Warfare & Tactics

Cases where multiple people play EvE on the same machine in the same household would be my first conclusion.

I don't like the idea of alts in this game because I feel it contradicts the motifs of accountability and risk-reward. Not just when it comes to boosters either. Want to gank, spy, scout, steal from a corp, or just generally be a douche? Get a burner alt and do all those things while still keeping your main's space honor clean and intact.

That being said, CCP has already made their stance on this clear. Alts and the "content" they create are here to stay. Besides, banning the use of concurrent alts through IP or machine locks would probably be financial suicide at this point. Those of us who refuse to shell out an extra PLEX will just have to suck it up. Or petition.

Anyway, with regards to links, I agree with them being shown on killmails. I also like the idea to include any logi contributing to the fight on there as well. Better yet, do a complete overhaul of the killmail system so it provides an "after action report" that I can learn from instead of being a useless copy/paste of my fitting window with a "who shot me?" column.

There is no grey area, input duplication is banned, manual multiboxing is not.

Same way here. And there is a dropdown in the launcher.

Anything ccp sees from your computer can be changed. Using mac address would do nothing for people running multiple machines on proxies. Connecting per ip restriction would be stupid since families can share an ip. It can't be stopped so they don't bother with it.

What's interesting about Crosi and his point of view is that input duplicating is not different from having highly organized fleets. Why is one banned and the other not?

Hmmmm.

But the effect is the same? I can have my fleet of thrashers shoot all arty once and alpha someone. Or I can multi box and do a fleet myself. And to begin with all duplicated inputs originated from a person, it's not like they are botting. What's the difference?

This is your own argument. Interesting how it only makes sense when it suits you.

If I multibox several thrashers I can have them all firing at once up to a point, which I don't think anyone would have enough accounts to reach those numbers. All you have to do press f1. Furthermore, I can have auto hot key do stuff on one account that multiple accounts controlled by me couldn't do. That argument doesn't hold up at all.

So in the end all you're left with is that you think ccp is wrong on some issues which gets nobody anywhere other than voicing an opinion. Not that you're right and everyone else is wrong or vice versa. Which is interesting since just a few minutes ago you were going on about how the game was clearly designed one way and that's how it should be played.

So you don't really care if the entire game thinks you're an annoying useless **** who only degrades the gameplay of eve as long as ccp says it's ok?

The point of this tangential debate is to show that eve has allowed a p2w mechanic in the form of alt links. Now we've seen that ccp does in fact ban people for abusing multi boxing for an unfair advantage, extend that logic, if your mind can allow it, to links and regular alts. Explain to everyone how the advantage you gain from one links alt is less than the advantage I can gain by duplicating input over three accounts.

You can try to deflect this issue for weeks or you can concede that you are paying money for a combat advantage.

Mining isn't the type of task that requires input duplication to move things along dude. And one of the guys that got banned never mined a single mineral in his life.

In guessing you didn't even bother to think about this one at all.

Prove that's what people were doing with ISBOXER and I'll care. Like I already told you ISBOXER doesn't make mining any different, mining requires you to push one button every ten minutes or something, ISBOXER wouldn't make **** of a difference.

Sorry that your points don't make any sense, but that isn't my problem, it's yours.