Crime & Punishment

I almost liked a veers post. Then he kept talking...

Damn Eve and it's sandbox nature. This must change!

Hey, I'm in Bad Neighbors.

Despite the name, we actually want you to have fun... We're just guys who play Eve as a hunting game.

When you take a PVE break and start playing pvp, it's like finding out "modern warfare" is embedded in your copy of "candy crush".

I trained several of the senior players in bad neighbors and would happily train you too.

We have some t3, but certainly we're not all t3.

We lose ships routinely and rarely muster more than 3 or 4 pilots for a fight. In fact, we encourage our pilots to take risks and lose ships.

My recommendation is fight. Losing a few imaginary spaceships is no big deal... We're not evil. We're just playing in a way you don't understand yet. My guess is you would like it.

Have fun... And never put up with a corp who tries to prevent it. You paid your subscription... Always do it your way.

Mo

Edit- since I joined bad neighbors I have not yet used logi support.

I'm not saying we will never use it, but I haven't yet even been in fleet with it.

And I've lost ships!

A lot of Highsec PVE'er often come across the notion that Wardeccers have a myriad of alts at their disposal. The truth is most don't. My time in Merc corps I've seen maybe a 7 to 1 ratio for players who have two accounts, and use both in Highsec. Most of those are just scouts. T2 Scanning ships, So out of seven players im the merc corp I was in. Only one had a scout.

I've seen players run with Links/Logi/Combat as well. But those guys are far and few between.

I have seen players who can undock 6 Nestors have all fleet boosts available and undock three Vindi's. However out my time in playing EVE I've only ever met one person who could do that out of the thousands I've interacted with.


If you do encounter a person like it's likely you'll die because your 3 to 1. ****** yeah but most people leave a very easy trail of breadcrumbs to Alts.

Sales Posts, Corp History, The fact they both get kills together a lot. It's very easy to look around and check on who is who and what they can bring.


I'm sure if you did the same to be you find all my alts fairly quickly, and you would know what to bring to deal with me.


But my original point is. Out of the 500 wardecers out there only about 50 of them run multiple logi accounts, Links and a Combat toon at the same time. So treating all wardecers like few is silly when information is so easily obtained.

Not normally being one to directly agree with Veers, with him simply being the other extreme opposite the "Everyone must be forced to die!" crowd, but this is very much the truth of it. If someone has no interest in the "pew pew" variety of PvP, they aren't forced to do that. EVE gives people plenty of options and evasion is simply one of them, and generally the most efficient one for small groups with no space assets and zero interest in shooting people.

Evasion comes in many forms. Like when people play docking games it's fine for them to use to safety of the station. Reforming a corp is only really available to small corps with no assets and it's part of the game. Learn to accept that if you pick a target that small that he's going to use valid mechanics to avoid you, just like the station huggers.

Everything that's done in game will always be a mixture of player skills and mechanics. That you call them theme park is just your personal opinion. It doesn't make them objectively wrong. I'm sure there's loads of things you don't like that others do in many games, so like it or lump it.

Being a "PvE player" in EVE isn't a thing that exists right now. I'm not sure you know what game you're playing.



A dude in your corp instalocked one of my toons who is at war with you on a gate when I was flying a travel fit Tengu. It was an embarrassing gin and tonic filled night for me, and probably a happy night for him.

I'm still grumbling over the new train back up to subsystem 5. And I will drink and eve in smaller ships.

I recently killed a tengu. Was it me? I do take pleasure in killing anything caldari

I heard it's called Eve. Highsec has an active and infallible police force enabling players to pursue PvE activities.

Then we agree, since there is a consequence. A consequence that scales rapidly with the size and complexity of your corp. A 1 man corp has a small amount of isk to pay. A 5 man corp has a small amount of isk and 4 invites. A 10 man corp with industry queues and offices has cancelled jobs, assets to shift out of offices, a small amount of isk to pay and 9 invites. A 20 man corp with jobs, trades, offices and space assets has jobs to cancel, trades to cancel with lost broker fees, assets to shift, space assets to tear down and put back up, a small amount of isk to pay and 19 invites. The bigger and more complex the corp the more significant the consequences and the less viable the option is. Seems legit to me.