alliance    4.3
2015.06.23 12:12    2-TEGJ    Station    Q Alliance    6
2015.06.23 12:47    2-TEGJ    TCU    Q Alliance    6
2015.06.23 13:07    BK4-YC    TCU    Q Alliance    6
2015.06.23 13:18    2-TEGJ    IHub    Q Alliance    6
2015.06.23 15:15    BK4-YC    Station    Q Alliance    6
2015.06.23 15:26    3GXF-U    Station    Suddenly Spaceships.    4.5
2015.06.23 15:39    BK4-YC    IHub    Q Alliance    6
2015.06.23 16:41    D-GTMI    IHub    Pandemic Legion    1
2015.06.23 18:12    7MD-S1    TCU    Praetorian Directorate    4.7
2015.06.23 18:15    7MD-S1    IHub    Praetorian Directorate    4.7
2015.06.23 18:22    7MD-S1    Station    Praetorian Directorate    4.7
2015.06.23 18:28    S25C-K    IHub    Praetorian Directorate    4.9
2015.06.23 18:31    ERVK-P    TCU    Praetorian Directorate    5.3
2015.06.23 18:54    D-GTMI    TCU    Pandemic Legion    1.6
2015.06.23 19:00    D-GTMI    Station    Pandemic Legion    1.6
2015.06.23 19:50    T-RPFU    Station    Pandemic Legion    3.7
2015.06.23 19:51    T-RPFU    TCU    Pandemic Legion    3.7
2015.06.23 19:56    T-RPFU    IHub    Pandemic Legion    3.7
2015.06.23 20:03    UL-7I8    IHub    Pandemic Legion    4.8
2015.06.23 20:19    D-6WS1    Station    Fidelas Constans    3
2015.06.23 20:23    8P9-BM    TCU    Suddenly Spaceships.    4.8
2015.06.23 20:23    8P9-BM    IHub    Suddenly Spaceships.    4.8
2015.06.23 20:26    D-6WS1    TCU    Fidelas Constans    3
2015.06.23 21:01    D-6WS1    IHub    Fidelas Constans    3
2015.06.23 21:12    VKI-T7    Station    Suddenly Spaceships.    3.7
2015.06.23 21:19    8P9-BM    Station    Suddenly Spaceships.    4.8
2015.06.23 21:56    3GXF-U    TCU    Suddenly Spaceships.    3.5
2015.06.23 22:06    H-GKI6    Station    Suddenly Spaceships.    4.4
2015.06.23 22:11    49GC-R    Station    Brave Collective    2
2015.06.23 22:12    H-GKI6    TCU    Suddenly Spaceships.    4.4
2015.06.23 23:01    49GC-R    TCU    Brave Collective    2
2015.06.23 23:07    49GC-R    IHub    Brave Collective    2
2015.06.23 23:22    F-YH5B    Station    Suddenly Spaceships.    6
2015.06.23 23:39    XHQ-7V    Station    Spectre Fleet Alliance    5.2

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