EVE General Discussion

Sure there is because your neutral example is wrong based on a whole host of things associated with what makes up the data you are using and lack of accounting for differences in risk management required to operate and travel successfully in nullsec versus highsec.

However, my opinion is no more valid than yours, so the best way to know is to go test that specific neutral example and see whether it is true.

So lets go test it. The offer is totally genuine and open.

Concord has always been reactionary, the reason there are so many ship kills in high sec is because most high-sec players don't want to get blapped by concord for initiating illegal high sec combat. So they do not pre-empt a gank attempt and fire first and presume most people in high-sec feel the same, he wont fire on me because concord will nuke his arse etc etc. This thinking is seriously flawed, concord in our opinion holds high-sec back and should be removed from the game.

We also feel you should be able to fly any ship in any kind of space. The reason null in our opinion has less combat is because of the massive blobs from the major alliances that hold sway over a large part of the game, diplomacy intrigue and the red vs blue has been the agenda for over 10yr now. We smile wryly when thinking about the new sov changes, we can imagine all the diplo's of all the major alliances having gatherings at Eve meets and discussing what to do next. While the little man that is trying to dodge yet another gank at lets say the Sivala gate or has misunderstood the game mechanics and is autopiloting 10-20 jumps in high-sec, because he thinks I cannot be attacked because concord has his back. Is in our opinion flawed and that is why high-sec is far more dangerous than null.

We have explored every area of Eve and the most dangerous part to navigate has always in our opinion been high-sec.

Kind Regards Rhalina Sedai.

Always mine in Panorad Always.

Depends what part of space. Depends what is in the freighter. Does the high-sec freighter have an active war dec (you know the method for pvp preferred in high-sec)? Does the freighter have access to the null regional intel channel.

Honestly I have an alt who lives in Catch, rats in a Loki. I have an alt that lives in a confessor, has actually not docked in 6 months. Ratting in a very lucrative and upgraded -.9 true sec system in Delve. Neither are blue to anyone. Neither has ever died in their respective parts of space.

The confessor pilot was ganked once on the Amarr undock before undertaking the journey to Delve. The loki pilot lost a hauer bringing more ammo out to Catch, in a low/sec gate camp.

But, once out there, neither see many players. When I do, it kinda wakes me up a bit. My main on the other hand has fun going around in a high-sec merc corp blowing up mission runners and incursion guys who were dumb enough to fleet while at war.

Anyways, the point is, anything can happen anywhere in Eve. But I have taken freighters through low/null before and lived, I have taken them through High sec and died. But none of that has any relation to what we are talking about.

Well I tried. If there isn't the conviction to prove the point, then the whole point can be disgarded.

I am already comfortable that I have a reasonable understanding of which is more dangerous, that being nullsec. Safety is a result of risk management and a lot more risk management is required in nullsec than highsec.

As an example, while running a combat anomoly in highsec, you can do it almost always without local open, with dozens of neutrals in system, without having to carefully watch d-scan, without being aligned out when neutrals are present, without safe spots or other tactical locations and with almost no regard for your own safety except for ensuring you don't die to rats and the rats in highsec are not as difficult as the rats in nullsec.

Go take that same approach in nullsec and you'll die very quickly.

I know.

Quod Errat Demonstratum, carebear.

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It's to see someone who thinks they have a bit of info that supports their world view find out that it doesn't actually support that worldview.

The map doesn't show what KIND of ships blow up. 4 years ago (after a bunch of us asked over and over again) CCP produced a dev blog about the issue. The end result? Man that's a lot of noob Condors.. It totally torpedo'd the crys of "but high sec is where the action is" from people trying to get CCP to change the game to cater to them.

Lets see if CCP will give us this kind of info again, so this generation of high sec BS artists can ignore it like they always do...

Well i would imagine the most common ships being destroyed are as follows:

Dominix
Mining barges
New player frigs
Vexors
some sort of raven
maybe some Ishtars
Rattlesnake

I am sure its something like that today.

Thank you for explaining EVE.

Why is there a need to shift from discussing the topic to discussing the person, with the inevitable response and counter response, further driving discussion away from the point?

The OP invited discussion of the topic. Isn't it possible to just stick to that?

Surely, we can all have discussions of topics without just attacking each other. There's nothing positive to be gained otherwise.

That there's lots of people in highsec and lots of people use gates?